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    • My understanding is that they won't provide the name to me whether the investigation is Live or Closed, & I have no legal rep as I didn't have P.I. Cover on my policy, & am intending to claim using OIC.org.uk, but remain completely stuck as they 100% cannot open a claim on the portal without both the Reg. No. & Name of the other driver.  
    • thanks again ftmdave, your words are verey encouraging and i do appreciate them. i have taken about 2 hours to think of a letter to write to the ceo...i will paste it below...also how would i address a ceo? do i just put his name? or put dear sir? do you think its ok?  i would appreciate feedback/input from anybody if anything needs to be added/taken away, removed if incorrect etc. i am writing it on behalf of my friend..she is the named driver  - im the one with the blue badge and owner of the car - just for clarification. thanks in adavance to everyone.       My friend and I are both disabled and have been a victim of disability discrimination on the part of your agents.   I have been incorrectly 'charged' by your agent 'excel parking' for overstaying in your car park, but there was no overstay. The letter I recieved said the duration of stay was 15 minutes but there is a 10 minute grace period and also 5 minutes consideration time, hence there was no duration of stay of 15 minutes.   I would like to take this oppertunity to clarify what happend at your Gravesend store. We are struggling finacially due to the 'cost of living crisis' and not being able to work because we are both disabled, we was attracted to your store for the 10 items for £10 offer. I suffer dyslexia and depression and my friend who I take shopping has a mobility disability. We went to buy some shopping at your Gravesend branch of Iceland on 28th of December 2023, we entered your car park, tried to read and understand the parking signs and realised we had to pay for parking. We then realised we didnt have any change for the parking machine so went back to look for coins in the car and when we couldnt find any we left. As my friend has mobility issues it takes some time for me to help him out of the car, as you probably understand this takes more time than it would a normal able bodied person. As I suffer dyslexia I am sure you'll agree that it took me more time than a normal person to read and understand the large amount of information at the pay & display machine. After this, it took more time than an able bodied person to leave the car park especially as I have to help my friend on his crutches etc get back into the car due to his mobility disability. All this took us 15 minutes.   I was the driver of my friends car and he has a blue badge. He then received a 'notice to keeper' for a 'failure to purchase a parking tariff'. On the letter it asked to name the driver if you wasnt the driver at the time, so as he wasnt the driver he named me. I appealed the charge and told them we are disabled and explained the situation as above. The appeal was denied, and even more so was totally ignored regarding our disabilities and that we take longer than an able bodied person to access the car and read the signs and understand them. As our disabilities were ignored and disregarded for the time taken I believe this is discrimination against us. I cannot afford any unfair charges of this kind as I am severely struggling financially. I cannot work and am a carer for my disabled Son who also has a mental and mobility disability. I obviously do not have any disposable income and am in debt with my bills. So its an absolute impossibility for me to pay this incorrect charge.     After being discriminated by your agent my friend decided to contact 'iceland customer care team' on my behalf and again explained the situation and also sent photos of his disabled blue badge and proof of disability. He asked the care team to cancel the charge as ultimately its Iceland's land/property and you have the power over excel parking to cancel it. Again we was met with no mention or consideration for our disability and no direct response regarding the cancellation, all we was told was to contact excel parking. He has replied over 20 times to try to get the 'care team' to understand and cancel this but its pointless as we are just ignored every time. I believe that Ignoring our disability is discrimination which is why I am now contacting you.     I have noticed on your website that you are 'acting' to ease the 'cost of living crisis' : https://about.iceland.co.uk/2022/04/05/iceland-acts-to-ease-the-cost-of-living-crisis/   If you really are commited to helping people in this time of crisis ..and especially two struggling disabled people, can you please cancel this charge as it will only cause more damage to our mental health if you do not.  
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UKCPS - NO STOPPING PARKING CHARGE - Gateway House Picadilly Manchester Stay City Aparthotels


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Following my sat nav I entered the road leading to the car park.

I reached a dead end and was unsure of where my allocated parking was.

I did a u- turn checked my phone and realised where the staycity aparthotels carpark was.

I am a Londoner and was completely confused as there was another parking area in this compound.

I had pre booked my parking starting from 3pm for 24 hours please see my receipt.

I arrived in the car park at around 545pm.

UKCPS sent me a reminder letter which I just opened saying I owe £130.

The picture on the charge are 1 minute apart.

There were no signs of no stopping where I was, no markings on the floor.

I had every right to be there. 

If I entered the wrong car park I could have been charged so I had to make sure. 

please what do I do this is the first letter I’ve received, its not even in my name its addressed to the registered keeper.

I’m scared as I do not want my credit profile to be affected.

They said the registered keeper cannot appeal due to 21 days lapsing. 

can YourParkingSpace Help me as I booked with them? 

should I appeal?

should I contact UKCPS to inform them I was the driver? And I didn’t receive their initial letter?

please help me this is affecting my mental health. 

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  • PEACEKING changed the title to UKCPS - NO STOPPING PARKING CHARGE - Gateway House Picadilly Manchester Stay City Aparthotels

Hi Peaceking and welcome to CAG.

It's a rather confused explanation you're giving us.

You've received a letter that's not actually addressed to you??

Could you please upload the letter you've got and we'll take it from there.

We could do with some help from you.

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Ok Peaceking,

Our usual advice is to ignore anything else they send UNLESS it's a letter of/before claim.

We've around 30 of these cases on the forum and UKCPS have never had the courage to take it to court yet...

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/search/?&q="Gateway House"&type=forums_topic&quick=1&nodes=65&search_and_or=or&sortby=relevancy

In your case it's doubly important not to appeal. You could lose useful legal protection under POFA2012 legislation.

Basically, UKCPS should sue the driver. If they don't know who was driving, they can transfer liability to the keeper (Dad), IF they get everything right paperwork wise.

You're probably going to have to explain this to Dad. No response to UKCPS whatsoever, unless a letter of claim arrives (unlikely).

We could do with some help from you.

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If you do a search on the forum you'll see we have about 100,000 threads for this site.

In not one case have UKCPS have the guts to do court.

Your credit file can't be affected unless UKCPS take you to court, then win the court case and after you defy the court and don't pay so get a CCJ.  None of that is going to happen.

EDIT: just seen Nick has already explained all this.  Anyway, he 's right!

We could do with some help from you.

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If the PCN reminder is the only one your father has received it would be best to get him to send an sar to UKCPS so that you can get the original PCN. That is the important one since if they don't get the wording right they cannot transfer the charge from the driver to the keeper. 

This would be the best outcome for the two of you. they cannot pursue your Father and they do not know your name and address. Happy days.

How likely is it that they have got it wrong?

The Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4 [which governs the private parking companies ] has only been in force for about 12 years so you would have thought that they could have managed to get the wording right by now.  You would be wrong.

Time and again we see constant examples of PCNs that do not comply with the Act so the keeper is no longer liable to pay  which is why we advise motorists not to appeal.

It is all too easy to reveal that the keeper was also the driver and once the parking rogues know who the driver is they can then take them to Court. 

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  • 3 weeks later...

pdf sorted and back up.

if you'd been reading up in the last 3weeks instead of just disappearing ......

you would have already known that a DCA can do nothing on ANY debt, no matter what its TYPE. and to await and see if you ever get a letter of claim. till then sit on yours hands.

A DCA is NOT a bailiff 

and have ZERO legal powers.

dx

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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As your first PCN was a Notice to Driver which would have been followed by a Notice to keeper over a month later [even though it may only state Parking Charge notice] it is even more necessary to send PE an SAR.

If either document fails to comply with the Protection of Freedoms Act  2012 Schedule 4 then both you and your father are in the clear.

So you do not need to worry about is any paperwork from unregulated debt collectors and fifth rate solicitors.

The only thing to look out for is a Letter of Claim and all you have to do is respond with a snotty letter back to them .

 

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Just to check.  Is there an obvious reason why your father didn't get the original letter?  Has he moved recently?

We could do with some help from you.

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