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I recently used Evri to send a parcel to my mother containing gifts for her birthday. After initial evidence of progress, the tracking system reported the parcel had been delayed 2 days later, then silence.

 

That was over 3 weeks ago. 

 

Subsequent interaction with the chatbot and customer services helpline yielded nothing.  A series of emails to the CEO were responded to but only to advise that Evri took no responsibility since I had booked the service through Parcel Compare. 

 

On contacting Parcel Compare, I was able to get the delivery charge back but nothing more since I had not paid what I regard as protection money to stop the parcel being stolen.

 

At that point I thought there was no more I could do until I read other stories on this site which have encouraged me to take matters further with Evri.  Accordingly, today I have sent a complaint to the CEO by post and email giving 10 days to respond.  I plan to send a letter of claim if there is no satisfactory response.

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Please produce your proposed letter of claim here so we can check what you are writing.

You've obviously done some reading but double up on it – it won't hurt.

Please tell us more about what you sent, the value, contents et cetera.

 

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This is what I have drafted so far:

 

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Dear Sir/Madam,

 

              Letter of Claim - Parcel Reference: xxxxxx

 

On 22 March 2023 I used your service via Parcel Compare to send a parcel with the above reference number.

 

The parcel never arrived at its destination, and I have been informed by your support team that everything has been done to try and locate the parcel but after investigation it hasn’t been located and due to the timescale since it was last scanned on 24/03/23 it has been declared lost in the network.

 

The shipping was purchased via the 3rd party Parcel Compare but I am pursuing yourselves as I am entitled to do under the Contract (Right of Third Parties) Act 1999.

 

Also, I did not purchase your so-called enhanced compensation policy but as you know and I know and as I know you know, all you are doing is trying to sell me duplicate rights and this insurance policy is therefore unnecessary and unenforceable by you and you already have at least four judgements against you on precisely this point - – so don't try to rely on that one in your response to me or in the forthcoming court action against you.

If you try to withhold my reimbursement on the basis of no third party rights on the contract or on the basis of no insurance then I can assure you now that we will go directly to trial and we won't waste anybody's time going to mediation as is your normal practice.
 

The value of the items in the parcel was £73.96. The parcel contained 6 items: 3 gift items recently purchased from Waterstones at a cost of £56.97, 2 books recently purchased from Amazon at a cost of £11.99, and a further book purchased earlier which could be replaced via Amazon at a cost of £5.00.  I have already provided you with a photograph of the contents as you had requested.

 

I am only claiming for the loss of the goods since Parcel Compare have refunded me the delivery charge.

 

I have had email contact with your Executive team (having found it impossible to make contact with your customer services team) to try and resolve this but have been unable to. I sent a letter of complaint on 19th April concerning these events requesting a proposal to resolve the issue within 10 days.

 

You have so far not responded so I am therefore informing you that I propose to begin a county court claim against you within 14 days of this letter. I will not begin this process if you reimburse me for the lost parcel before that date.

 

Yours faithfully,

 

XXXX

 

 

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I have added two sentences. One in red which you must include. One in Violet which you don't have to include that we are suggesting nowadays that you don't bother to go to mediation and you go directly to trial on these issues.

This second one in Violet is a matter for you to decide.

Let us know what you want to do and when you eventually sent the letter of claim, please post up the final version which you decide to use

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Evri have replied to my complaint, more or less as before, saying:

 

Dear xxxx
 
In reference to parcel xxxxxxxx
 
My name is Stephen and I also respond to enquiries on behalf of Martijn De Lange, within the Evri executive office.
 
I am truly sorry to see that you have had such a negative experience with our service and that your parcel hasn't reached it's destination. I'm afraid that we are only able to process claims for compensation against parcels when the original delivery order has been placed directly with us. As this order was originally placed with ParcelCompare, all claims must be processed by their team.
 
Please accept my sincere apologies for the inconvenience this may cause.
 
Yours Sincerely
 
Steve
 
In view of this unsatisfactory response, on Monday I will post and email my letter of claim which goes as follows:
 

Dear Sir/Madam,

 

              Letter of Claim - Parcel Reference: xxxxxx

 

On 22 March 2023 I used your service via Parcel Compare to send a parcel with the above reference number.

 

The parcel never arrived at its destination, and I have been informed by your support team that everything has been done to try and locate the parcel but after investigation it hasn’t been located and due to the timescale since it was last scanned on 24/03/23 it has been declared lost in the network.

 

The shipping was purchased via the 3rd party Parcel Compare but I am pursuing yourselves as I am entitled to do under the Contract (Right of Third Parties) Act 1999.

 

Also, I did not purchase your so-called enhanced compensation policy but as you know and I know and as I know you know, all you are doing is trying to sell me duplicate rights and this insurance policy is therefore unnecessary and unenforceable by you and you already have at least four judgements against you on precisely this point - so don't try to rely on that one in your response to me or in the forthcoming court action against you.

 

If you try to withhold my reimbursement on the basis of no third party rights on the contract or on the basis of no insurance, then I can assure you now that we will go directly to trial and we won't waste anybody's time going to mediation as is your normal practice.

 

The value of the items in the parcel was £87.46. The parcel contained 6 items: 3 gift items recently purchased from Waterstones at a cost of £56.97, 2 books recently purchased from Amazon at a cost of £11.99, and a further book (hardback) purchased earlier which could currently be replaced via Amazon at a cost of £18.50.  I have already provided you with a photograph of the contents as you had requested.

 

I am only claiming for the loss of the goods since Parcel Compare have refunded me the delivery charge.

 

I have had email contact with your Executive team (having found it impossible to make contact with your customer services team) to try and resolve this but have been unable to. I sent a letter of complaint on 19th April concerning these events requesting a proposal to resolve the issue within 10 days.

 

Your response to my complaint was unsatisfactory so I am therefore informing you that I propose to begin a county court claim against you within 14 days of this letter. I will not begin this process if you reimburse me for the lost parcel before that date.

 

Yours faithfully,

 

XXXX

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The letter of claim went to Evri yesterday by letter and email so 8th May is date set for submitting court claim via MCOL.  This is filled in and ready to go.  The claim particulars section reads as follows:

 

Claim Particulars

 

The claimant used the defendant's courier
service to deliver a package containing three
books, a pair of gloves, a book stand and a
phone stand, value – £87.46 to a UK address.
Reference number xxxxxxxxx. The defendant
breached the contract by losing the package
and contents and refuses to reimburse the
claimant to the full value of the package.
The defendant's requirement that a customer
is responsible for insuring themselves
against the defendant’s own negligence or the
criminality of its employees are unfair
within the meaning of the Consumer Rights Act
2015 and therefore unenforceable. The
shipping was purchased via a third-party
however the claimant is pursuing the
defendant as entitled to do under the
Contract (Right of Third Parties) Act 1999.
The claimant claims interest under section 69
of the County Courts Act 1984 at the rate of
8% a year from 24/03/2023 to 08/05/2023 on
£87.46 and also interest at the same
rate up to the date of judgment or earlier
payment at a daily rate of £0.02.

 

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If you are certain that this fits within any word limit, then it is fine

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  • 1 month later...

A brief update on my case:

 I commenced my court case on 8th May and have received notification from HM Courts & Tribunals Service that Evri have acknowledged service as of 23 May and have 28 days from that date to file a response.  The notification confirms that Evri intend to defend all of the claim.

 Meanwhile I continue to follow other threads and noted a comment on one of them where you advised as a claimant you will only be able to claim for your declared value.

In my case I do not recall what I put as the declared value other than it was a round sum amount, not the specific amount I have now calculated to be my loss.  I had assumed that was ok on the basis that a precise figure was only needed for the purpose calculating the additional charge for ‘insurance’ which I wasn’t taking out and the basic price for delivery is based just on the weight and size of the parcel, not the value of its contents.  Furthermore, I reasoned that the higher the value quoted the more likely the package was to go missing.

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Sorry, but I'm not really sure what you are getting at here.

But if you have already issued your claim then we are beyond that now and we will have to see what they say in the defence.

This question of value in declared value should have been understood and sorted out before you issued the claim

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  • 3 weeks later...

Yesterday I received correspondence from the County Court Business Centre providing a copy of Evri’s defence and requesting my completion of form N180 by 30 June.  A redacted copy of Evri’s defence is attached.

Regarding the N180, I propose responding as attached.  As I see it:

A1.  I should not agree to Mediation since I advised in my LOC that I would not be using it.

C1.  I should agree since the claim is under £10,000.

D1.  I should not agree since the claim needs the rights of third parties act to have full consideration in a hearing.  Without a hearing there could be a risk of this act not being given sufficient weight.  I’m unsure how much detail should be provided in the text box – I’d welcome views on whether what I have drafted is sufficient.

E1 – E5 are routine questions.

I'd welcome any comments.

N180_draft response pdf.pdf Defence document redacted.pdf

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D1 – they are issues of law – not of fact. The law is whether you are entitled to sue under the 1999 act. This is a matter which will be decided by the judge if the defendant continues to dispute this.

E1 should also point out that the defendant is a well resource limited liability company and you are suing as a litigant in person.

E4 – don't forget to specify which states you aren't available

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Hope I haven't messed up.  Evri sent their defence to court with copy to me on 29 June.  I have just read on gov.uk website that I am supposed to advise court what I want to do next within 33 days so I'm possibly almost out of time.  Clearly I want full settlement or to go to court, but I'm not sure how I give this instruction. Can you help?

 

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I don't understand because you say that they sent their defence with a copy to you on 29 June yet you posted their defence on this website on 18 June

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Hope I haven't messed up.  Evri sent their DQ to the court copying me on 29 June and I have just read on a Gov.uk website that I am supposed to advise court what I want to do within 33 days.

 

I had uploaded a form N9B from Evri.  What I received on 29 June was a form N180 from them.

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So it was the DQ – not the defence.

What instructions does the DQ give you?

 

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Did you receive a blank DQ from the court ? Have you submitted your DQ ? that's how you normally inform the court you wish to proceed.

 

 

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So your not late in notifying to proceed. The court will now allocate the claim and will send you a Notice of Allocation N 157...come back once you have this as you will then have to prepare for the hearing by following the courts directions.

Andy.

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  • 2 months later...

I have still not had a notice of allocation from the court.  I tried ringing today for an update but got no answer.  Meanwhile I have logged back on to MCOL where I note some updates, the most recent of them are these:

Case Stay Lifted on 24/08/2023

EVRI filed a DQ on 24/08/2023

Your claim was transferred to LEEDS on 24/08/2023

I requested the hearing to be in Milton Keynes, my local court, and do not wish it to be in Leeds.  Can I challenge this, and if so, how?

I have not seen any DQ from Evri since 29th June, so do not know what they filed on 24th August.  Do you know how I can obtain a copy?

Is the case stay lifting on 24 August significant?

 

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it will be the court you put on your N180 no need to challenge

you are simple await allocation which can be months. 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Did the the MCOL status also state you had filed a DQ ?

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The full claim history on MCOL is as below.  It isn't really clear, since there are 3 references to a DQ.  From my notes, I can confirm I posted the DQ to the court and to EVRi on 21st June and I received theirs on 29th June.  Neither of these events is accurately recorded on MCOL.

Claim history shown on MCOL:

You submitted a claim on 08/05/2023 at 15:32:16

Your claim was issued on 09/05/2023

EVRI filed an acknowledgment of service on 22/05/2023 at 12:05:06

 
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A bar was put in place for EVRI on 12/06/2023

EVRI filed a defence on 12/06/2023 at 16:05:10

 
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DQ sent to EVRI on 13/06/2023

Case Stay Lifted on 04/08/2023

DQ filed on 04/08/2023

Case Stay Lifted on 24/08/2023

EVRI filed a DQ on 24/08/2023

Your claim was transferred to LEEDS on 24/08/2023

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DQ filed on 04/08/2023

I assume that's your DQ but normally it would state claimants or defendant's. Its strange that the claim was stayed if your DQ was submitted on time.

I any event its now been transferred to Leeds so they deal with the notice of allocation...keep trying Leeds or call in if possible.

Form N157 is what you are waiting on.

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