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    • Few tweaks as the run order was completely messed up and the main point of your defence (reconstituted agreement) pushed to the bottom of the statement.   I, XXXXXX, being the Defendant in this case will state as follows; I make this Witness Statement in support of my defence in this claim and further to my set aside application dated 1 November 2022. 1.The claimants witness statement confirms that it mostly relies on hearsay evidence as confirmed by the drafts in person in the opening paragraph. It is my understanding they must serve notice to any hearsay evidence pursuant to CPR 33.2(1)(B) (notice of intention to rely on hearsay evidence) and Section 2 (1) (A) of the Civil Evidence Act. 2.  I understand that the claimant is an Assignee, a buyer of defunct or bad debts, which are bought on mass portfolios at a much reduced cost to the amount claimed and which the original creditors have already wrote off as a capital loss and claimed against taxable income as confirmed in the claimants witness statement exhibit by way of the Deed of Assignment. 3. As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights.  This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information).  The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 4.  I became aware of original Judgement following a routine credit check on or around 14th September 2020. 5. The alleged letter of claim dated 7 January 2020 was served to a previous address which I moved out of in 2018, no effort was made to ascertain my correct address.  I have attached a copy of my tenancy agreement which is marked ‘Appendix 1’ and shows I was residing at a difference address as of 11 December 2018 and was therefore not at the service address at the time the proceedings were served.  I have also attached an email from my solicitors to the Claimants solicitors dated 14 July 2022 which was sent to them requesting that they disclose the trace of evidence they utilised prior to issuing the proceedings against me.  This is marked ‘Appendix 2’. The claimants solicitors did not provide me with these documents. 6. Under The Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims 2017 a Debt Buyer must undertake all reasonable enquiries to ensure the correct address of a debtor, this can be as simple as a credit file search. The Claimant failed to carry out such basic checks. Subsequently all letters prior to and including ,The Pre action Protocol letter of claim dated 7 January 2020 and the claim form dated 14th February 2020 were all served to a previous address which I moved out of in 2018. 7. Upon the discovery of the Judgement debt, I made immediate contact with the Court and the Claimant Solicitors, putting them on notice that I was making investigations in relation to the Judgement debt as it was not familiar to me.  I asked them to provide me with a copy of the original loan agreement but this was not provided to me.   The correspondence to the Claimant Solicitor's is attached and marked ‘Appendix 3’ 8. On (insert date) I successfully made application to set a side the judgment. The claim proceeded to allocation, 9. The claimant failed to comply with the additional directions ordered by District Judge Davis on the 2 February 2024 'The Claim shall be automatically struck out at 4pm on 3 April 2024 unless the Claimant delivers to the Court and to the Defendant the following documents.' None of these documents were received by the court nor the defendant by that date. (insert date you did receive the documents) I then sent a Data Subject Access Request to Barclays but no agreement was provided. Details the timeline of communication between myself and Barclays are attached and marked ‘Appendix 4’and the copies of correspondence between myself and Barclays are attached and marked ‘Appendix 5’. Remove irrelevant 10.The claimant relies upon and has exhibited a reconstituted version of the alleged agreement. It is again denied that I have ever entered into an agreement with Barclaycard on or around 2000.  It is admitted that I did hold other credit agreements with other creditors and as such should this be a debt that was assigned to Barclaycard from another brand therefore the reconstituted agreement disclosed is invalid being pre April 2007 and not legally enforceable pursuant to HHJ Judge Waksman in Carey v HSBC 2009 EWHC3417.  Details of this are attached and marked ‘Appendix 6’. The original credit agreement must be provided along with any reconstituted version on a modified credit agreement and must contain the names and address of debtor and creditor, agreement number and cancelation clause. 11. Therefore the claimant is put to strict proof to disclose a true executed legible agreement on which its claim relies upon and not mislead the court. 12. It is denied I have ever received a default Notice pursuant to sec 87(1) CCA1974.The claimant is put to strict proof to evidence from the original creditors internal document software the trigger of said notice.  13.   As per CPR 1.4(2)(a) the court encourages parties to cooperate with each other in the conduct of proceedings in order to try and save time and costs for the parties and to also save the time and resources of the court however, despite vast attempts at mediation the claimants have been most unreasonable and have remained unwilling to mediate. 14. Until such time the claimant can comply and disclose a true executed copy of the original assigned agreement they refer to within the particulars of this claim they are not entitled while the default continues, to enforce the agreement pursuant to section 78.6 (a) of the Credit Consumer Act 1974. I believe that the facts stated in this Witness Statement are true.  I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. Signed                 ………………………………………………….. Name                  XXXX Date                     30 April 2024   Run 3 copies Court /Claimants Sol/File
    • As one of you mentioned above I've been in a mess for nearly 20 years now and I'm ready to sort my credit report out now - the main reason I got into second round of debt is my kids being unwell and the state considering them not unwell enough for extra help so despite my son being in hospital for 3 months in one year we got extra zero help and I eventually lost my job and got into debt to just so I can be تا my sons hospital bed at his time of need - my life basically fell apart and all these debts got me again 
    • Gosh mate I've woke up this morning with half the worry I had last night when going to sleep!.  I can't believe how much this forum has helped me over the years and I don't  have the words to explain the gratitude I feel towards you guys -  Now that I've slept on it I feel ready to reject this company and my plan is to make them an offer to accept payments to date as full and final settlement - I will I think write them a letter once my review is completed or maybe just send it now whilst they are reviewing explaining my kids are unwell for which reason I'm struggling to survive and if I can politely request for them to accept payment to date as a full and final - I'll mention I don't have any cash or anyone to borrow from to offer a full or even part amount of the remaining balance of the iva and therfore am unable to make a offer of payment.   If they agree to at least even put my offer to the creditors then I feel it's better I hang in there and that way I won't have to deal with any possibilities of more defaults and ccjs    Right now the only adverse effects on my credit report are the iva that is now 3 years old and 2 Ccj one coming of this July and one thus October.    But I am worried new action will begin and new defaults and Ccj may start to appear because I've paying into an agreement im under the impression the 6 year rules starts again so yes I have lost of mixed feelings about this but I'm not going to lie you guys have put some life back into my breath this week as for the last 3 years I've felt caged like an animal and this morning I feel freer I can't explain how much but certainly my soul feel lighter today thanks to yin because I'm now viewing this review totally different to I do yesterday thanks to you guys 
    • Court name UNKNOWN Case number ********** Amount N/A Confirmed by Insolvency Service Date issued May 2021 Type Voluntary Arrangement Notes If you have questions about voluntary arrangements you should speak to the Insolvency Service.     I started this in 2021. So it's been about 3 years I've been paying. 
    • Thanks @lookinforinfo@Nicky Boyi sent across the agreement earlier in this thread. No mention of financial reward to the MA. But, I wouldn't be surprised if it was done on the sly. As I said earlier, the owner of OPS is a convicted criminal, with a very shady reputation around these parts.
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      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

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Hi Dave 'Bluemail' client for windows desktop i also have the app on my phone. I looked for instructions on how to do this on my desktop client, the option is not there, i'm not an expert on read receipts but if Yahoo and Gmail don't support this im a bit snookered. ;)

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I found this for Bluemail  https://bluemail.me/help/read-receipts/

However, don't worry, a Return Receipt isn't essential.  I was just thinking about proof that you sent the WS.

The court will probably send you an automatic mail anyway, and on top of that you're going to pop a paper version in.

For UKPC, simply take a screenshot of your Sent folder after the mail has been sent.

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FTMDave - many thanks for your reply.

That is the same Bluemail instructions that i found online but it does not seem to exist on my version, the Outlook one does not work either even though i ticked read receipt, must be dependant on your email account. I found an add on for my browser, it works with gmail and it works fine ;) 

Ok im off to get started on the email now ;) 

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Mozilla Thunderbird Email client is available for Windows that allows read receipts if that's any help for future. Its the one  used by many on Linux

SUPPORT.MOZILLA.ORG

This article describes how to install Thunderbird on Windows.

 

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It might help Mystic Bertie using Thunderbird

 

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FTMDave - I got the emails sent using the Gmail  method i previously mentioned. I formatted the email like you suggested.The WS and the 5 Exhibits . I took a snapshot of the sent items in my email client and saved it. I got an auto reply from all 3 addresses. ;) 

Dave amazing work indeed, when i read through the WS again i was blown away with how professional it is and your now on my christmas card list lol ;) 

 

Brassnecked i have used Thunderbird in the past. I have 8 email addresses and i tried to use a client that can handle them well in an organised way and that is free. Im not sure what email accounts you guys have but im thinking you wont get an email receipt unless your email account supports it. Im interested to find out what accounts you are using. ;) 

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Well done.

I bet UKPC won't be happy when they read their mails tomorrow morning.

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They will definitely be unhappy tomorrow.

 

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FTMDave - Yes its brilliant indeed ha ha its what crooks deserve. Would i be right in thinking i should hand deliver the documents to the court tomorrow afternoon and there is no need to send them to UKPC now? ;) 

 

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On 31/03/2024 at 23:37, mystic_bertie said:

I got an auto reply from all 3 addresses. ;)

Good!

So you don't have to do anything tomorrow.

However, leave a paper copy with the court only if you wish.

For UKPC do nothing, their auto replies show they've received what you sent.  Time for them to sweat! 

 

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Hi Dave many thanks for your reply. Does that mean the court does not need a paper copy? I assumed it would but there no point driving there and back if its not essential. ;) 

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No you don't need to give them a paper copy.

In all honestly if neither of you have submitted your WS on time I doubt a judge will care. Also your a LIP.

I've sent WX's weeks late and its been absolutely fine. 

Just ask for a relief from sanctions when you go into the room if the judge brings it up.

Chances are tho, they won't bring it up. I've had it brought up once, and I simply said that it contained information that was essential, and that it fulfilled the test of fairness to allow it in. EVRi objected saying the deadlines "had to be enforced".

Judge sided with me essentially saying that it is in the interest of the court to allow it in as the information is highly relevant.

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jk2054 - many thanks for your very helpful reply.  That saves me a journey then and thanks for clearing that up. Ill keep what you said in mind so i have an answer for him if they do. ;) 

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On 29/03/2024 at 20:40, mystic_bertie said:

FTmdave - i cant thank you enough for what you have done, im very impressed with how professional it has been done and very factual.

I think it's a case of well done CAG.

I came across this site because, during long drives to football matches as an away fan, my then teenage son used to draw my attention to signs showing restrictions in the service areas we stopped at.

I thought I had better gen up on this private parking malarkey - and found CAG.

At the time I didn't have a clue what a Witness Statement was!

I do now due to standing on the shoulders of the Honeybee, dx, Brassnecked, Ericsbrother, Andyorch, LFI, etc. giants I found here.

That's what CAG is all about, empowering users and sharing important legal knowledge.  I'm damn sure if you know people in future with the attitude of "I got a private parking fine, I had better give in otherwise the parking company will divert a drone from Ukraine to hit my house" you'll explain the reality of their legal position and encourage them to fight back.

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FTMDave - Its very impressive indeed how you have excelled in this department and you can give the advice and help the way you do.

The team on CAG go beyond the call of duty to help others including myself and i will be forever grateful and appreciate all the help.

I do donate occasionally when i can its good to support the site.

I did see someone recently on the Stroud facebook page complaining about a parking charge and i posted a link to the site and mentioned the kind of help i got on here. :) 

I got over 15k of debts wiped thanks to the the amazing help from the team on CAG. ;) 

So do i just turn up for the court hearing on the 17th Apr 3pm? Should i just follow the witness statement story? 

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On 03/04/2024 at 17:46, mystic_bertie said:

I got over 15k of debts wiped thanks to the amazing help from the team on CAG. ;) 

and if you dont win we'll spook the judge like nuthead trump does..😎

can't have one of our eldest customers losing :behindsofa:

you've been here longer than me...

dx

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Thanks Dave ;)

 

Dx many thanks for your reply. Spooking the judge is a great idea :) 

I hope i win this case, its such a waste of everyone's time but the stupid process must be followed. ;) 

I have just been here a couple of months longer than you, i did not realise i joined in 2006, where has all the time gone :) 

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Good evening folks, i have my hearing tomorrow at 3pm. I have never been to court for a civil matter, what is likely to happen  and what do i need to do? 

I plan on going straight from work, i finish at 2pm, it will take about half an hour to get there, does that sound ok?

I called the court late this afternoon, sadly i was too late in the day and the office was closed.

 

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hi JK they dont have a website 

WWW.THELAWPAGES.COM

Cheltenham Magistrates Court Contact Details (address, email, telephone, fax, DX and map of location), Court Cases (Cheltenham Magistrates Court...

 

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its not a criminal case...

county court.

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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