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    • So I guess I may be on my own for this mediation ... I am not certain the CCA request has been satisfied .. or if the CPR has been .   And then I appear to have evidence that the Default notices provided are fabricated ? Yet, I do have (elsewhere ... not at home) Default letters from Capital One I can check ..
    • I submitted CCA request and CPR 31.14. However, I didn't get any proof of postage or use registered post for the CPR (an oversight) but did with the CCA request. I received a pack which included a letter from Overdales, going over the defence I'd filed, as well as letters of Lowells and reprints of letters from Capital One. But I have no idea if this pack is in response to the CCA request or the CPR ! I would have expected two separate responses ... although I do know they are both the same company.   Looking over the pack today, and looking through old emails .. I find some discrepencies in the Capital One default letters (notice of default and Claim of default). They are both dated *before* an email I have stating that a default can be avoided. The one single page of agreement sent (so not the full agreement) has a 16 digit number at the top in small print, next to 'Capital One' which corresponds to a number called 'PURN' printed at the top of each of the 10 pages of ins and outs of the account (they're not official statements, but a list of monthly goings) yet no mention anywhere on either of the account number. I cant really scan them at the moment - I can later tomorrow, but that will be after the mediation call I'm sure.
    • Here is my Defence: Defence - 1. The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are vague and generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. I have in the past had an agreement with Capital One but do not recognise this specific account number or recollect any outstanding debt and have therefore requested clarification by way of a CPR 31.14 and section 78 request.. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. I am unaware of having been served with a Default Notice pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. I am unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment pursuant to the Law and Property Act 1925 Section 136(1) 5. The Defendant has sent a request by way of a section 78 pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974, for a copy of the agreement, the Claimant has yet to comply and remains in default of said request. 6. A further request has been made via CPR 31.14 to the Claimants solicitor, requesting disclosure of documents on which the Claimant is basing their claim. The Claimant has not complied and to date nothing has been received. 7. It is therefore not accepted with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant and the Claimant is put to strict proof to: a) show how the Defendant has entered into an agreement and; b) show how the Claimant has reached the amount claimed for and; c) show the nature of the breach and evidence by way of a Default Notice pursuant to sec 88 CCA1974 d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim 8. As per Civil Procedure 16.5 it is expected that the claimants prove the allegation that the money is owed 9. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of section 136 of the Law of Property Act and section 82A of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 10. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.     Please note that I had to write a defence quite quickly as I hit the deadline. At the time of writing the defence, I hadn't been able to find correspondence from Capital One, but had since found default letter etc.
    • Which Court have you received the claim from ? Civil National Business CEntre       If possible please scan redact and upload a full page copy of page 1 of the claim form. (not the response page or AOS)     Name of the Claimant ? Lowell Portfolio i Ltd   How many defendant's  joint or self ? Self   Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to. 15 Feb 2024     Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim? Please type out their particulars of claim in full (verbatim) less any identifiable data and round the amounts up/down. state how many digits the account number has.. The claim is for the sum of £922 due by the Defendant under and agreement regulated by the Consumer Credit ACt 1974 for a CApital One account with an account reference of [number with 16 digits] The Defendant failed to maintain contractual payments required by the agreement and a Default Notice was served under s.87(1) of the Consumer Credit ACt 1974 which has not been complied with. The debt was legally assigned to the claimant on 16-06-23, notice of which has been given to the defendant. The claim includes statutory interest under S.69 of the County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of the issue of these proceedings in the sum of £49.15 The Claimant claims the sum of £972   What is the total value of the claim? £1112   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? I dont know the details of the PAPDC to know if it was pursuant to paragaph 3, but I did receive a Letter of Claim with a questionaire/form to fill.   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? no   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Assigned/purchaser   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? I was aware, I'm not certain I received a 'Notice of Assignment' from Capital One but may have been informed the account had been sold without such a title on the letter?   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Yes   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Not since the debt purchase, and not from Capital One.   Why did you cease payments? I can't remember - it was the tail end of the pandemic and I may not have had enough income to keep up payments - I am self-employed and work in the event industry - at that time. I also had a bank account that didn't allow direct debits and may have just forgotten payments and became annoyed at fines for late payments.   What was the date of your last payment? Appears to be 20/4/2022   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No
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I'm trying to help as I am a fraud officer and state facts, my last post was tongue in cheek regrading the so called bonus we get.

 

You could be anyone,you could be a super troll,bus conductor or time waster for all we know !

Please use the quote system, So everyone will know what your referring too, thank you ...

 

 

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You could be anyone,you could be a super troll,bus conductor or time waster for all we know !

 

I'll tell you what then, I will remove my advice and make it easy for all and then we can just listen to the idiots, which from some posts is apparent they have no understanding of how the system works!

 

I could also be all of the things you mention, but I get nothing out of it so what would be the point in lying.

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You could be anyone,you could be a super troll,bus conductor or time waster for all we know !

 

& it's also fairly obvious from his answers, that he is none of these things. Any regular contributor to this site should be able to tell that!

 

Back to Danilou again. If everything you have said is correct then all you can do at the IUC is tell the truth. I'm no expert on ESA letters, but you will have been sent an award notice & the ESA rules at some point during your claim, probably on more than one occasion. You will have to explain why you didn't read them & hopefully there are no false forms or statements in your claim documents to destroy your excuse.

 

The overpayment amount cannot be changed, but whether a criminal offence has taken place or not is yet to be decided.

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The overpayment amount can be changed on appeal if the diminishing capital rule hasn't been applied. Less common for the dwp to forget to apply it, but it does happen.

 

Yes. But what I meant was that in this case, nothing will in the change in the amount of the overpayment as a result what happens at the IUC.

 

The exact amount will probably not have been calculated yet, but as long as the DM applies the rules correctly, the dates & amounts of money involved should already have been established. The IUC is to see why the overpayment has happened & to see if any further action is required as a result of the overpayment.

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Yes. But what I meant was that in this case, nothing will in the change in the amount of the overpayment as a result what happens at the IUC.

 

The exact amount will probably not have been calculated yet, but as long as the DM applies the rules correctly, the dates & amounts of money involved should already have been established. The IUC is to see why the overpayment has happened & to see if any further action is required as a result of the overpayment.

 

True the IUC changes nothing. Post IUC if the OP disagrees with the decision reached, for a valid reason, then the only recourse is to appeal the decision to a Tribunal.

We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office ~ Aesop

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So I had my interview at 11am, it lasted 45 minutes so not too bad.

Through the interview and my extensive paperwork and bank statements it was incredibly obvious that the overpayment has been their fault, not mine.

At the beginning of the interview I was told that I would be informed at the end of the interview if my case would be taken for prosecution and I wasn't so that's great!

 

The DWP were under the impression that I was always on income based (means tested) but on showing all the letters I have received the interviewer admitted that it would appear that I have been on contributions based.

 

I'm so relieved and can finally eat after 5 days of non stop worry! Thanks all :)

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fraud officer LOL ? Says it all . I am going though hell at the moment still and its a shame that Fraud officers don`t go by facts. That's why I said I heard....Its up to people who post the threads to believe it or not. You seem to have a lot of time on your hands. I think they make up the rules as they go along .. They say one thing and do another. How did you get on today at your interview Danilou91?

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I'm so glad for you :) make sure you take care of yourself ! Has this effected your benefits ? Don`t you think they could of asked you before to send information / proof that it wasn't your fault before calling you in for a interview ?

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They have still stopped my benefits until a 'decision maker' decides if I have to pay anything back or not.

My mum asked why they went straight to an IUC and all they could say was that its standard procedure, typical!

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That's bad when its not your fault . I don't know about you but I think a lot of time stress upset and money could be saved if they done things a different way. I hope you won`t after pay anything back as wasn't your fault. I still don`t know where I stand and because they stopped my housing benefit / council tax benefit if it isn't sorted it couple weeks wont have home :( .. Please let me know what the Decision maker decides and I hope you hear off them soon

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That's bad when its not your fault . I don't know about you but I think a lot of time stress upset and money could be saved if they done things a different way. I hope you won`t after pay anything back as wasn't your fault. I still don`t know where I stand and because they stopped my housing benefit / council tax benefit if it isn't sorted it couple weeks wont have home :( .. Please let me know what the Decision maker decides and I hope you hear off them soon

 

Things can't be done a different way, if an offence is believed to have been commited any further contact has to be under caution as potentially the outcome could be court, so anything said has to be recorded to cover all concerned.

 

It's also not crystal clear from the outset of an investigation of what has actually happened, as with most cases evidence normally collected appears to show guilt. Once you hear both sides of the story and get a claimants explanation this occasionally changes things as they can explain why you might have x, y or z. The point of an IUC is to obtain the facts.

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That is why i said support group esa..where it is not income related.

 

Support Group ESA can be contribution or income related. If it's income related, the same capital limits apply to the SG as apply to the WRAG or the assessment phase.

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The idea that all politicians lie is music to the ears of the most egregious liars.

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Any idea how the contribution bit works Or a link for explanation?

ok found it..

 

To be entitled to contributory employment and support allowance you must have paid enough national insurance contributions.

 

What if I have savings or other income, will that matter?

 

It does not matter what other income or savings you have, other than any occupational or personal pension. This may reduce how much contributory ESA you receive.

 

If you are placed in the support group there will be no time limit on how long you can receive contributory ESA.

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Any idea how the contribution bit works Or a link for explanation?

ok found it..

 

To be entitled to contributory employment and support allowance you must have paid enough national insurance contributions.

 

What if I have savings or other income, will that matter?

 

It does not matter what other income or savings you have, other than any occupational or personal pension. This may reduce how much contributory ESA you receive.

 

If you are placed in the support group there will be no time limit on how long you can receive contributory ESA.

 

Yes, this is all correct, but does not apply to those who are on Income Related ESA and are in the Support Group.

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING. EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHERS

 

 

The idea that all politicians lie is music to the ears of the most egregious liars.

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