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    • no i meant the email from parcel2go which email address did they send it from and who signed it off (whos name is at the bottom)
    • I understand confusion with this thread.  I tried to keep threads separate because there have been so many angles.    But a team member merged them all.  This is why it's hard to keep track. This forum exists to help little people fight injustice - however big or small.  Im here to try get a decent resolution. Not to give in to the ' big boys'. My "matter' became complicated 'matters' simply because a lender refused to sell a property. What can I say?  I'll try in a nutshell to give an overview: There's a long lease property. I originally bought it short lease with a s.146 on it from original freeholder.  I had no concerns. So lender should have been able to sell a well-maintained lovely long lease property.  The property was great. The issue is not the property.  Economy, sdlt increases, elections, brexit, covid, interest hikes etc didn't help.  The issue is simple - the lender wanted to keep it.   House or Flat? Before repo I offered to clear my loan.  I was a bit short and lender refused.  They said (recorded) they thought the property was worth much more and they were happy to keep accruing interest (in their benefit) until it reached a point where they felt they could repo and still easily quickly sell to get their £s back.  This was a mistake.  The market was (and is) tough.   2y later the lender ceo bid the same sum to buy the property for himself. He'd rejected higher offers in the intervening period whilst accruing interest. Lenders have a legal obligation to sell the property for the best price they can get. If they feel the offer is low they won't sell it, because it's likely the borrower will say the same. I had the property under offer to a fantastic niche buyer but lender rushed to repo and buyer got spooked and walked.  It had taken a long time to find such a lucrative buyer.  A sale which would have resulted in £s and another asset for me. Post repo lender had 1 offer immediately.  But dragged out the process for >1y - allegedly trying to get other offers. But disclosure shows there was only one valid buyer. Again, points as above. Lender appointed receiver (after 4 months) - simply to try acquire the freehold.  He used his powers as receiver to use me, as leaseholder, to serve notice on freeholders.  Legally that failed. Meanwhile lender failed to secure property - and squatters got in (3 times).  And they failed to maintain it.  So freeholders served a dilapidations notice (external) - on me as leaseholder (cc-ed to lender).   (That's how it works legally) Why serve a delapidations notice? If it's in the terms of the lease to maintain the property to a good standard, then serve an S146 notice instead as it's a clear breach of the lease. I don't own the freehold.  But I am a trustee and have to do right by the freeholders.  This is where matters got/ get complicated.  And probably lose most caggers.   Lawyers got involved for the freeholders to firstly void the receiver enfranchisement notice. Secondly, to serve the dilapidations notice.  The lack of maintenance was in breach of lease and had to be served to protect fh asset. Enfranchisement isn't something that can be "voided", it's in the Leasehold Reform Act 1967 that leaseholders have the right to buy the freehold of the property. It's normal, whether it is a "normal" leaseholder or a repossession with a leasehold house, to claim this right of enfranchisement and sell the property with said rights attached and the purchase price of the freehold included in the final completion price. That's likely what the mortgage provider wished to do. The lender did no repairs. They said a buyer would undertake them. Which was probably correct. If they had sold. After 1y lender finally agreed to sell to the 1st offeror and contracts went with lawyers.  Within 1 month lender reneged.  Lender tried to suggest buyer walked. Evidence shows he/ his lawyers continued trying to exchange (cash) for 4 months.  Evidence shows lender and receiver strategy had been to renege and for ceo to take control.   I still think that's their plan. Redact and scan said evidence up for others to look at? Lender then stupidly chose to pretty much bulldoze the property.  Other stuff was going on in the background. After repo I was in touch by phone and email and lender knew post got to me.   Despite this, after about 10 months (before and then during covid), they deliberately sent SDs and eventually a B petition to an incorrect address and an obscure small court.  They never served me properly.  (In hindsight I understand they hoped to get a backdoor B - so they could keep the property that way.)  Eventually the random court told them to email me by way of service.  At this point their ruse to make me B failed.  I got a lawyer (friend paid). The B petition was struck out. They’d failed to include the property as an asset. They were in breach of insolvency rules. So this is dealt with then. Simultaneously the receiver again appointed lawyers to act on my behalf as leaseholder. This time to serve notice on the freeholders for a lease extension.  He had hoped to try and vary the strict lease. Evidence shows the already long length of lease wasn't an issue.  The lender obviously hoped to get round their lack of permission to do works (which they were already doing) by hoping to remove the strict clauses that prevent leaseholder doing alterations.  You wouldn't vary a lease through a lease extension. You'd need a Deed of Variation for that. This may be done at the same time but the lease has already been extended once and that's all they have a right to. The extension created a new legal angle for me to deal with.  I had to act as trustee for freeholders against me as leaseholder/ the receiver.  Inconsistencies and incompetence by receiver lawyers dragged this out 3y.  It still isn't properly resolved. The lease has already been extended once so they have no right to another extension. It seems pretty easy to just get the lawyer to say no and stick by those terms as the law is on your side there. Meanwhile - going back to the the works the lender undertook. The works were consciously in breach of lease.  The lender hadn't remedied the breaches listed in the dilapidations notice.  They destroyed the property.  The trustees compiled all evidence.  The freeholders lawyers then served a forfeiture notice. This notice started a different legal battle. I was acting for the freeholders against what the lender had done on my behalf as leaseholder.  This legal battle took 3y to resolve. Again, order them to revert it as they didn't have permission to do the works, or else serve an S146 notice for breach of the lease. The simple exit would have been for lender to sell. A simple agreement to remedy the breaches and recompense the freeholders in compensation - and there's have been clean title to sell.  That option was proposed to them.   This happened by way of mediation for all parties 2y ago.  A resolution option was put forward and in principle agreed.  But immediately after the lender lawyers failed to engage.  A hard lesson to learn - mediation cannot be referred to in court. It's considered w/o prejudice. The steps they took have made no difference to their ability to sell the property.  Almost 3y since they finished works they still haven't sold. ** ** I followed up some leads myself.  A qualified cash buyer offered me a substantial sum.  The lender and receiver both refused it.   I found another offer in disclosure.  6 months later someone had apparently offered a substantial sum via an agent.  The receiver again rejected it.  The problem of course was that the agent had inflated the market price to get the business. But no-one was or is ever going to offer their list price.  Yet the receiver wanted/wants to hold out for the list price.  Which means 1y later not only has it not sold - disclosure shows few viewings and zero interest.  It's transparently over-priced.  And tarnished. For those asking why I don't give up - I couldn't/ can't.  Firstly I have fiduciary duties as a trustee. Secondly, legal advice indicates I (as leaseholder) could succeed with a large compensation claim v the lender.  Also - I started a claim v my old lawyer and the firm immediately reimbursed some £s. That was encouraging.  And a sign to continue.  So I'm going for compensation.  I had finance in place (via friend) to do a deal and take the property back off the lender - and that lawyer messed up bad.   He should have done a deal.  Instead further years have been wasted.   Maybe I only get back my lost savings - but that will be a result.   If I can add some kind of complaint/ claim v the receiver's conscious impropriety I will do so.   I have been left with nothing - so fighting for something is worth it. The lender wants to talk re a form of settlement.  Similar to my proposal 2y ago.  I have a pretty clear idea of what that means to me.  This is exactly why I do not give up.  And why I continue to ask for snippets of advice/ pointers on cag.  
    • It was all my own work based on my previous emails to P2G which Bank has seen.
    • I was referring to #415 where you wrote "I was forced to try to sell - and couldn't." . And nearer the start in #79 .. "I couldn't sell.  I had an incredibly valuable asset. Huge equity.  But the interest accrued / the property market suffered and I couldn't find a buyer even at a level just to clear the debt." In #194 you said you'd tried to sell for four years.  The reason for these points is that a lot of the claims against for example your surveyor, solicitor, broker, the lender and now the receiver are mainly founded in a belief that they should have been able to do something but did not. Things that might seem self evident to you but not necessarily to others. Pressing these claims may well need a bit more hard evidence, rather than an appeal to common sense. Can you show evidence of similar properties, with similar freehold issues, selling readily? And solid reasons why the lender should have been able to sell when you couldn't.
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Hi, this is my first time on this forum. I really need help.

 

Around 4 months ago I was caught using my dad's oyster card which had a monthly season ticket to it.

 

 

Until the ticket inspector told me that day that it was not transferable I had no idea about it.

I realise now how stupid and ignorant that sounds but I really didnt know,

I was under the impression that only photocards were not transferable. :|

 

 

Luckily I have never used my dad's card before as he always had it with him at work etc when I go out.

But unfortunately on this day i used it as he was off from work.

 

Recently I have received a courts summons asking me to plead guilty/not guilty etc.

I am really panicking right now and have around 2 weeks before I have to send the form.

 

 

I have read about out of courts settlement but I'm really not sure what to do and can't think straight.

I've always tried to keep out of trouble for everything and can't believe that I might be getting a criminal conviction because of a foolish mistake.

 

What do I do now, do i ring them up? or write a letter?

Also if I am to write a letter, how should I write it?

 

I am so worried about my future, university offer etc etc right now!

 

 

Any help would be great!!

 

 

Thanks in advance

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you write a simple/short/no waffle grovelling letter

offering to pay all reasonable costs and equiv fines

to protect your good name

as it will ruin your future

 

 

you made a stupid one off silly mistake. etc etc

 

 

and you realise how serious this situation is etc etc

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Thank you.

What are the chances of them agreeing to it? Also is it better if i do it myself or get solicitors? I'm just really confused right now.

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Hello there.

 

Just to add to what dx has said, you could promise never to travel without first buying your own ticket in future.

 

I don't think you need lawyers, very few people do.

 

Given that the case is in two weeks, I'm wondering if maybe you should ring as well. I would rather that one of our industry people confirmed that though. You can continue to negotiate right up to the court day and you can speak to the prosecutor on the day.

 

HB

Illegitimi non carborundum

 

 

 

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Thank you for your reply. I just rang them up, they said that they can't talk about it over the phone and advised me to send in an email. So right now I am trying to put together a convincing letter using the points mentioned above. Here goes!

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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okay so here is my letter, any thoughts will be appreciated.

 

Dear sir/madam,

I wish to bring to your kind attention an important matter and write to request you to consider my application and take an appropriate decision.

 

 

I received some papers from Transport for London whereby I have been requested to complete the plea forms within 21 days and have been asked to plead guilty or not guilty.

 

I would like to respectfully state that I innocently used my father’s travelcard without realising the consequences.

 

 

I was under the wrong impression that I could use it since it was not a photocard.

 

 

I want to take this opportunity to inform you that I am a law abiding person and this is the first instance in which I have made a silly mistake in my life.

I have no previous offences at all.

I understand how foolish and ignorant my actions were and I assure you that I will never do it again.

I am deeply remorseful and upset about what has happened, please forgive me for my mistake.

 

I am 19 years old and have been given an offer from a university to pursue my higher studies.

At this stage any punishment given to me will have far reaching implications and will affect my further studies altogether.

It will also have detrimental effects on my future career.

 

 

As a student who is yet to start my life, I fear the consequences that court action will have on my entire future.

 

I spoke to one of your officers this afternoon with the view to arrive at an out of court settlement for this matter and the officer kindly advised me to send a written request in all the circumstances.

 

 

I will be glad to pay any fare and all administrative costs incurred, therefore can I please ask you to reach an out of court settlement? Please help me.

 

Once again I would like to reiterate that I did not intend to defraud the Transport for London in any manner whatsoever, but unfortunately due to the lapse on my part I have put the TfL officials also to unnecessary inconvenience.

 

 

I unreservedly apologise for my mistake and I earnestly believe that you would be kind enough to accept my apologies and reach an out of court settlement, having considered my unfortunate plight.

 

Please kindly look into this matter and grant me relief.

 

thanks!

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In my humble opinion there is a bit too much waffle. You haven't explained why this was an "innocent mistake" - I would try and convince the reader of this letter why you genuinely thought tickets were transferable. As an adult surely you're aware of basic rules and conditions of train tickets, I would take this to be a normal assumption so you'll need to convince them otherwise.

 

Finally I would never refer to this as a "silly mistake". The TOC aren't treating it as such so I wouldn't recommend you calling it this way; especially as you're now finding this is quite a serious issue for you.

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Thanks for the reply. I tweaked my letter a bit and sent it off. I got a reply in a few hours saying that they have accepted an out of court settlement :D

But now i have another issue. I have been given a ''letter of warning and conditions of withdrawal'' which I have to sign and send back to them.

I am applying for a DBS check for uni and one of the questions is asking me if i have any convictions,cautions,reprimands or final warnings. Does the letter I received from tfl count as a final warning? Should I put yes or no? I have to send in the DBS form asap so any quick advice would be great!

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My undestanding is that cautions, reprimands or final warnings are issued by the police / youth offending teams.

 

Because of this I suspect that it wouldn't need to be disclosed. However, you could disclose it, noting the circumstances, to let them decide.....

Alternatively, don't put it in the main form, but note it in a covering letter.

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hey well done a good result.

 

 

no that letter does not count as anything with regard to uni/jobs/immigration etc etc.

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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nope

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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