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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
    • Thanks for all the suggestions so far I will amend original WS and send again for review.  While looking at my post at very beginning when I submitted photos of signs around the car park I noticed that it says 5 hours maximum stay while the signage sent by solicitor shows 4 hours maximum stay but mine is related to electric bay abuse not sure if this can be of any use in WS.
    • Not sure what to make of that or what it means for me, I was just about to head to my kip and it's a bit too late for legalise. When is the "expenditure occured"?  When they start spending money to write to me?  Or is this a bad thing (as "harsh" would imply)? When all is said and done, I do not have two beans to rub together, we rent our home and EVERYTHING of value has been purchased by and is in my wife's name and we are not financially linked in any way.  So at least if I can't escape my fate I can at least know that they will get sweet FA from me anyway   edit:  ah.. Sophia Harrison: Time bar decision tough on claimants WWW.SCOTTISHLEGAL.COM Time bar is a very complex area of law in Scotland relating to the period in which a claim for breach of duty can be pursued. The Scottish government...   This explains it like I am 5.  So, a good thing then because creditors clearly know they have suffered a loss the minute I stop paying them, this is why it is "harsh" (for them, not me)? Am I understanding this correctly?  
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1 minute ago, keek said:

BazzaS thanks , didn’t look at it that way. 

I served a witness statement before the last hearing but it doesn’t include the photos of the camera she has interfered with as she did this after the hearing when the judge asked for an expert report. 

Shes sneaky. That’s why she had an issue of me hand delivering letters and phoned the police saying I was harassing her. 

Should I send an updated one including the things that have happened since? 


I would do an updated witness statement in this situation.

 

I think it’s an opportunity to explain your position with the expert/instructions, sending/hand delivering her letters, the photos you took of the cameras etc etc.

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HI 

Just a quick update.

Received a letter from court today.

 

The claim has been stayed for four months and the hearing vacated.

 

The claimant shall write to the court within 7 days of the expiry of the stay to inform the court if the matter should be listed for a hearing or if an extension of the stay required.

 

Since this order was made of the courts own motion any party shall have permission to apply to the court to vary the contents of the order or set aside within 7 days of service. 

 

Thanks. 

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Expected due to the current climate.

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That should be a laugh - her writing to the court in her spider scribble. 

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Morning,

Hope everyone is well.

Just to update, I phoned court yesterday to find out if the claimant has written to them. The court said they have not received anything and to call back next week. 

 

The letter I received dated 4th May said the claim is stayed for 4 months and the hearing on the 20th is vacated. 

The claimant had to write within 7 days of the expiry of the stay to inform the court if they wanted the matter to be listed again. 

 

The lady I spoke to at court seemed confused and couldn't confirm if the deadline was from the 4th May or the 20th May when the hearing was vacated. 

 

Just wondered if someone could clarify this as from my working out she had until 11th September.

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If it’s unclear generally go with the earlier date (so as you point out 11 September).


Just bear in mind that courts are running huge backlogs of correspondence at the moment (some as much as 3 or 4 weeks behind).

 

Does the Court order say what will happen if there is no response by the deadline? 

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Hi, Thanks for the reply. Yes they said they was a few days behind when I rung. I will ring again Friday. 

The order doesn't say anything if theres no response from her.

Also if theres no response will I be able to claim my costs back? 

 

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Could she not check if it had been re listed...you would have received notification if it had......I dont expect that she has informed the court.


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11 minutes ago, Andyorch said:

Could she not check if it had been re listed...you would have received notification if it had......I dont expect that she has informed the court.


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 Agree she hasn’t written to Court. 
 

If Keek writes to her she’ll probably pull her finger out and write to court and the hearing will he relisted (or she might even call the police again and spout more rubbish about being harassed).
 

If he does nothing I expect the court and the claimant will do nothing and the claim will just be stayed until someone at court gets round to doing something (and they’ll probably issue an unless order). This could be months.
 

If he writes to the Court asking for the claim to be struck out due to lack of response from the claimant, the court will tell him to make an application which will cost money and delay things even more (and if an application does get listed and heard the end result will likely be the claim being listed for another hearing).


I’m not sure what to do. 

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Do nothing...its for the claimant to proceed..as per the last order above.

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So even if she has missed the deadline it can still be relisted? Would she have to start the process again from the beginning? 

I thought once the stay had expired that would be the end of it.

If she does nothing where would I stand in claiming back the fees and expenses? Would they just be wrote off? 

 

Thank you for the replies.

 

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No.... if she has failed to inform them to relist...the claim will remain stayed and if she wishes to proceed then she will have to make application to lift the stay...more expense.

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Hi any updates to the above...?

 

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Hi Andy, sorry for the late reply didn't have notifications turned on. 

No not heard anything. Bit of a loss on what to do now. 

Am I able to claim to get my court fees and expenses back? 

Thanks for checking in, much appreciated. 

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Check with the local county court what the status is.....I would assumed it stayed and why your at it ask about your costs.

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Just rang the court. She said the claim is still stayed but she is going to get the file out and put it in front of the judge as the claimant hasn't been in touch. 

 

She didn't know how to advise me on recovering my costs and told me to seek legal advice. 

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Okay so as thought......well lets see what the DJ directs next and we can address the costs element then. Better to keep an eye on matters rather than go along not knowing what is happening  and the uncertainty that goes along with it. 

 

 

 

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Please do......its important for users that topics do not simply dry up.

 

With regards to the DJ directions he may simply relist it and give her a final opportunity to comply with the order dated 4th May 2020

or simply dismiss the claim......at that stage you will then have an option to make application for a Costs Order. I m not sure how much success you will have given that this is small claims track and costs are fixed.....but as your costs have arouse due to applications and set a side and expenses incurred in defending this claim..there may be some award.

 

If you get chance I would start to prepare your list of costs in dealing with this from your initial application N244.

 

 

 

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Morning, 

phoned the court this morning. The claim was put back In front if the judge yesterday. 

He has ordered a direction's hearing for May 4th via telephone.

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Surprised he is prepared to put up with more of this nonsense .....he can only allow so much leniency with a claimant.. 

 

 

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Thanks Andy

Your right, it is nonsense! 

 

At the directions hearing would I be able to ask to have it struck out? 

She missed the last deadline and made no effort to contact the court. Surely he can't give her another chance, its madness.

 

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Direction Hearings are not really the place to request that kind of Order and of course any Order must be backed up by an application and statement as to why you seek the order.

 

Bide your time I would assume his tether is now running short....and any further none compliance will signify the end is nigh for this claimant. 

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Morning, 

Just to update, I had the telephone directions hearing this morning.

 

She told the judge the independent expert we chose will not attend now. She said they had put a trace on me whatever that means. She couldn't explain why they wouldn't attend and I have not received any correspondence from them as to a reason why. 

 

The judge said she could use her own expert.

 

Her expert is an electrician he does not install cctv equipment therefore not an expert. He is also a family friend of the claimant.

I raised my concerns with the judge regarding this he said he would deal with it at the hearing. 

He said I could be my own expert. 

The hearing will be booked for after 21st June at the claimants property. 

 

 

 

 

 

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