ParkingEye ANPR PCN PAPLOC Now Claimform - Overstay - Riverside Retail Park, Chelmsford, Victoria Road, Chelmsford, Essex, CM1 1AN

[dx100uk]

yes , they should sent a copy. 

1 hour ago, dx100uk said:

thankyou

dont use email. use 1st class stamp get free proof of posting from any po counter, it does not hurt if its a day or 2 late you are a LiP (litigant in person - joe public against the system- you get certain leeway)

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/347310-legal-n180-directions-questionnaire-small-claims-track-correct-at-sept-2016/#comment-5088148

3 copies

yes to mediation (unless you filed our Statute Barred Defence OR this is a claim for a Private Parking Ticket)

1 wit you

Suitability for determination without a hearing? no (read all the posts in N180 link above for the reason)

the rest is obv

1 to the court

1 to sols (omit phone/sig/email)

1 for your file

dx

how many more times are people going to post what you must do?

[Nicky Boy]

1 hour ago, Reds123 said:

can I say "no" and simply put the the reason down as factual disputes - will need to be orally argued?

Yes

1 hour ago, Reds123 said:

because 

1) they have not responded to the CPR - Not provided a proof of contract with the owner and PP 

2)PCN was non-complaint 

3)Parking time was not stated on the PCN

No

[dx100uk]

FOLLOW THE GUIDE REDS!!

 

[Reds123]

Yes will do @dx100uk. Spent a couple of hours on reading the threads today. But  when I get to doing things, I do not want to look silly and make a mockery of my case.

[FTMDave]

You can send a SAR at any time, but as you have the original paperwork I don't see the point.

Just get the DQ off.

After that, if you can get pix of the "change" from 2 hours to 3 hours' free parking it would be extremely useful.

Any reply from the retail park?

[Reds123]

I have the picture of the 3 hour change . Need to sit down and post it.

They did respond . But as some of you pointed out earlier, it probably was too late for them to intervene once £35 was paid by PE towards court fees. So they said they couldn’t do much.

will fill up the DQ and post it.

meanwhile I have received a 20 page defence statement from the same lady as in  @Reapstars case  from PE.

[dx100uk]

1 hour ago, Reds123 said:

meanwhile I have received a 20 page defence statement

a claimant does not file a defence statement  they are not the defendant... you are!

[lookinforinfo]

But could you please post up what they have sent. Given 20 pages they are bound to have boobed somewhere which you can exploit.

[Reds123]

Yes spot @dx100uk. 
I am technologically paralysed. So some times I get my son to do scan documents. That’s what I am waiting to do. 
 

meanwhile I will sent my DQ to them.

in the DQ I say “ no” to mediation ,there is a place to sign . Now as above you have asked me not to sign . So shall I just write my name there? And I have requested the court to be held closer to my home. Dose that sound ok??

[dx100uk]

as its a parking ticket not a credit agreement, there is no risk of it being lifted onto any fake documents.

the defendant can sign it ok. the sticky is one for ALL court claims not just PCN's.

just, again, for clarity. do NOT give them any phone or email addresses on their copy.

 

dx

 

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[Reds123]

Here is the online copy . hope its fine.

when can I expect to go to courts and when do I need to  file my defence statement please ?

Got a few points marked out from your comments earlier on the threads also from others cases by reading up here and there. Still have some questions as above. 

DQ N180.pdf

[dx100uk]

god please learn to spell correctly on a court form!

you do not need the 1st sentence anyway ..utter rubbish. doesnt make sense anyway.

as for the rest...you have already filed your defence.

 

dx

 

 

[Reds123]

Here is the response from PE, also the latest signage, which says maximum parking time of 3 hours.

sure @dx100uk.

I just typed something in a hurry to ensure I was doing it right .

will correct the spellings before I post It off . 

If not for the support on the forum and directions from here, I would be a nervous wreck . esp if you see the 20 page document !!

newPE signage.pdf PE response.pdf

[dx100uk]

how do you expect us to read the small print on that sign picture when its soo small and off rotate

[FTMDave]

I've only skimmed through the bilge from Sammy, as we've seen nearly identical rubbish sent out in several PE cases recently.

I think it would be a good idea to get lots of photos of the 3-hour signs, both close-up and how they can be seen from vehicles, for your WS.

There's no need to mention the change from 2-hour to 3-hour in your WS, just ignore that and show loads of 3-hour signs and put PE to strict proof that the signage was different in April 2022.  They certainly won't be expecting this line of attack.  And Sammy will have no info about the changeover date.

Also get on to the council and find out the original planning permission and its allowances for free parking - I bet it was 3 hours.

As for your other questions about the legal process and what comes next - if you read this short thread you will see all the steps that are coming  https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/406892-highview-parking-anpr-pcn-claimform-urban-exchange-manchester-claim-dismissed/#comments 

[Reds123]

I tried looking at council website. But no clue as to where to look it up.

does “private parking restrictions “ come up as separate entity?

how would saying signage was different in 2022 help me? Unless the parking permission said 3 hours?

 

@dx100uk a better version of it.

Pe signage.pdf

[dx100uk]

planning section

under the name of the retail park

probably initial grant planning permission document from many years ago , should be there.

[Reds123]

I haven’t heard anything from them since sending back DQ questionnaire. The MCOL website still doesn’t reflect that I have filed my response. Should I do anything?

[jk2054]

Can you please post the MCOL status ?

 

Also when did you send back your DQ and how? (e.g by email or by post etc)

[Reds123]

Stay Lifted on 02/10/2023

DQ sent to you on 02/10/2023

DQ filed by claimant on 02/10/2023

This is what MCOL says.

I sent  DQ by post on 19/10/23. First class , two copies , one to courts and other to claimant.

[dx100uk]

we know northants bulk ccbc is going through a very big system change and a rename , and hane only just recently said they'd just updates case status to 4th oct, so your dq was sent after that date. if theres no update by friday i would email your dq to them.

dx

[lookinforinfo]

I found this on the Chelmsford planning portal which was updated  on January 2023. 

Riverside car park

WWW.CHELMSFORD.GOV.UK

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Find out details of the Riverside car park, including location, number of spaces and charges.

So is this a different car park from the Riverside Retail park or has PE not applied for planning permission 

[dx100uk]

the claimform says 

Riverside Retail Park, Chelmsford,
Victoria Road, Chelmsford, Essex, CM1 1AN

that riverside car park is on the otherside of the same (victoria) road (A1099) and a differing CM11PA

dx

 

[Reds123]

@dx100uk how can I use that piece of information? Can I say it’s two different places and hence it does not apply?

[dx100uk]

there is no link, 

the claimform clearly states the postcode of the carpark concerned in your case.