Shoplifting caught at sainsburys

[stevensmart]

I have been caught as Shoplifting in my local sainsburys....I promise it is my first time and something really mad must be happening in my mind...I am so regretted....The shop manager did not call the police and told me it will go through civil recovery and I will be receiving a fine of 150 pounds.

 

I am wondering whether the civil recovery will leave any record? will it effect my future visa application or job application? I am still a student...I really do not want to have this known to everyone....

 

Please please give me some advice.....I have seen some other post in the forum that if I pay the civil recovery, will the case be ended? will they ask for more?

[stevensmart]

Please give me some help....I could eat or sleep ever since.....

[Sparks_]

Civil recovery cannot fine you, its a speculative invoice and you dont have to pay this, the guys will be along later to help you more, also as they didnt call the police there will be no record of this at all.

[rebel11]

Hi steve

 

Welcome to CAG

 

It's an invoice, it's not a fine. They did not call the police at the time, so it is very unlikely there will be any police involvement. Civil Recovery involves sending you lots of letters in the hope of bullying you into paying. They are just speculative invoices. Get some sleep, if you get any letters just post an update on this thread.

[stevensmart]

Thanks for the quick reply. But the manager took my name and address......he told me that although they did not call the police, but they will pass on my information nationally to all sainsburys stores, this time is a warning and next time will call the police. If I do not pay their civil recovery bill. Will they change mind and contact police again, since they have my name and address? I am so worried to leave any bad record for this and the least thing I want to is to speak to a police and make a record for this.....

 

Another thing I am worry about is that if I do pay their civil recovery bill, will this case be ended? Or they will ask more?

[rebel11]

Hi steven

 

'If I do not pay their civil recovery bill. Will they change mind and contact police again' - very, very unlikely. They have not lost any stock.

What they are trying to recover from you is staffing costs, security costs extra, but they can't justify those.

 

 

'since they have my name and address? I am so worried to leave any bad record for this and the least thing I want to is to speak to a police and make a record for this.....' - very, very unlikely that you will speak to the police about this.

 

There are lots of threads on this site on Civil Recovery, read them.

[stevensmart]

Thanks, rebel11. If I pay the bill, will the case end?

[stevensmart]

I just could not stop thinking about it.....I really want it to end...

[honeybee13]

Thanks, rebel11. If I pay the bill, will the case end?

 

Hello there.

 

Paying doesn't necessarily stop RLP or civil recovery people, sadly. We've seen people here pursued for more money. It doesn't mean they'll involve the police though.

 

The best strategy is to learn from this and move one. Don't shoplift again, but don't pay any speculative invoices either.

 

HB

[rebel11]

Have you read what Citizen Advice say about Civil Recovery?

 

Thanks, rebel11. If I pay the bill, will the case end?

[stevensmart]

rebel11, No, I have not.... where do I find it?

[rebel11]

http://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/unr...ands_final.pdf

 

 

rebel11, No, I have not.... where do I find it?

[stevensmart]

Usually how long will I need to wait to receive the letter for civil recovery bill?

[rebel11]

Hi Luke

 

They print zillions, depends where you are in the queue, I would say a couple of weeks, then they send another one, then another one, don't take fright, just post details on here, so we can advise you further.

 

Usually how long will I need to wait to receive the letter for civil recovery bill?

[stevensmart]

rebel11, honeybee13, Sparks_ Many thanks you so much for all your advice! I will post more details when I received their letter.

[stevensmart]

One thing I would like to add is: when I get caught, they did not call the police nor ask me sign any document, only asked my name and address written on a blank paper. But the manager did say they will send me a civil recovery letter of 150 pounds.

 

When I read other post, for civil recovery, do they normally ask people to sign a form at least?

 

I was taken to the manager's office, I do not know whether there is CCTV or voice recorder in the room (I have not been told by them I will be recorded).

 

For the worst case, if i do not pay the civil recovery and been asked to go to a court or the police been asked to get involved, will they be able to make decision based on the evidence they have? Will there be any bad record been left even if I win the case? I am still a student, so I am really care about the record as it will effect when I look for jobs......

[ericsbrother]

No they dont always make you sign a form as the claim from PLP is baseless so there isnt a form that complaies with anything to fill in.

The police havent been involved and wont be, this is not about the legal process but about you being told that something very nastly will happen if you dont pay up which is just not true.

You may well start t get begging letters 9however they are worded, that is all they are) but you can ignore them as they have no place in judisprudence.