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Hi esmerobbo

 

How do i PM you ?

 

I'll send you my appeal with photos etc

 

And scans of the invoices, ticket and letters

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Sorry me again I've went to PM esmerobbo

Dont see any way of attaching docs or scans Managed to do it on here with Go Advanced

 

Cant see that option sorry for being thick

 

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Jus upload them to somewhere like photobucket and send the link by pm.

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Oh dear oh dear ANPR have given you a code XXX3193ZZZ todays code would be XXX3483ZZZ that is 29 days POPLA has timed out.

 

I have looked over your POPLA appeal it waffles a bit but you hit all the points to win.

 

However POPLA won't accept it!

 

You have the dated letter and the envelope with the post date to prove they have been deceitful it needs to be brought to the BPA's and the DVLA's attention that this company is acting way out of line.

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Hi

 

Yes that was my thoughs .I'll copy the ANPR letter with the popla code on it and send that as well, pointing out the ANPR way of doning things !maybe they'll be full of christmas cheer and allow it .If not they'll be full of Something else

 

I've see some of these rejection letter's from ANPR with the code disguised as a verification number to contact ANPR with ..But they seem to be sending the rejection letter with nothing now

 

No doubt the POPLA drones will be on "Computer says no"

 

Any one got names to complain to at BPA and DVLA

 

I suppose after that it's sit back and wait ,Should i be writing to ANPR to tell them put up or shut up

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Nah you will win at POPLA with the genuine loss, I had a quick look on street view at the location is it were the Barclays bank is? If so it must be a honey pot for them especially when they were allowed to clamp. The signs are up on the first floor walls.

 

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I wouldnt worry about whether you win or not, it is the Code of Practice being followed that is important, you have done the right thing and they havent. That will count for a lot should the goons actually want to take it further and I dont think they will as it would be financial suicide so start issuing CC summonses after committing fraud.

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You wont need to win, and if I was a betting man I would wager that they just drop this. If they were stupid enough to go near a court with this I suspect their representative would be going home with one more backside then they arrived at court with.

 

Remember who you are dealing with these are ex clampers, who in their time have clamped doctors, nurses, delivery vans, and works vans. Who all had a right to be where they where but had to pay to be released. They have simply moved their bullying tactics on to issuing charges.

 

The owner of this company was in the press saying he was going to sue the government for taking away his livelihood, when they banned clamping.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-14586933

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1347597/Clamping-bosss-4m-payout-bid-Government-claiming-new-anti-cowboy-rules-ruin-business.html

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On what basis did you appeal to POPLA? Take no notice of their claim that everything is fair and compliant as we know its not, and goes to prove what lies they tell. Go through their points and if there wrong rebut them and send it to POPLA.

 

Your main approach to POPLA should have been the charge not being a genuine loss. However everything else you can add will not cause any harm.

 

Regarding them saying the signs are compliant, having actually seen this car park it does not come anywhere near compliant. The signs still claim to clamp, however they have been known to resign the car park and send the photos to POPLA after the event.

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Yes they have resigned part of it . but they still have a clamping sign on a wall .This was the old sign from the carkpark which they have moved..

 

Did i send you my Appeal by PM ?

 

The point's of my appeal where Not a genuine pre-estimate of loss,the signs are unclear ,they have failed to follow POFA,they hold no contract and lack of response re popla code

 

They are also claiming the charge is fairand listed the running costs of the business salaries,NI for staff ,printing, postage etc etc .They also quoting lots of court cases

 

its worth looking at

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