TPS/BW ANPR PCN - Company Car - Brighton Road Retail Park, Redhill, RH1 6QL ***Statute Barred***

[darrenham]

I've had a reply.

Beginning to get a little worried that they're not just sending me automated responses now.

Can anyone advise please?

bwlegal21102021.pdf

 

I've re-read the thread actually and I'm guessing, as before, the next move is not mine.

[dx100uk]

the snotty letters are doing their job then.

 

what crap they write.

 

dx

 

[darrenham]

By the by, I did what others suggested earlier and asked the friendly local planning persons about the signage and got the attached.

 

I'm not convinced personally, but don't know enough to press her further.

Planning Not Required.pdf

[dx100uk]

which ofcourse is bs.

 

 

[darrenham]

I've gone back to her and asked for proof of planning for signage, ANPR and the 120min limit.

[dx100uk]

open

[darrenham]

Have had a new Letter Of Claim (attached).

 

I've also put together my own snotty letter below (any comments positive or negative would be appreciated so I know I'm doing the right thing).

 

Quote

 

Dear Rachael and Sean,

 

Thanks for your third Letter of Claim.  It’s always a pleasure to hear from you.

 

I’ll repeat that your pursuing this issue further would only heap further embarrassment on you and the businesses unfortunate to have you represent them.

 

I appreciate it’s time to feed the unicorn again, but I’m afraid I’m not willing to donate £54 towards the cause.

 

As mentioned on both previous occasions, I strongly advise you and your clients reconsider this course of action given the significant likelihood of your losing.  The unreasonable costs order under CPR 27.14(2)(g) alone would be worth the day out.  I wouldn’t mind a skiing break on the TPS/BWL-dime though.

 

Thanks again,

 

 

2022_09_06 16_18 Office Lens.pdf

[FTMDave]

Looks good to me.

 

See you've worked out the exact amount of the Unicorn Food Tax too - well done!

[darrenham]

May have just re-worded that from someone else's kind offer of a SL the first time round... 

[darrenham]

I have a reply to my latest snotty letter.

 

Ignore I assume?

 

I've also had the below response to more pressure on the planning people:

 

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As per my email dated the 30^th July 2021, this enforcement investigation was brought to a close as the Local Authority cannot assist further on the matter.

 

ANPR cameras are classified as adverts on enclosed land, and therefore would be excluded from Local Authority Control.  Under this exclusion class also falls any road signage as defined in section 64(1) of the Road

Traffic Regulation Act 1984), which some of these signs would be.

 

They don't seem to want to help.

response to sl 20-09-22.pdf

[FTMDave]

Yes, ignore.  You've challenged them to do their worst - yet all they are doing is making you open envelopes.

 

Good to see that BW Legal are annoyed with you copying letters to TPS.  They don't like being undermined.  Well done there.

 

The council I see are as much use as a dead hedgehog.  The fact still remains that the fleecers don't have PP which is a crime.

 

 

[darrenham]

Thank you.

 

Is it your expectation that this will just continue in a cyclical nature ad infinitum?

[dx100uk]

just dont move without telling them in 6yrs from date of pcn

 

dx

 

[darrenham]

I think I'd do well to move house before January next year... 

 

Just for future ref as much as anything else, I've done a highly professional document showing the signs as they were at the time.

 

The outside sign is literally on the junction and one would definitely not have had chance to read it, that's if you even noticed it was there (I genuinely don't think I did, as I'm quite the rule-follower and would try to avoid the faff where possible).

 

The inside signs are too small to read from Google Streetview, even though the car drove around the whole carpark in Jun 2017 and again in 2020, which says to me you'd need to be looking for them, I wasn't, I was looking to get into halfords to buy my replacement headlight bulb.

Redhill Halfords Signs.pdf

[FTMDave]

6 hours ago, darrenham said:

Thank you.

 

Is it your expectation that this will just continue in a cyclical nature ad infinitum?

It seems so.

 

A Letter of Claim is the end of the correspondence process.  At that point the PPC either give up or take you to court.  Yet is seems that TPS don't have the gonads to do court but every few months bung Rachel & Sean a few quid to send you the same letter again.  Maybe they're trying to bore you into paying up

 

Well done with the photos.  Very useful on the off-chance that TPS ever do do court.

[darrenham]

Having seen the success a SAR (and associated LoC when they screw up) can have, and in the assumption that 6 years from the pcn (Jan 23) is the end of all this, should I put a cheeky SAR into TPS at some point? Or should I keep that in my back pocket? 

[dx100uk]

i'd pers not.

they would HAVe to disclose everything If it ever went to court anyway.

 

the most important thing to always ensure, and not just concerning this escape, is to always ensure any credit you last used/paid within say 7yrs , the owner of such, is updated should you ever move.

 

the typical cry we see here is a backdoor CCJ , because the above was not done.

 

the letters of claim on debts becoming near to SB date, is to gain as much interest as they can, on a last gasp attempt guessing the OP has moved, if they have then = guaranteed CCJ, max profit, for little outlay.

 

roboclaims made through northants bulk (some 750'000 every year) never ever see a human being, 85% go uncontested. money, money, money.

 

dx

 

 

 

[darrenham]

Cheers dx, I have no plans on moving for several years and if/when I do I'll ensure to let the idiots know. 

[FTMDave]

Any update here?  I ask as we have someone who has just got the Letter of Claim from these clowns.

Edited October 19, 2023 by FTMDave
Petty, unnecessary edit reversed

[darrenham]

Nope, they've left me alone entirely since the last update here.

[FTMDave]

Thanks for coming on and letting us know.

[dx100uk]

well they have 6yrs 

[darrenham]

Which, for me, has passed as of Jan this year. 

I've known you all longer than some of my real friends! 

Thank you for your help, may still be needed in my other threads and if I can help anyone else in return I will! 

Edited October 19, 2023 by darrenham

[dx100uk]

well thats why then..its now statute barred..

[lookinforinfo]

Well they tried everything they could short of taking you to court to get you to pay up. And you didn't . So well done for standing up to them and not giving in,

There is a possibility that BWLegal might start chasing you just before early January. This is because their maths isn't that good and 2024 minus 2017 is six years according to their calculations. No doubt it will be a pleasure for you to sign off with them that the Statute of Limitations passed lat year.