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A neighbour with a similar address to us has recently brought quite a bit of our mail which has been misdel to them & this notice was in this. 

 

However, there was no previous order in there ??  

 

 

 

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What notice ?

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Get reading up now on whats to come and how to react at each stage.

but always check here 1st before you do anything mind

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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What will their next attack likely to be? 

 

From what I can gather these unscrupulous people have taken advantage of some court action which went in favour of these parasites & are also trying to make retrospective claims too?? 

 

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I don't know what you mean by "next attack"?  If you mean your case, there will be an exchange of Witness Statements and then a court hearing.  As dx says, read other CEL claimform threads and you'll see the stages of the court process.

 

If I were you I'd be a little worried about all this missing correspondence.  You didn't get the original letters from the fleecers and then the original DQ went missing.

 

Have you sent a SAR to CEL as suggested in post 17?

We could do with some help from you.

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Hi All

 

I found out last night I wasn't the driver at the time ??? 

Do I just carry on with how far I've got now?? 

 

As you may have already gathered, I'm not very good with all this & is a very steep learning curve for me. 

 

I've not been able to find the SAR template. 

Can you point me in the right direction please?

or do I need this as I was not the driver at the time?? 

 

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You've mentioned twice before that someone else was using the car.

 

I don't understand why you haven't sent a SAR to CEL despite being advised to do so three months ago.  You will shortly have to write a Witness Statement and then appear at the court hearing, and you've got none of the paperwork regarding the case.

We could do with some help from you.

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With these parking events, providing the crooks have complied with the regulations that relate to private parking they can pursue the keeper if the driver does not pay. That is why we are asking you to get the info to find out if you may have to pay.

 

On our home page we have most, if not all, legislation required in relation to parking and the Law in the Library. In the CAG subforums you will find "Data Protection" and the sar template is one of those in that section.

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Hello All

 

This is what my other half (He was the registered keeper at the time) has now received. 

 

Please see the attached & can anyone help me in how to move forward with this?   

Can I attend in my other half's place, as he's not good in these environments? 

 

 

 

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So did you send off the SAR and are you working on a WS [witness statement] for the hearing?

 

To answer your question about appearing in court in your OH's place, I don't think you can but you can go along with him and possibly help a bit. I expect the forum experts will be along to advise on other stuff.

 

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First attachment won't open.  Second attachment worked fine. 

 

The person being sued is the person who will have to appear in court.

 

Please post up CEL's reply to your SAR request.  Or have they refused to answer?

 

 

We could do with some help from you.

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can we have ALL of the general notice from the court please bothsides one mass PDF

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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So?  Copy of the reply to the SAR?

 

And copy of the whole court order so we can see if there is a court date?

We could do with some help from you.

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