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    • The property was our family home.  A fixed low rate btl/ development loan was given (last century!). It was derelict. Did it up/ was rented out for a while.  Then moved in/out over the years (mostly around school)  It was a mix of rental and family home. The ad-hoc rents covered the loan amply.  Nowadays  banks don't allow such a mix.  (I have written this before.) Problems started when the lease was extended and needed to re-mortgage to cover the expense.  Wanted another btl.  Got a tenant in situ. Was located elsewhere (work). A broker found a btl lender, they reneged.  Broker didn't find another btl loan.  The tenant was paying enough to cover the proposed annual btl mortgage in 4 months. The broker gave up trying to find another.  I ended up on a bridge and this disastrous path.  (I have raised previous issues about the broker) Not sure what you mean by 'split'.  The property was always leasehold with a separate freeholder  The freeholder eventually sold the fh to another entity by private agreement (the trust) but it's always been separate.  That's quite normal.  One can't merge titles - unless lease runs out/ is forfeited and new one is not created/ granted. The bridge lender had a special condition in loan offer - their own lawyer had to check title first.  Check that lease wasn't onerous and there was nothing that would affect good saleability.  The lawyer (that got sacked for dishonesty) signed off the loan on the basis the lease and title was good and clean.  The same law firm then tried to complain the lease clauses were onerous and the lease too short, even though the loan was to cover a 90y lease extension!! 
    • Northmonk forget what I said about your Notice to Hirer being the best I have seen . Though it  still may be  it is not good enough to comply with PoFA. Before looking at the NTH, we can look at the original Notice to Keeper. That is not compliant. First the period of parking as sated on their PCN is not actually the period of parking but a misstatement  since it is only the arrival and departure times of your vehicle. The parking period  is exactly that -ie the time youwere actually parked in a parking spot.  If you have to drive around to find a place to park the act of driving means that you couldn't have been parked at the same time. Likewise when you left the parking place and drove to the exit that could not be describes as parking either. So the first fail is  failing to specify the parking period. Section9 [2][a] In S9[2][f] the Act states  (ii)the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver, the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Your PCN fails to mention the words in parentheses despite Section 9 [2]starting by saying "The notice must—..." As the Notice to Keeper fails to comply with the Act,  it follows that the Notice to Hirer cannot be pursued as they couldn't get the NTH compliant. Even if the the NTH was adjudged  as not  being affected by the non compliance of the NTK, the Notice to Hirer is itself not compliant with the Act. Once again the PCN fails to get the parking period correct. That alone is enough to have the claim dismissed as the PCN fails to comply with PoFA. Second S14 [5] states " (5)The notice to Hirer must— (a)inform the hirer that by virtue of this paragraph any unpaid parking charges (being parking charges specified in the notice to keeper) may be recovered from the hirer; ON their NTH , NPE claim "The driver of the above vehicle is liable ........" when the driver is not liable at all, only the hirer is liable. The driver and the hirer may be different people, but with a NTH, only the hirer is liable so to demand the driver pay the charge  fails to comply with PoFA and so the NPE claim must fail. I seem to remember that you have confirmed you received a copy of the original PCN sent to  the Hire company plus copies of the contract you have with the Hire company and the agreement that you are responsible for breaches of the Law etc. If not then you can add those fails too.
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    • I understand what you mean. But consider that part of the problem, and the frustration of those trying to help, is the way that questions are asked without context and without straight facts. A lot of effort was wasted discussing as a consumer issue before it was mentioned that the property was BTL. I don't think we have your history with this property. Were you the freehold owner prior to this split? Did you buy the leasehold of one half? From a family member? How was that funded (earlier loan?). How long ago was it split? Have either of the leasehold halves changed hands since? I'm wondering if the split and the leashold/freehold arrangements were set up in a way that was OK when everyone was everyone was connected. But a way that makes the leasehold virtually unsaleable to an unrelated party.
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Lowell/Overdales letter of claim now claimform - 2 CAT debts JDW + Studio ***Settled at Mediation ADR***


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Thanks for the email address I’ve just had a look and there were a few different ones. I’ve looked on MCOL and I can’t see an option to complete the DQ on there so it will be emailed to them. I will post a copy to Overdales.

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mcol online ends once you file your defence 

it then just updates the claim status until it get transferred out to your local court then its involvement stops.

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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All emailed to the court.

Just Overdales copy to mail to them now. 
I have noticed on their Directions Questionnaire they’ve requested no hearing and wish to have a telephone hearing - they’ve also stated they have no witnesses? Is this normal for them? 
 

I requested hearing venue at my local court , so would they have to attend there if that’s decided with no witnesses to give evidence? 

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Claimants do not have or require witnesses its always left blank on the DQ. They have counsel or representation.

The court will decide if there should be a hearing you will be informed in your Notice of Allocation n157.

 

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Back again, I’ve received an email this morning  to arrange a mediation appointment. The email states if I can’t answer yes to the following questions then mediation isn’t suitable

  1. I am willing to negotiate on the amount of the claim and I will consider a compromise.
  2. I have enough information about the claim to enter into negotiations and do not require any further evidence from the other party before starting mediation.
  3. I’m available for the entire time slot on the date of my appointment.

Sorry I haven’t posted in a while there didn’t seem to be much point in posting while it was quiet. 
I can’t answer yes to all three questions so what would the next step be? Will it go to court? 

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Answer no if that's the case and yes the claim proceeds.

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1000% unless you settle at mediation.....all claim proceed to allocation/court if mediation fails or not engaged.

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Do you wish to settle and participate in mediation .....can you say yes to their three points ?

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If I can get the time off work then I’ll try to go ahead with it, I’ve got enough on my plate at the moment without this hanging over my head. 
my only issue is they never fully complied with the paperwork that I requested

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it doesnt matter they not supplied everything, these are 2019 sign ups and they would eventually supply everything anyway and you are admitting the debt.

answer yes to all? as you want mediation.

the mediator will deal with lowells, you dont speak directly to them.

just tell Med that you wish to settle for £PCM deal .

dont go in high with a £PCM, stay low , stand your ground, they'll accept in the end.

this is £1300, so go with say £10PCM , and be prepared to got say £20PCM, that will be 5yrs of payments.

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Its all done via telephone poss last 20mins...do you really need time off....just find a quiet corner?

 

Be prepared that they dont have to settle for anything in mediation and may not budge

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The phone call is scheduled during some of my working hours. Can I request they call after a certain time when I am not working? 
My job is unfortunately the kind of job that I can’t take myself off into a quiet corner for a while. 

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Cant see why not as long as its during working hours for the mediator and claimant.

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I requested a call out of my working hours, the mediation service has said  they have passed the message on but cannot guarantee a call after the time I’ve requested. Tomorrow is the mediation call. I’m just going to go straight in with a £PCM offer to the mediator and go from there. 
Thankyou all for all of your help along the way. 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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  • AndyOrch changed the title to Lowell/Overdales letter of claim now claimform - 2 CAT debts JDW + Studio ***Settled at Mediation ADR***

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