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You dont do anything...its for the claimant to inform the court if they wish to proceed.

 

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  • 2 weeks later...

My defence was submitted on 2nd June - we are now well past the 28 days - plus some additional days.

 

I have not heard a thing.. should I call the court or just accept as per the letter that this claim is stayed? They are outside the timeline to take action.

 

Oddly enough, I found an unopened letter the other day that was from Arrow Global, sent in April. It was a notice of assignment saying they had passed the debt to Drysden - which seems odd as Drysden FairFax have stated they are the solicitor and when responding to my requests for info said they were trying to obtain this information for their client (arrow).

 

The court paperwork even states that Arrow are the claimant - yet they have told me that they have sold the debt to Drysden?

 

Now that the time has passed - should I look to get this struck out or just leave it?

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"I have not heard a thing.. should I call the court or just accept as per the letter that this claim is stayed? Yes They are outside the timeline to take action."

 

What time line?...they can make application to lift the stay at any time...I have known stayed claims be resurrected after 2 years.

 

On what grounds would you strike it out ? because they have not replied within the 28 day?

 

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By time line I meant the time to respond to my defence before the claim becoming stayed

 

In terms of getting it struck out - I would prefer this did not get resurrected and catch me out later hence I asked if I should get it struck out?

 

If I have no grounds under which to do so - other than their failure to substantiate the claim by proving the debt was owed and the fact it is statute barred then that is the answer I was looking for.

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As it is a matter of litigation and the claim is stayed...I personally would leave it parked..if they wish to resurrect it later and the longer they leave it the more difficult...you simply commence from were you left off.

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As if by magic - when I got home there was a letter waiting for me..

 

enclosing a court document to change solicitor - they also claim to have answered my questions.

 

However, I have NEVER had a Tessera credit card - I also find interesting that this seems to be a mail merged letter as it states my last payment was for 'no payments to this account' on [blank].

 

So is it best for me to write back to Arrow now and resend the CPR & CCA requests - would appreciate input.

 

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As if by magic - when I got home there was a letter waiting for me..

 

enclosing a court document to change solicitor - they also claim to have answered my questions.

 

However, I have NEVER had a Tessera credit card - I also find interesting that this seems to be a mail merged letter as it states my last payment was for 'no payments to this account' on [blank].

 

 

So is it best for me to write back to Arrow now and resend the CPR & CCA requests - would appreciate input.

 

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FWIW:

Tessera are/were ARROW GLOBAL , they are/were a debt buyer.

so yes that letter is rubbish and they know it

 

could this be an old Halifax card?

that used to be the MO on the mystery card debts

 

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I think the card may be Egg

 

Statute Barred? Having done some research (in fact looking at some old posts on here) I last made a payment back in 2008 - but I cannot be sure of the exact date so it is on the cusp.

 

In terms of their response - clearly a standard tosh letter (not even checked it would seem).

 

I want to know if I should respond to them? they have still not complied with the CCA or the CPR and supplied the statements, dates of defaults - intact they have not supplied anything I asked for. I am happy to put together a letter to send to arrow later this evening and post on here for opinions if that is the best way forward.

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As if by magic - when I got home there was a letter waiting for me..

 

enclosing a court document to change solicitor - they also claim to have answered my questions.

 

However, I have NEVER had a Tessera credit card - I also find interesting that this seems to be a mail merged letter as it states my last payment was for 'no payments to this account' on [blank].

 

So is it best for me to write back to Arrow now and resend the CPR & CCA requests - would appreciate input.

 

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pers I wouldn't be replying to them.

 

no agreement nor paperwork syndrome.

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi - feedback needed please.

 

I have drafted the following letter to send to Arrow and will enclose copies of the two letters (CPR & CCA) sent to their former solicitor.

 

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Dear Sir or Madam

 

Ref: XXXXXXX

 

Thank you for your letter dated 02/07/14, the contents of which are noted.

 

Following the information provided in you letter I still remain unable to identify this account – having never held a Tessera Credit Card or entered into any credit agreement with them.

 

I refer to my two letters sent to your former solicitor Drysden FairFax (copies of which are enclosed) neither of which has been complied with.

 

This includes the disclosure and production of a verified and legible copy of each of the following documents mentioned in the particulars of your claim:

 

1) The agreement

2) The notice of assignment

3) The default notice

4) The termination notice

5) Statement of account

 

In addition, a true copy of the agreement was also requested pursuant to s.77/78 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 together with other documentation the Act requires you to provide.

 

I acknowledge your attempt to provide information in your letter dated 02/07/14, however, this fails to provide the information requested and even says that the last payment made to the account was for “No payments on the account!” and with no date provided either.

 

Therefore I have no intention to withdraw my defence as this debt remains vague as you have failed comply with your obligation to provide the information requested that forms the basis of your claim.

 

Yours sincerely

 

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Hi - feedback needed please.

 

I have drafted the following letter to send to Arrow and will enclose copies of the two letters (CPR & CCA) sent to their former solicitor.

 

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Dear Sir or Madam

 

Ref: XXXXXXX

 

Thank you for your letter dated 02/07/14, the contents of which are noted.

 

Following the information provided in you letter I still remain unable to identify this account – having never held a***** Tessera Credit Card ******or entered into any credit agreement with them.

 

I refer to my two letters sent to your former solicitor Drysden FairFax (copies of which are enclosed) neither of which has been complied with.

 

This includes the disclosure and production of a verified and legible copy of each of the following documents mentioned in the particulars of your claim:

 

1) The agreement

2) The notice of assignment

3) The default notice

4) The termination notice

5) Statement of account

 

In addition, a true copy of the agreement was also requested pursuant to s.77/78 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 together with other documentation the Act requires you to provide.

 

I acknowledge your attempt to provide information in your letter dated 02/07/14, however, this fails to provide the information requested and even says that the last payment made to the account was for “No payments on the account!” and with no date provided either.

 

Therefore I have no intention to withdraw my defence as this debt remains vague as you have failed comply with your obligation to provide the information requested that forms the basis of your claim.

 

Yours sincerely

 

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I am aware that Tessera are a DCA - so I fail to see how they can obtain any form of judgement with such poor information and no proof at all. Shocking really - that just anyone could make a claim and if you do not respond judgement is issued by default.

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Edited the letter slightly for clarity and effect:

Dear Sir or Madam

 

Ref: XXXXXXX

 

Thank you for your letter dated 02/07/14, the contents of which are noted.

 

Following the information provided in you letter I still remain unable to identify this account – having never into any credit agreement with Tessera.

 

I refer to my two letters sent to your former solicitor Drysden FairFax (copies of which are enclosed). They failed to reply satisfactorily to either.

 

This includes the disclosure of a verified and legible copy of each of the following documents mentioned in the particulars of your claim:

 

1) The agreement

2) The notice of assignment

3) The default notice

4) The termination notice

5) Statement of account

 

In addition, a true copy of the agreement was also requested pursuant to s.77/78 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 together with other documentation the Act requires you to provide.

 

I acknowledge your attempt to provide information in your letter dated 02/07/14, however, this fails to provide the information requested and even says that the last payment made to the account was for “No payments on the account!” and with no date provided either.

 

Therefore I have no intention of withdrawing my defence as your particulars of claim remain vague, and you have failed comply with your legal obligations to disclose documentation.

 

Should the matter proceed, I shall of course bring your unreasonable behaviour to the attention of the Court.

 

Yours sincerely

 

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Your sorted for now then zippy :wink:

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  • 1 month later...

Received a letter today - accompanied by a notice of discontinuance!!!

 

So hopefully all dealt with - although they do add in the letter

 

"We confirm that your account has been closed, however, please note that this does not mean the debt is written off, purely that we have made the decision not to proceed with the claim. The debt still remains due and owing and we will continue to record the default on your credit record until such time as the debt has been settled or paid in full"

 

Bit confused by this bit as there is no default on my credit record (due to age if debt)

 

Must thank the mods on here for their help!!

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and another one bites the dust!

 

just ensure in a few days the court HAS received it and it IS discontinued

 

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Very nice Zippy...well done.

 

Thread title amended to reflect the outcome.

 

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Received a letter today - accompanied by a notice of discontinuance!!!

 

So hopefully all dealt with - although they do add in the letter

 

"We confirm that your account has been closed, however, please note that this does not mean the debt is written off, purely that we have made the decision not to proceed with the claim. The debt still remains due and owing and we will continue to record the default on your credit record until such time as the debt has been settled or paid in full"

 

Bit confused by this bit as there is no default on my credit record (due to age

 

 

if debt)

 

Must thank the mods on here for their help!!

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