PPC Ticket, Cherry Tree Shoping Centre, Wirral

[mallyc]

Hi, received a ticket from a muppet working for ANPR-Ltd in November,

 

reason for ticket,

 

"not displaying my clock with my blue badge"

something I`ve never done at this car park since I was told I didn`t have to by a warden years ago,

I always display my valid Blue Badge correctly though,

I have of course ignored/recycled any correspondence I receive from them, then

 

today I am in the same car park unloading my wife's wheelchair and I was parked right by the sign in the picture,

 

it was the red writing that got me "Penalty Charges Apply For" so

 

I read through them and came across number 4) Parking In A Disabled Bay Without Displaying A Valid Badge

 

On the day in question I was parked in a disabled bay with my valid blue badge on display, so

I had not done anything to receive this Penalty had I?

 

It doesn't mention a penalty for not displaying a clock with a blue badge anywhere.

 

I will just carry on the Ignore/Recycle routine, I would love them to take it to court though, I would have it thrown out in a second.

I will let you all know what happens.

Mal

[dx100uk]

i eould suspect itdoes not say penalty!!

 

as for you clock the blue badge mrked bays etc etc

 

they hsave no legal standing at all on private property

 

ignore

 

 

dx

[i hate bailiffs]

Blue badges are issued by the council so valid in council car parks and the highway

 

Bays in private car parks are nothing more than graffiti

[mallyc]

Yeah It Does say Penalty, if you could see the picture properly it would be very clear. Here you go.

[crem]

So they think they can impose PENALTY charges do they!! Don't worry, they are going nowhere near a court with that sign!

[SURFBOY]

Are they BPA AOS members?

[dx100uk]

that sign needs reporting

 

they cannot use the word penalty

 

dx

[SURFBOY]

I would love to see a POPLA appeal based on these facts.

See how they try to say this isnt a penalty!

[SURFBOY]

I can not see a BPA logo on that sign.

Is this a council run car park?

[Tony P]

Are they BPA AOS members?

 

Yes - according to ANPR Ltd's Website.

[SURFBOY]

Yes - according to ANPR Ltd's Website.

It's DVLA complaint time then eh?

[mallyc]

Here is a picture of one of their other signs scattered about the car park.

 

Mal

Edited January 23, 2013 by mallyc

[diskmandave]

The bold/open use of the word penalty, and the 'almost' professional Council look

to the Pay and Display signs has me spooked. Having looked and looked again, I'm

happy to concur and conclude that it's 99.9% certain this is PPC...

 

But OP, could you possibly scan in your "parking ticket" (suitably redacted),

just to be 100% certain please..

[mallyc]

Here you go diskmandave, this is all I have, I have recycled everything else, I took the photo as soon as I saw it on the windscreen because I could not believe it, as you can see in the photo, my blue badge is clearly displayed, I looked up a list of my local council car parks and this one is definitely not on it.

 

All the letters so far have come from anpr-ltd.

Thanks,

Mal

[dx100uk]

pdf them please

 

scan the required letters/agreements/sheets - as a picture[jpg] file

don't forget you can use a mobile phone or a digital camera too!!

'

BUT......

ENSURE: remove all pers info inc. barcodes etc using paint program

but leave all figures and dates. {DO NOT USE A BIRO OR PEN OR USE SEE THRU TAPE OR LABELS]

DO NOT USE ANY PDF EDITOR TO BLANK STUFF, THAT CAN BE REMOVED

DO IT IN PAINT.EXE or any photo editing program

convert existing PC files to PDF [office has an installable print to PDF option]

..

goto one of the many free online pdf converter websites [http://docupub.com/pdfconvert/]

it would be better to upload a multipage pdf if

you have many images too rather than many single pdfs

.

or if you have PDF as an installed printer drive use that

or use word and save as pdf

try and logically name your file so people know what it is.

i'e Default notice dd-mm-yyyy

.

open a new msg box here

hit go advanced below the msg box

hit manage attachments below that box

hit the add files button on the top right

hit select files, navigate to your file on your pc

hit upload files

.

dx

[mallyc]

Here you go dx100uk, it`s 8meg but all the pictures are in it, nice and clear.

 

Mal

[dx100uk]

dunno why it was 8Mb

 

sorted now

[mallyc]

[mallyc]

Here`s a scan of the latest letter to come from ANPR-Ltd this morning.

[dx100uk]

hehe

 

notice of intent

 

to do what wave their willy.

 

there wil be no appropriate purchaser that can instigate a court order

brick hot dropped

 

dx

[pontefract]

hehe

 

to do what wave their willy.

 

dx

 

In front of a judge too surely not...... hehe

[Tony P]

Here`s a scan of the latest letter to come from ANPR-Ltd this morning.

 

I would be afraid. Very afraid.

 

You could be in Contempt of Court....

 

 

 

 

.... by being a party in a case that causes a Judge to have a seizure (from laughter).

[ploddertom]

 

notice of intent

 

dx

 

Are they not going Camping?

[vengeancedemon]

In the letter, the word "Offence"?

[DBC]

This the same company that has this extraordinary wording on its signs:-

 

"Warning. Private land

 

If you park without our permission or do not use a marked parking bay, we (ANPR Ltd) will be in breach of our contract with the proprietor of this land.

 

We will then ask the DVLA for details of the vehicle's registered keeper because we will have reasonable cause to do so. We will require you (the Trespasser) via the registered keeper to pay us £100 compensation as liquidated damages for our breach of contract"

 

So, according to that, the PPC will have to pay the landowner £100 every time somebody parks on the land without permission. As they are only claiming back £100 from the motorist, then that's zero profit for them.