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    • just to be clear here..... the DVLA do not send letters if a drivers licence address differs from any car's V5C that shows the same driver as it's registered keeper.
    • sorry she is a private individual, the cars are parking on her land. she can clamp the cars. only firms were outlawed from doing it bazza. thats what the victims of people dumping cars on their drives near airports did and they didn't not get prosecuted.    
    • The DVLA keeps two records of you. One as a driver and one for your car. If they differ you might find out in around a month when they will send you a reminder as well as to your other half for their car. If you receive nothing then you can be fairly sure that you were tailgating though wouldn't explain why they didn't pick up your car on one of drive past their cameras. However even if you do get a PCN later then your situation will not change. The current PCN does not comply with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4 which is the main law that covers private parking. It doesn't comply for two reasons. 1. Section 9 [2][a] states  (2)The notice must— (a)specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates; The PCN states 47 minutes which are the arrival and departure times not the time you were actually parked. if you subtract the time you took to drive from the entrance. look for a parking place  park in it perhaps having to manoeuvre a couple of times to fit within the lines and unload the children reloading the children getting seat belts on  driving to the exit stopping for cars pedestrians on the way you may well find that the actual time you were parked was quite likely to be around ten minutes over the required time.  Motorists are allowed a MINIMUM of ten minutes Grace period [something that the rogues in the parking industry conveniently forget-the word minimum] . So it could be that you did not overstay. 2] Sectio9 [2][f]  (ii)the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver, the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Your PCN does not include the words in brackets and in 2a the Act included the word "must". Another fail. What those failures mean is that MET cannot transfer the liability to pay the charge from the driver to the keeper. Only the driver is now liable which is why we recommend our members not to appeal. It is so easy to reveal who was driving by saying "when I parked the car" than "when the driver parked the car".  As long as they don't know who was driving they have little chance of winning in court. This is partly because Courts do not accept that the driver and the keeper are the same person. And because anyone with a valid motor insurance policy is able to drive your cars. It is a shame that you are too far away to get photos of the car park signage. It is often poor and quite often the parking rogues lose in Court on their poor signage alone. I hope hat you can now relax and not panic about the PCN. You will receive many letters from Met, their unregulated debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors threatening you with ever higher amounts of money. The poor dears have never read the Act which states quite clearly that the maximum sum that can be charged is the amount on the signs. The Act has only been in force for 12 years so it may take a  few more years for the penny to drop.  You can safely ignore everything they send you unless or until they send you a Letter of Claim. Just come back to us if they do send one of those love letters to you and we will advise on a snotty letter to send them. In the meantime go on and enjoy your life. Continue reading other threads and if you do get any worrying letters let us know. 
    • Hopefully the ANPR cameras didn't pick up the two vehicles, but I don't think you're out of the woods just yet. MET's "work" consists of sending out hundreds of these invoices every week so yours might be a few days behind your partner's. There is also the matter of Royal Mail.  I once sold two second-hand books to someone on eBay.  Weirdly the cost of sending them separately was less than the cost of sending them in one parcel.  So to save a few bob I sent them seperately.  One turned up the next day.  One arrived after four days.  They were  sent from the same post office at the same time! But let's hope I'm being too pessimistic. Please update us of any developments.
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I agree with you CD that it does not matter whether they are confirmed as being under 18 years of age. The UK has a great humanitarian reputation and allowing refugees to join their family already in the UK, is something that was right for government to organise.

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My point is being able to know who these people are and that proper checks are made, I would be taking, photographs, dental records, fingerprints and rigid confirmation of age. I am not against assisting those in genuine need but the system is being abused and ordinary people are sick and downright tired of it..

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Not possible. No dental checks or other tests would reveal age. They are relying on what they have been told by the children and their families already in the UK.

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Dental checks and the like could help to assist identity. The age thing is a separate issue..

 

No they could not. They don't come from countries where there will be records easily obtainable. Many probably have never seen a dentist.

 

As for identifying them later on, only if they are found dead or they bite someone leaving a perfect imprint.

 

I doubt that DNA samples are being taken, as part of a refugee process.

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Yes they could, if no dental records are available then records could at least be started as part of any application to come into the UK. The other thing is I find it hard to believe that minors are travelling all the way to Calais on there own without adult assistance..

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Bone scans of the growth plates would give some idea of the child's age, the pictures I have seen so far of these 'children' makes me think some are not being honest with their ages!

Also why no female children being put forward to come to the UK?

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You can tell the age of an individual by their teeth as they are still develping in juveniles. Determining age is fairly standard practice with maturity of wisdom teeth as an example

 

But some like myself never developed wisdom teeth!

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They are not criminals and should not be regarded as such

 

Since we are unable to prove who they really are or even how old they are, I am not sure how you can be confident that they are not criminals.

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Bone density gives a good idea of individual's age and it's not invasive.

Would you be happy if your children in secondary school were in the same class as a 20 something man???

Once again, human rights of potential victims don't exist, only those of potential criminals.

I don't see what problem checking their age would create.

If they are genuine children they should be up for it, I would.

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"A refugee child? Are you sure? Check their teeth". What on earth have we become?

 

Under the Children Act 1989 the UK regards a person a child until they reach their 18th birthday, and not the rhetoric of the Sun, Mail or Express

 

I can't see anything in the act which says that someone who looks 30 and claims of being 15 cannot be tested for safety and security reasons.

The point is that maybe, and only maybe, some of these children are not children but adults claiming to be , exploiting the UK fear of being politically incorrect.

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After further investigation the older "children" or young men were actually interpretors. The hate tirade of the Sun, Express and Mail were never strong on facts, just stirring up hate!

 

People need to be ashamed of themselves spreading this garbage

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After further investigation the older "children" or young men were actually interpretors. The hate tirade of the Sun, Express and Mail were never strong on facts, just stirring up hate!

 

People need to be ashamed of themselves spreading this garbage

 

And the innocence of some is shocking.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/18/two-thirds-of-child-refugees-entering-uk-found-to-be-adults-figu/?WT.mc_id=e_DM172981&WT.tsrc=email&etype=Edi_FAM_New_AEM_Recipient&utm_source=email&utm_medium=Edi_FAM_New_AEM_Recipient_2016_10_19&utm_campaign=DM172981

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“Currently Government advice is that they need to give these people the benefit of the doubt and that needs to change.

 

“When I went to Calais there were caravans with notices on how to get coaching on what to say if you need to get into Britain. So I am very concerned about this.

 

“I’m all for helping innocent children but it is completely ridiculous if we are just going to allow people in based on what they tell us.”

 

 

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/18/two-thirds-of-child-refugees-entering-uk-found-to-be-adults-figu/?WT.mc_id=e_DM172981&WT.tsrc=email&etype=Edi_FAM_New_AEM_Recipient&utm_source=email&utm_medium=Edi_FAM_New_AEM_Recipient_2016_10_19&utm_campaign=DM172981

 

I would imagine that some of the migrants have genuinely lost their papers, however , as I understand it - many of them are deliberately destroying any ID in order to prevent deportation.

 

It is quite wrong to allow those lying about their age, to come into the UK as a minor when they are not.

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I would imagine that some of the migrants have genuinely lost their papers, however , as I understand it - many of them are deliberately destroying any ID in order to prevent deportation.

 

It is quite wrong to allow those lying about their age, to come into the UK as a minor when they are not.

 

CitizenB, how dare you alleging that that there are people lying about their age just to enter and remain in UK.

Surely this has never happened and never will.

Just hope the two prolific brexit posters don't see your post or you'll be sent to work in a mine for the rest of your days 😂

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No, the default position is that because we do not know for certain then checks to confirm the facts are needed..

 

So the default position is that we treat them with dignity and let them stay.

 

I find your comments on this and other threads increasingly disturbing, surely the whole purpose of this forum is to offer free friendly advice to those in need and to those who cannot afford such advice, I am worried that some here appear to operate against that ethos.

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