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My AQ is due in on Sunday and DG promised on Monday past that I would hear from them by the end of the week. Obviously I haven't, I have called and left a message so hope to hear from them today.

 

My question is this, if I don't hear from them can I get an extension on my AQ or would it have to be filed as per the date on it? Also are the courts even open on a Sunday to take it down in person?

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Hi there,

 

Same thing happened here. Got their offer for the full amount before the AQ needed to be submitted. Sent my acceptance back to them then actually forgot about the AQ submission date!! Can you believe that?!

 

Well, it had well and truly passed by the time I realised, so just chased them up again for the money. Finally got a call back and all the money in my account.

 

So just wrote to the court upon receipt saying this matter has been resolved our of court and asking for the case to be closed.

 

Hope this helps!

 

GTG. x

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Mine was due last Sunday and by the Friday I'd received an offer from DG but not the cheque. I rang the court to request another 2 weeks to allow them to get the money to me without incurring another £100 in court costs, they asked me to put it in writing and fax it to them.

 

In your case, I would do the same thing and also ring or write to DG to tell them that "as a goodwill gesture" you have requested an extra 2 weeks to get the offer and money to you before you continue with the claim.

 

I believe the advice is: don't cancel the case until you have the money in your account.

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I've not even had an offer from DG yet! I have rung the court and they said I can have until 4pm Monday as my submission date is a Sunday. I am now ringing DG every hour to try and get a response from someone!!!!!:mad:

 

I am hoping to recieve a letter from DG tomorrow as on Monday they promised communication by the end of this week.

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Update! Finally spoke to Julie Kyle at DG and she said that the clients are taking along time to repsonf, so that means I wil have to go through the courts. AQ going in on Monday. I did mention that I had been promised a letter by the end of this week.

 

I assume that HSBC are swamped with claims. Oh dear, what a pity, never mind.

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BINGO!!!! Another victory for the consumer! Offer letter recieved this morning!

 

Will send it back today and hope to see the money next week!!:razz:

 

Going to do MCOL for my husbands account today.

 

Thanks so much everyone! I shall continue to refer my friends here.

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outstanding - another one just before the deadline. be sure to ring the courts back on monday and tell them that now you actually have an offer and accepted it and are just awaiting payment - now they will give you an extension. may want it in writing or fax as above post said. they really are cutting it fine - i'm hoping more will come in this morning. saturday was a bumper day last week! hoping for the same.

good job, lexxity, you can relax now - get ready for the next one.

job well done, congratulations!

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A big congratulations!! It spurns me on as I have just declined their first offer to me and have given them till next Weds to settle in full with interest. If not then I guess I'll have to go through what you went through, how nerve-racking. Wish me luck!

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Oh poo I should've waited before sending back my AQ by the look of it. They have sent me an offer which includes £120 of court costs but I have submitted my AQ and now paid another £100 in court fees. (see other thread).

LisaDJ & partner vs HSBC - partial refund £522 of £700.

 

LisaDJ & partner vs HSBC - partial refund £250 of £367 (Oct 06-Jan 07) - account being closed by HSBC :rolleyes:

 

LisaDJ vs HSBC - claiming £1550 up to Sept 06 - result coming soon.

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