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    • yes 85% of people think DCA's are BAILIFFS and wet themselves because they WRONGLY think they can come a knocking and take your stuff away sadly. when in all truth they never can be and have NO legal powers whatsoever. dx
    • Just circling back with a thanks and an apology.   Apologies because, I honestly thought I'd replied to thank everyone and update, but turns out I hadn't. Sorry. So first of all, a big big thanks to the Forum and all those that helped me on this thread, especially @dx100uk and @AndyOrch. The work you do is awesome and I'm sure I'm only one of many who are extremely grateful for your support. So, in terms of a belated update, Moriarty withdrew, well they said ADCB did. So that's a result. Whilst that was a few years back, I still get emails from odd 'agents' locally in UAE - usually at a weekend - or reminders from ADCB. The sums offered by the agents for a settlement are a fraction of the sums that were claimed - like 75% less - so one would presume if one wished to settle, dealing direct with ADCB may be even less. If it helps anyone, what I would say is this. 1) Listen to the advice from the trusted sources on here. They know their onions. 2) It can seem overwhelming to a layman with all this legal jargon, but don't let it scare you. Just take it a step at a time, listen and learn as much as you can from other threads, and trust the process. 3) I was surprised how shambolic Moriarty appeared to be in my case. Don't ever think the other party is above you in terms of knowledge, experience or how they will conduct themselves. Whilst it was during the pandemic, even on the remote calls with the court, in one instance Moriarty didn't even bother attending the call. In other instances, they didn't reply to certain requests I made via court process. Finally, they just give up the ghost, and a few years later I received confirmation of discontinuance. I'm not saying my experience is/was/may be typical, but what I took from it was it simply came down to brinksmanship and them playing the percentages on their part. Play the long game, take good advice, there's nothing to be scared off and if it's anything like my situation, you may well win the day. The longer things went on, the more you will feel you're on the right side. Especially once it gets into all the process, form submission and involvement of the court, stick to your guns and follow the advice.  It's nothing scientific, but if every case was like mine, it seems like these folks have the view that at some point, the defendant will crumble and give in, through fear or otherwise, so it's important to stay brave and keep pushing forward because the further you go, the more it will tilt in your favour. Play a straight bat and the long game. I've now come back to post due to another situation, different debt, and will start a new thread in due course.   So keep your chins up, fight the good fight and good luck to all, and sincere thanks for all the help.  
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its totally wrong

this could be fun in court andy?

 

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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The statement made is based on an agreement that has no connection with the claim...therefore their evidence is invalid and flawed.

Ask the court to force them to disclose the correct agreement or strike the claim out and stop wasting courts time.

 

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Andy,

 

I pointed the paragraph to the judge re the HBSO and even he said something is not right when the debt was with AW/JD he has given me a further court date and I have to do statement requiring further evidence of HBSO as it did not read right?????

 

Maybe you could assist me with this as I am not very good at stating my case,

 

Thanks

 

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Sounds like this judge is on the ball......considering they have submitted the wrong agreement:roll:

 

Why do you have to do a statement ...surely they have to resubmit a fresh statement and a copy of the correct agreement?

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Andy,

 

I will have to wait for further correspondence from the court and then maybe submit a defence again not sure about all this, I will keep you posted.

 

Once again Have a Good One and all the best to you and DX for helping me so far.

 

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Andy,

 

Just received a general form of judgment order from the court stating that parties do file and serve witness statement together with copies of relevant document by 30th Jan 2015.

 

I know I have to file a witness statement and send relevant documents, please could you tell me what I send and what I should put down as my witness statement. I would be very grateful for your time in this matter.

 

Kind regards,

 

Mashmallow

 

 

Happy 2015

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Just adapt your defence into the Witness Statement...add the events from your hearing...state that the claimant has produced an agreement that has no connection with their claim,,,very little you can state in reality since your defence.

 

As for disclosure you just disclose your CPR and CCA requests and responses.

 

I doubt very much that the claimant will respond or disclose...so expect a Notice of Discontinuance before the 30th

 

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Requires a little more work Mash...start by stating who you are and that this is your witness statement as litigant and you will state as follows.......Begin with the claimant issuing a claim dated xxxx for an the alleged debt and then move into the requests you have made CPR/CCA and their responses...then into the hearing and what they produced and what the Judge as stated should be done and disclosed by xxxxxxx.

 

I would go as far as stating that they failed to comply with these directions (I doubt very much they will be able to by the time you submit this WS) and then conclude until such time the claimant can disclose the true agreement in connection with the debt that the court should dismiss this claim and award fixed costs to you the defendant.

 

You must finish a WS with the paragraph " I believe that the contents of this statement are true to the best of my knowledge and belief "

 

Have another go and Ill give it the once over.

 

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Andy,

 

Here is the amended one I hope it is a bit more representable.

 

I await to hear from you

 

Regards

 

Mashmallow

 

Andy sorry for the previous it is the wrong attachment, computer is playing up I will try again.

 

Thanks

 

 

Mashmallow

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Yes and they should recipricate

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Please do mash...redact anything identifiable.

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Original date of account opening was 26/3/07 for the amount of £484.00

 

Hi Mash

 

You will note that they conveniently forget to refer to the date of the agreement within their witness statement ...the reason being that as this is a pre April 2007 a reconstituted version can not be relied upon for enforcement purposes...only in responding to a section 77/78 request...therefore their witness statement is flawed.

 

Did you not enclose payment of the statuary £1.00 payment?

 

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Not really because they have complied anyway...even though its not valid:wink:

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Andy,

 

 

Court date is nearing shall I just tell the Judge what you have told me and hopefully it will get thrown out???? Please let me know, panicking a bit.

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

Mashmallow

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