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    • Speaking of the reformatory boys, here they are with all of their supporters, some of whom traveled with them from miles away, all carefully crammed together and photographed to look like there were more than about 80 .. rather like Farages last rally with even fewer people crammed around what looked like an ice cream van or mobile tea bar ... Although a number in the crowd apparently thought they were at a vintage car rally as they appeared to be chanting 'crank-her'. A vintage Bentley must be out of view.   Is this all there is? Its less than the Tory candidate. - shut up and smile while they get a camera angle that looks better
    • in order for us to help you we require the following information:- Which Court have you received the claim from ? Canterbury If possible please scan redact and upload a full page copy of page 1 of the claim form. ( Name of the Claimant ? Moneybarn No 1   How many defendant's  joint or self ? One Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to. 29/05/24 Acknowledged by 14/06/24  Defence by 29/06/24  Particulars of Claim PARTICULARS OF CLAIM   1.  By a Conditional Sale Agreement in writing made on 25th August 2022. Between the Claimant and Defendant, the Claimant let to the Defendant on Conditional Sale. A Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi (200 P S) 4x4 Wildtrack  Double Cab Pickup 3200cc (Sep.2015) Registration No, ******* Chassis number ***************** (“The Vehicle”).  A copy of the agreement is attached   2.  The price of the goods was £15,995.00.  The Initial Rental was £8500.00.  The total charge for credit was £3575.;17 And the balance of £11,070.17 was payable by 59 equal consecutive monthly instalments of £187 63. payable on the 25th of each month.   3.  The following were expressed conditions of the set agreement,   Clause 8: Our Right to End this Agreement  8.1   Subject to sending you the notice as required by law, any of the following events will entitle us to end this Agreement: 8.1.2  You fail to pay the advance payment (if any) or any of the payments as specified on the front page of this agreement or any other sum payable under this Agreement. 8.1.3 If any of the information you have given us before entering into this Agreement or during the term of this Agreement was false 8.1.4 We consider, acting reasonably, that the goods may be in jeopardy or that our rights in the goods may otherwise be prejudiced. 8.1.5 If you die 8.1.6 If a bankruptcy petition is presented against you; if you petition for your own bankruptcy, or make a live arrangement with your creditors or call a meeting of them. 8. 1.7 If in Scotland, you become insolvent or sequestration or a receiver, judicial factor or trustee to be appointed over any of your estate, or effects or suffer an arrestment, charge attachment or other diligence to be issued or levied on any of your estate or effects or suffer any exercise, or threatened exercise of landlords hype hypothec 8.1.8 If you are a partnership, you are dissolved 8.1.9 If the goods are destroyed, lost, stolen and/or treated by the insurer as a total loss in response to an insurance claim. 8.1.10 If we reasonably believe any payment made to us in respect of this Agreement is a proceed of crime. 8.1.11 If steps are taken by us to terminate any other agreement which you have entered into with us.   Clause 9.  Effect of Us Terminating Agreement   9.1 If this Agreement terminates under clause 8 the following will apply 9.1.1 Subject to the rights given to you by law, you will no longer be entitled to possession of the goods and must return them to us to an address as we may reasonably specify, (removing or commencing the removal of any cherished plates) together with a V5 registration certificate, both sets of keys and a service record book. If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate   4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:-   a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement number 756050. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     Thw total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by Firrst class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges ]= 5.  A the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or  alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage.   Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs.   Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024   What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg
    • Now that is an interesting article which adds afew perspective that I hadn't thought significant - but on reflection of the perspectives offered ... Now Starmer is no Blair, however 'blairite he may be perceived, but the Tories aren't tories and aren't even remotely liberal   The fast 'unannounced and unexpected election call from sunack may well be explained by the opinion linked that he hoped reform would be unprepared and effectively call a chunk of Farages largely empty bluster - making him look even more of a prat, leave scope for attacks on shabby reform candidates and mimimise core vote losses to reform - while throwing the 'middle ground' (relative) tories TO THE DOGS - and with the added bonus of likely pacifying his missu' desire to jogg off to sunny cal tout suite somewhat   thumb in the air - I expect about 140ish tory seats, but can hope for under a hundred Reform - got to admit the outside possibility of 1, maybe 2 seats with about 8% of the vote - but unlikely. I think projections of over 10% of the vote for reform is nudged and paid for speculation - but possible with the expected massive drives from Russian, Chinese and far right social media bot and troll prods targeting the gullible.
    • Commentary June 2024 WWW.ELECTORALCALCULUS.CO.UK Interesting article about just how bad it could be for the Tories.  Also Tories could be hoping on Reform not having candidates in many seats, as they were not ready.  
    • Even a Piers Morgan is an improvement and a gutless Farage Piers Morgan calls for second Brexit referendum WWW.THELONDONECONOMIC.COM Piers Morgan and Nigel Farage have faced off over Brexit and a second referendum in a heated reunion on BBC Question Time.   “Why don’t we have another referendum about Brexit?” he questioned. “I seem to remember when 2016 came around we were told there was going to be control of our borders and it was going to be economically beneficial to this country. And eight years later we have lost complete control of our borders… and economically it seems to have been a wilful act of self-harm.”   ... Piers missed off : after all somebody said a 48/52 decision would be "unfinished business" by a long way - was that person just bul lying (again)  
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      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
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I am not saying that this has actually happened. I don’t know. I am just enquiring if anyone else has heard about it?

 

Whilst in the pub the other night, I over heard a conversation that went along the lines of: The Bank’s and Building Societies, had before the crash, been allowing home owners to get into difficulties so that they could reposes their homes, purchase them cheap at auction via a 3rd party and then sell them on for full price via the 3rd party thus depriving the owners of their home and equity, making themselves a nice profit. I wonder if anyone else has heard of this. I can easily see how these institutions could have looked on with envious eyes as equity soared for the homeowner and not for them. After all they had a mortgage invested in the place.

 

Nothing would surprise me these days; this would be yet even more rich pickings from the cash cow that we members have become?

 

I don’t normally listen into conversations, only I couldn’thelp it as they were standing right behind me and I couldn't help it.

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Theres no proof of this, but it wouldnt surprise me at all, given the antics of some of the biggest banks over the last few years.

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Perfectly plausible, from a moral standpoint the Bank’s and Building Societies would have no qualms because to them it would represent a shrewd business move so long as they did not actively encourage people to swim out of their depth.

 

 

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I think this is very likely with the sub-prime lenders.

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I'm sure there are provisions in law to prevent that sort of thing from happening - that said with the way companies can be structured I also imagine it would be very easy to circumvent the rules.

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As others have said, it wouldn't surprise me in the least, in my opinion banks are a law unto themselves, and are at times legalised thieves when it comes to raising interest rates when it suits them, and making it difficult to pay more than the minimum on credit cards etc.

 

But the other reason I believe this could be plausible, is so many customers (Santander) had their overdrafts taken from them going back about 2yrs ago now, it didn't bother me as I don't use mine, but it came to light that their reason for doing this to everyone was to manipulate their lending statistics.

 

Those who wanted their overdrafts had to apply again (even though it came automatically with the bank account in the beginning), therefore it appeared that their lending had gone up!

 

They just forgot to mention that the overdrafts had probably dropped as people such as myself who originally had the facility, didn't bother applying! So it was less than the previous year!

 

Craft huh?

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A little snippet that's highly appropriate to this thread.

 

here http://unemploymentmovement.com/forum/chat-a-rap/6312-bankers-caught-on-tape-joking-about-bailout-and-how-theyd-never-pay-it-back

 

Out of the horses mouth.

 

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To a bank, they are not houses. They are purely numbers that can be manipulated into cold hard cash for the bankers.

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The bank's and building society's are worse than criminals and building society's are the worst. We expect this sort of thing from criminals, scmmers and other low life, but not from the bank's and building society's. To make it worse building society' hide behind NOT being like bank's and having members who they can rip off with low interest rates and high interest rates depending on direction of travel, plus anything else they feel that they can get away with.

When you have problems they don't want to know. You automatically become an "I won't pay " NOT an “I can’tpay”. Remember criminals have rights, building society members and bank customers don’t.

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Banks are private companies. All private companies are the same and exist for one reason. To make money. The banks have the added bonus that the government won't do anything to them as the directors of the bank sit as advisors and as lords, as well as donating through intermediaries to whichever party is in power.

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A little snippet that's highly appropriate to this thread.

 

here http://unemploymentmovement.com/forum/chat-a-rap/6312-bankers-caught-on-tape-joking-about-bailout-and-how-theyd-never-pay-it-back

 

Out of the horses mouth.

 

OMG!!! :!:

 

Did you listen to the recording on the link?

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Thanks duckwaddler & osdset.

I hadn't seen it. I have now. Authorities turning blind eye don't care at all. I suggest we teach the b*****ds a lesson and kick them all out at the next election. What we need is new blood. Remember MP's expenses. If everyone who voted conservative and liberal democrat last time voted labour and everyone who voted labour voted conservative and all those who didn't vote stayed in bed and continued not giving a dam, then in theory every MP in the government at the moment would be out and we would have completely new parliament, full of new blood. Of course though, we could all vote UKIP. that would teach the b*****ds .

I must say, I was amused to see the Tower of London in the background, that is exactly where they deserve to be imprisoned, awaiting the axe.

The real problem is that MP’s think they have a career, and the voters can go to hell and back again. They forget that we put them where they are and pay them. They also tend to forget that the government has no money and neither does local government. The only money they have is ours. which they are extremely loathed to give back to us when we need it. Going back on their word planning cut backs in pensions etc. etc.

Don't let them get their feet under the table, it's a mistake. Keep voting them out instead of in, it sharpens their mind's and makes them think of us for a change.

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If you REALLY want change in this country then you need a new political party. Get the people who want change behind you, get economists etc to draw up a plan, then get started in the local by elections and progress up. The current main 3 parties are in it for themselves. They have proven that over and over yet people are too stubborn or stupid to realise that and keep blindly voting for them in every election.

 

We have dozens of political parties for each constituency yet only 3 really ever get voted for.

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The biggest problem is that the voters are too isolated. They need some sort of organisation in order to be able to pull together and get rid of the rubbish we find ourselves stuck with. If only we could come together with a plan to target and kick certain MP's out, then they would have to change the way they operate, irrelevant of their party, in favour of the people and not themselves. We need a new party that has a chance of getting in and getting us our country back from Europe.

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One big problem is "safe seats" that just happen to be the deciding constituencies. The conservatives for example have 1 deciding seat that has been safe since the early 1900's

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Even so, I bet most constituents don't bother voting even in safe seats. If they did start voting and were a part of the plan, then there would be no safe seats at all. However, it would need organisation and commitment from all the non voting electorate to vote and to vote the way required.

If this happened we the electorate could put any party we wished into power and really take charge of our country instead of it being left to these Morons.

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It's been this way for over a hundred years. It's ingrained in the minds of people. You wont change it.

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Was just browsing the FCA site and thought you folks may be interested in this. http://www.fca.org.uk/consumers/financial-services-products/mortgages/mortgage-fraud

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Sorry I have only just seen your replies, I've not been on in a while and couldn't find the thread :lol:

 

Odset's right, a brand new political party is what's needed - only thing is, political folk are greedy folk, no matter what party they're from, it would be nice if the people could run the country!

 

Not gonna happen though, and wouldn't work!

 

I really don't know what the answer is :|

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