MET/DCB(L) windscreen PCN PAPLOC Now Claimform - electric bay abuse - ASDA Arla Old Dairy South Ruislip

[rocky_sharma]

After shopping at ASDA when I returned to my car in the car park (operated by MET), which was parked in the bay marked for electric vehicles I saw PCN attached to my car's windscreen and it was regarding electric bay abuse. 

 

My car is not an electric car but is this PCN fair?

[rocky_sharma]

1 The date of infringement? ANS: 5th Dec 2019

2 Have you yet appealed to the parking company yet? [Y/N?] ANS: N

have you received a Notice To Keeper? (NTK) [must be received by you between 29-56 days] ANS: N

5 Who is the parking company? ANS: MET Parking Services Limited

6. where exactly [Carpark name and town] did you park? ANS: (840) Arla Old Dairy, Ruislip, HA4 0FY

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For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under.

There are two official bodies, the BPA and the IAS. ANS: BPA.

[rocky_sharma]

@sparkeyrjp -   

I have children and all parents and child bays were occupied (unfortunately no body receives ticket on those bays)

I searched for other empty spaces except disabled bays, only option was to park in electric charge point bays and there were plenty of those available if any body needed to use the electric charge point.

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Today I received NTK from MET with mention of Parking Charge Amount £100 is Due. 

The date of the issue of the notice is mentioned as 6th Jan 2020 which surprises me as it took almost 7 days to arrive in post. 

It also mentions that 28 days from the date of the notice,  if the amount is unpaid then they have right to recover that from me.

@Ericsbrother,  Please see attached single image showing where my car was parked and second set of images showing signage.

 

Pixs .pdf

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@dx  Please see attached NTK.

 

2020-01-06 NTK re pcn 2019-12-02 Electric bay abuse .pdf

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I have got few letters begging for money now

I wonder shall I at least sent them letter acknowledging this and informing that I am not ready to pay or something?

as sitting idle doesn't seem like a good idea.

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same as posted on my another thread

shall I go for the option of POPLA appeal in this case

I think there is still time to do it in this case.

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I have received Letter Before Claim from CST Law Firm who has been instructed by MET Parking Services to commence legal action against me. 

since last one or two months I have started receiving letters again. 

Not sure if the gap between two letters is more than a month than case is still valid but looking forward to get some help.

I suppose Letter Before Claim now officially requires me to respond or take some action?

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Actually the CST has sent me the form to fill in,  please see attached. 

 

2021-01-29 CST PAPLOC.pdf

[rocky_sharma]

the charge amount is £170.

[rocky_sharma]

can you please review below and advise of any changes?

 

 

Ref PCN: ****
VRN: ****

PCN Date: 05/12/2019
Issue Date (Posted): 06/01/2020

 

 

I write in response to your so-called “Letter Before Claim”, received in relation to PCN Number xxxx, issued by MET Parking Services for alleged parking breaches.

 

I am writing to confirm that I have no intention of paying these ridiculous and made-up sums of money for allegedly breaking some imaginary contract with your client.

 

You also scored a big own goal when you tried to sneak in £70 Unicorn Food Tax.  Remember DDJ Harvey's judgement at Lewes on 5 February 2020 (claim number F0HM9E9Z)?  Not very happy with these made-up amounts, was he?

 

You can either drop this foolishness now or get a good hiding in court.  Up to you.  I quite fancy a well overdue holiday once all this COVID stuff is over and you’re financing it after an unreasonable costs order under CPR 27.14(2)(g) would do nicely.

 

Should your client wish to proceed with this farcical claim, I’ll be seeking recovery of costs on the basis of unreasonable behaviour, as well as damages for breach of the DPA 2018.

[rocky_sharma]

I now have received Notice of Debt Recovery letter from Direct Collection Bailiffs Ltd last Friday with regards to this PCN.

saying I have unpaid parking charge of £170.00 and that I have 14 days from the date of the letter (3rd Jan 2023) to pay the outstanding amount or call them to discuss repayment.  If I don't pay they will recommend the commencement of legal action against me.

My question is

the last set of communications were almost 2 years ago and I no longer have Post Office receipts as evidence to show that I replied to their communication (snotty letters), will that affect?  

what does discussion of repayment mean will they reduce the amount? and if yes is it worth going down that route?

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@Dx yes I have read very bottom of the letter saying "this case is not subject to High court or bailiff action". 

However, I want to know just in case if legal action is taken will I need those Post Office tracking receipt of snotty letters? as I do not have those any more. 

I thought I will not receive any more communication on this so threw them away.

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coming back to this post since there is a change in situation

I now have sold the car to which this PCN is linked and just want to confirm that I do not need to inform about this to parking company.

I have been ignoring their letters and nothing has happened.

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just for knowledge what is backdoor CCJ?  does it apply in above scenario?

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Today I have received "LETTER OF CLAIM" from dcblegal.  Please see attached file and advice.  Thankyou.

letter of claim 20231011 - Copy.pdf

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Hi @FTMDave please see below content to include in my letter to CEO and please modify as you think to make it more effective.  Will it be ok to send this communication via email?  I will also attach receipt of my recent shopping from ASDA.

 

Dear MR xxx,

I am a regular customer of ASDA and have been doing my weekend shopping from ASDA.  ASDA is my most preferable supermarket and regularly visit South Ruislip ASDA for my weekend shopping. 

My purpose of writing this letter is about a PCN (Parking Charge Notice) issued to me by MET Parking Ltd.  The notice was issued about 4 years ago to park in an electric bay this is something new to me and I have been getting letters from MET to pay for PCN for almost 4 years.

Below are the details of the PCN.  I am a regular genuine customer of ASDA and I appreciate if this ticket can be cancelled. 

PCN Number:

Location:

PCN Issue Date:

Vehicle Reg Number:

Issued By:

Reason for Issue:

Yours Sincerely,

xxx

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Hi @FTMDave please also see below rewritten snotty letter I am going to send this soon with 1st class recorded delivery.  Please let me know any modifications I should make.   

Dear DCB Legal,

Ref PCN Number: xxxxx
VRN: xxxxx

PCN Date: 05/12/2019
Issue Date (Posted): 06/01/2020 

I write in response to your “LETTER OF CLAIM”, received in relation to PCN Number xxxx, issued by MET Parking Services for alleged parking breaches.

I am writing to confirm that I have no intention of paying these ridiculous and made-up sums of money for allegedly breaking some imaginary contract with your client.

You also scored a big own goal when you tried to sneak in £70 Unicorn Food Tax.  Remember DDJ Harvey's judgement at Lewes on 5 February 2020 (claim number F0HM9E9Z)?  Not very happy with these made-up amounts, was he?

You can either drop this foolishness now or get a good hiding in court.  Up to you.  I quite fancy a well overdue holiday once all this is over and you’re financing it after an unreasonable costs order under CPR 27.14(2)(g) would do nicely, as would damages for breach of GDPR.

 

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On Monday I posed snotty letter to DCBL and MET and also sent email to ASDA CEO with attachment of receipts and bank transactions.  Unfortunately I got below response from ASDA.

Thank you for contacting Mr Issa, my name is Anjan, as part of the Executive Relations Team at Asda, I will be responding to you directly.

I am sorry to learn that you received a Parking Charge Notification (PCN) in 2019, all of our stores have clear signs informing our customers of the conditions of the car park, failure to adhere to the conditions may result in a PCN.

As the PCN is now 4 years old and the car park is monitored by an external company, MET Parking Services, Asda do not have any control over issuing or cancelling the PCN in question.

I would advise you to contact the issuer, MET Parking Services who would be best suited to support you further.

Apologies that I could not help further.

Kind Regards
Anjan
Executive Relations Team

[rocky_sharma]

yesterday I received attached letter and evidences related to PCN from DCBL. 

Not sure what this means do I need to reply back or take any other action?

 

2023-11-02 DCBL PAPLOC reply reply.pdf

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I received attached "Claim Form" yesterday with regards to this.  What do I need to do now?

 

 

Claim Form 08-12-23 (1).pdf

[rocky_sharma]

Hi @honeybee13 and @dx100uk ,  Thanks and please see below answers.  Please let me know if anything missing.

Which Court have you received the claim from ?  Yes  (civil national business centre - the county court)

Name of the Claimant :    MET Parking Services LTD

Claimants Solicitors: Ellen O'Donnell

Date of issue –    08  DEC 2023

Date for AOS -   26 DEC 2023

Date to submit Defence - 09 JAN 2024

What is the claim for – 

1. The Defendant (D) is indebted to the Claimant (C) for a Parking Charge(s) Issued to vehicle xxxxxxxx at (840) Ara Old Dairy, South Ruislip, HA4 OFY.

2. The PCN(S) were issued on 05/12/2019

3. The defendant ls pursued as the driver of the vehicle for breach of the terms on the signs (the contract). Reason:Electric Bay Abuse

4. In the alternative the defendant is pursued as the keeper pursuant to POFA 2012, Schedule 4. AND THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS

1.£170 being the total of the PCN(s) and damages.

2. Interest at a rate of 8% per annum pursuant to s.69 of the County Courts Act 1984 from the date hereof at a daily rate of £01 until judgment or sooner payment.

3.Costs and court fees

What is the value of the claim?

Amount Claimed - 227.36

court fees - 35.00

legal rep fees - 50.00

Total Amount - 312.36

Have you moved since the issuance of the PCN? (y/N - if Y state Date too) No

Did you receive a letter of Claim With A reply Pack wanting I&E etc about 1mth before the claimform? Y/N + date and did you reply?  No I think I got I&E together with claim form

 

[rocky_sharma]

thank you for your guidance

I have prepared a letter as below to solicitor

can you please review and suggest any correction or modifications if you think please? 

also is my name need to be same as in passport or is it ok to use usual short name that I use for myself? 

I already have government gateway id I suppose I can use that as that is needed for the reason of income & tax purpose? 

Many Thanks

 

To DCB LEGAL LTD

[Your address]

DCB LEGAL LTD - 0330 1744 172

DIRECT HOUSE,

GREENWOOD DRIVE

RUNCORN

WA7 1UG

 

(template removed - dx)

[rocky_sharma]

for the third point about disclosure and production of document where I need to mention solicitors do I mention just DCBLegal or also CST Law? please see below.

3. Copies of the notice to driver, notice to keeper and any other correspondence from [insert Claimant Name] & DCBLegal  & CST Law to the defendant that they intend to rely upon in court.

If I have used my short name in past communication with those solicitors and MET will that matter? or will I have to mention that in the 3rd point?  those communication did include relevant PCN Number.

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yesterday I did AOS and today sent CPR request to solicitor,  in CPR there is below paragraph does that mean there will be some cost that I will have to pay for?

In accordance with CPR 31.15© I undertake to be responsible for your reasonable copying costs incurred in complying with this CPR 31.14 request