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My ex-partner has set up accounts with NPower and Severn Trent in my name, the NPower one has been sorted luckily as I knew the Electricity Act and made a complaint, basically surrounding the fact that I was not the occupier therefore no contract exists.

 

I've raised a complaint with Severn Trent, but does anyone know the actual legislation around water rates?

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is your name on the deeds then?

 

 

water debts are not a priority debt like elec/water

 

 

they can be treated the same as a credit card debt.

 

 

though they can be quick with ccj's etc.

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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it was a rented property,

 

 

the tenancy agreement was in joint names and was for either six or 12 months.

 

 

I left over 6 years ago so any of my own liability would be statute barred,

 

 

however they apparently have billed me until earlier this year.

 

 

This was what formed my argument with NPower,

the fact that any deemed contract is with the occupier of the property or the landlord where the property is unoccupied,

just wandered whether water works in the same way?

 

To say I'm fuming is an understatement!

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if your ex has not paid the water company anything in 6yrs then its SB'd

 

 

water can be sb'd regardless of if they've sent bills

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Thanks guys, the liability runs up until march this year, so not all of it is mine, however I would have left before June 2007, so any liability that could be mine is clearly statute barred. Just so frustrating and annoying. Have just found a virgin media account on my credit file too, which again is fraudulent so think it might be time to get the police involved on this one!

 

Thanks again :)

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Well, I've reported the matter to Action Fraud and provided both Severn Trent and the DCA with the reference number, and copied in the CEO of Severn Trent to my response.

 

Despite being advised there was a hold on the account they've continued to send threatograms!

 

This could get very interesting!

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well if ever there was further evidence needed of the fact that it 'pays to complain' then this is certainly one of the best examples!

 

Had a response back from Severn Trent and they have removed my details from their account and apologised. They reckoned that there's been no impact on my credit file so I've gone back to them again on this with a screen shot from Equifax, so I guess we will have to wait and see!

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