work programme after 2 years

[Dom86]

My local one started doing NVQ's in conjunction with learn direct

 

NVQ in what though!?

 

I have a 'GNVQ' in Business, and even before the government scraped them and replaced them with something else that no doubt now has been replaced too lol, most useless thing I've worked for, no ones the slightest bit bothered about it.

[Dom86]

only thing worthwhile on the work program is collecting your bus fairs on the way out.

 

yep! Its a disgrace. 2 years of going back and forth, just to see someone say "hi, whats been going on, oh ok keep it up, I get your travel sorted, bye".

[Chester6]

Admin type work as someone else was doing one but it may be that others are abailable

[Alfie29]

i finish the work program in September,but i was assigned a new work coach as my other one has left,

only thing is i have seen her only once and she has not contacted me since for an appointment for over 4 weeks,should i contact her ,or just forget about it ,i think shes forgot about me,

 

They did this with me too mate! I never called them back as they tell U wot to do. If u are still getting paid 4nightly AND Jobcentre ain't said about pointless WP then let it be. U could find urself in the crapper if u tell Jobcentre that u ain't heard from them, so don't!!!

 

Y should u run after them?!!!

[Alfie29]

only thing worthwhile on the work program is collecting your bus fairs on the way out.

 

Ur lucky! I never got ANY paid for

[Dom86]

Ur lucky! I never got ANY paid for

 

You still have the tickets or receipts? If so I would make a claim.

[Mr.P]

tell U wot to do. If u are still getting paid 4nightlye. U could find urself in the crapper if u tell Jobcentre that u ain't heard from them. Y should u run after them?!!!

 

Alfie29 dear boy. Please drop the txtsp33k - You have a keyboard in front of you with a full complement of letters and a shift key. Take time to type words out in full and you will find others more inclined to help if you have a problem.

 

You wouldn't write out a job application in the same sloppy manner would you.

[Alfie29]

Spelling police

[Bakatcha]

Alfie29 dear boy. Please drop the txtsp33k - You have a keyboard in front of you with a full complement of letters and a shift key. Take time to type words out in full and you will find others more inclined to help if you have a problem.

 

You wouldn't write out a job application in the same sloppy manner would you.

Agreed! We unemployed need standards!

P.S. Mr P - your last sentence should have a "?"

[Chester6]

Text speak doesn't matter

It was legible

This is a forum to help and it isn't helpful to say no txt-speck I believe

It would be off-putting

[Bakatcha]

text speak is off putting

[Chester6]

text speak is off putting

 

it wasn't 4 me and this forum was about helping and not worrying about the txt speak

[Bakatcha]

it wasn't 4 me and this forum was about helping and not worrying about the txt speak

Indeed it is about helping, which is why those seeking help and advice should make the effort to convey their queries in a medium which can be easily understood by all.

[JustInterested]

Indeed it is about helping, which is why those seeking help and advice should make the effort to convey their queries in a medium which can be easily understood by all.

 

So no mime then?

[Bakatcha]

So no mime then?

Very good = but I did not understand your last action. Can you repeat to fade please?

[Lorise]

Hey guys/gals after some advice have posted here before and had some great advice so thanks again for that and in advance for next lot haha,

Finished WP.....:whoo:But sadly back at JCP had my first interview last week, just standard rewrite of JSA agreement, did try to put me on a 3 week course but I am a lone parent and it was during the school hols so they have postponed it for now. was told I had to get a UJ account, came home set up account have not ticked the box that allows them to watch what I do (as you guys/gals let me know I didn't have to by law) but I was wondering when I next sign on and they want to check what I have been doing job search wise how will they? I have done my daily job search and filled in the activity part of UJ as they told me not to fill in my paper diary anymore I don't want them to know my UJ ID etc so how will they know I have fulfilled my agreement, and what do you say if/when they ask for my ID. Thank you

[physicsgraduate]

I wish I was back on the WP it was an absolute breeze then.

[RebeccaPidgeon]

Hey guys/gals after some advice have posted here before and had some great advice so thanks again for that and in advance for next lot haha,

Finished WP.....:whoo:But sadly back at JCP had my first interview last week, just standard rewrite of JSA agreement, did try to put me on a 3 week course but I am a lone parent and it was during the school hols so they have postponed it for now. was told I had to get a UJ account, came home set up account have not ticked the box that allows them to watch what I do (as you guys/gals let me know I didn't have to by law) but I was wondering when I next sign on and they want to check what I have been doing job search wise how will they? I have done my daily job search and filled in the activity part of UJ as they told me not to fill in my paper diary anymore I don't want them to know my UJ ID etc so how will they know I have fulfilled my agreement, and what do you say if/when they ask for my ID. Thank you

Unless you have been issued with a Job Seekers Direction, there is no mandatory requirement for any Job Seekers to create an account on UJ... and, if and when the JSD is issued, the most that can be required is for the candidate i) to create a UJ Account, ii) create a profile, iii) upload a CV, iv) make that CV searchable.

 

It is entirely your discretion as to how you present your Job Search Diary. Further, irrespective of any bullying tactics deployed by JCP Staff, there is no requirement for you to divulge confidential information on your UJ Account.

[jasta11]

.. but I was wondering when I next sign on and they want to check what I have been doing job search wise how will they? I have done my daily job search and filled in the activity part of UJ as they told me not to fill in my paper diary anymore I don't want them to know my UJ ID etc so how will they know I have fulfilled my agreement, and what do you say if/when they ask for my ID. Thank you

 

They can't tell you not to use paper-based jobsearch. The regulations quite clearly state that you CAN provide jobsearch evidence in paper form. Here's the extract (underlined);

 

190. The evidence of jobsearch produced when they attend to have their regular reviews may

be in various forms:

 information they have provided from their Universal Jobmatch account;

 evidence in writing from employers, employment agencies, or other organisations which

they have contacted;

 copies of letters they have sent to employers;

 the claimant’s un-corroborated written evidence, for example an ES4;

 the claimant’s verbal evidence

 evidence from previous Jobsearch Reviews recorded on LMS.

 

Full document is here:

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/169272/response/411434/attach/3/FOI%203354.pdf

 

As for you giving them proof you've created a UJ account in the first place, Chapter 3 of the Universal Jobmatch Toolkit says this (underlined again);

 

'Claimant has not given DWP access to their account

11. If the claimant has not given DWP permission to access their account your

search will open a page that returns a message which says, “User has not

provided permissions to access account.” This also confirms that the

claimant has completed their profile and therefore has created an account.'

 

Basically the system tells them that they can't have access to your account, thereby proving that you indeed have one!.

 

..and if they tell you to provide print-outs of your UJ, then show them this bit from the same document in the link above;

 

'In response to the question you have raised about requiring jobsearch evidence from Universal

Jobmatch. Advisers cannot mandate claimants to give them access to their Universal

Jobmatch account, nor can they force a claimant to print out screen prints of their UJ account.'

Edited July 31, 2013 by jasta11

[Chester6]

Indeed it is about helping, which is why those seeking help and advice should make the effort to convey their queries in a medium which can be easily understood by all.

 

Txt speak is ez 4 all 2 understand

[Lorise]

Thank you RebeccaPidgeon and Jasta11 for your help and advice much appreciated.

[Bakatcha]

Hey guys/gals after some advice have posted here before and had some great advice so thanks again for that and in advance for next lot haha,

Finished WP.....:whoo:But sadly back at JCP had my first interview last week, just standard rewrite of JSA agreement, did try to put me on a 3 week course but I am a lone parent and it was during the school hols so they have postponed it for now. was told I had to get a UJ account, came home set up account have not ticked the box that allows them to watch what I do (as you guys/gals let me know I didn't have to by law) but I was wondering when I next sign on and they want to check what I have been doing job search wise how will they? I have done my daily job search and filled in the activity part of UJ as they told me not to fill in my paper diary anymore I don't want them to know my UJ ID etc so how will they know I have fulfilled my agreement, and what do you say if/when they ask for my ID. Thank you

Have a look at recent postings on the Ingeus thread

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?309173-Ingeus/page205

#4093 in particular

[Bakatcha]

Txt speak is ez 4 all 2 understand

Pardon?

[jasta11]

On my exit report - and probably everyone else's too - it states 'The client is ready for work'. In a sane, logical world this would mean that we don't get sent on any more courses...anybody know where this sane, logical world is then?

 

I'll ponder this while I'm on the next course

[Chester6]

On my exit report - and probably everyone else's too - it states 'The client is ready for work'. In a sane, logical world this would mean that we don't get sent on any more courses...anybody know where this sane, logical world is then?

 

I'll ponder this while I'm on the next course

 

Mine says my only barrier to work is being unemployed so I'd agree that no more courses would be sane, logical and saves money which would be a great incentive for the JCP - logically anyway as logic is foriegn to the JCP