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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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I have arrears on council tax and had a magistrates order to pay £100 per month.

beginning of this year wrexham cc took 2 payments for that amount and this year I called them and they said understood I could not pay so would lump it in to one payment. I have paid this each month they actually took 2 payments in july so as far as i was aware was a month ahead.

last month recived demand saying owed £138, so i wrote to them

they re did figures and said pay £173 each month as missed payment sept 2012. I checked I have not.

Now they have sent balif re court order said must pay £185 each month to them and £173 to Wreham cc I can not afford this what do I do please?

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Formal complaint letter is the only way,

say why the council is wrong, and say what you want the council to do to put it right.

 

Not sure what a 'magistrates order' is.

 

A liability order doesnt set a monthly liability,

just the total sum due

but the council has discretion on when and how often they accept payments.

 

Take no notice of the bailiffs,

only cc them in with your complaint letter.

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Any and all payments can be made direct to the council

 

keep bailiffs out they have no right of entry and can NOT force entry deny them a levy

if you have a car it will be vulnerable tuck it away to prevent bailiffs getting a levy on it

 

you do not have to make arrangements with the bailiffs or speak to them

keep themm out and they can do very little:-)

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Hi thank you.

 

Unfortunately i spoke to the man he insisted that i pay 185 over 10 months said that was what I had to pay there was no leway as it was arrears that had been through the magistrates court. made me sign a levy which he filled in he did not enter the house but put things down like couch mirror etc he could not see in to the house as i kept innner door shut because of my dogs. he insisted tah ti mustr pay £50 by card which i did or they would take my fuirniture.

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I don't know much about bailiffs, but he CANNOT place a levy on anything he hasn't seen. I'm also almost completely certain that he can't place a levy on a couch. I'll look into that and get back to you.

 

Basically, he's just levied so he can charge you more in fees.

 

EDIT: I would say this covers a sofa, not that it's relevant because he hasn't made a legal levy:

 

Statutory Regulations state that the following items are exempt and must not be taken.

• "Such tools, books, vehicles and other items of equipment as are necessary for use personally in employment, business or vocation"

• "Such clothing, bedding, furniture, household equipment and provisions as are necessary for satisfying basic domestic needs of the person and family"

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the court do not state how much you have to pay each month the court only issues the liability order

 

either the council or the bailiff will state how much they want you to pay each month

 

the man who filled in the levy at your door is/should be a bailiff

 

can you tell me what bailiff firm he is from marstons,Jacobs or exel

 

your levy is unlawful because he did not enter your property

can you list exactly what goods he wrote on the notice of seizure the outstanding balance you owe to the council and the fees the bailiff has charged

 

have a look and see if you can find the bailiff on the register

http://certificatedbailiffs.justice.gov.uk/CertificatedBailiffs/

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When you received the Liability Order you should have received income and expenditure forms that I believe should be returned within 14 days! This then allows the council to see what u can afford to pay!

 

Did you receive anything like that?

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Hi Thank you for response.

 

The company was jacobs

yes i filled in an income and expenditure.

I was lead to believe by the council that the court order the payment amount.

 

Please can you tell me should I writer to the council / baliffs can you suggest what I put please

I was trying to pay and the council did not say to pay any extra amounts for arrears each month.

When you look at the council payment statements the arrears amount is actually decreasing as payments are made this confuses me?

 

Thank you

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goods he wrote where

1 x flat screen tv 1 x dvd player 1 x tv stand (i dont have one!) 1 x tumble dryer ( told him got one its broke!) coffee table ( not got one) wall mirror ( got more than one)

 

2 notices one for balance £164.07 levey and fees £53 + £11 and for other fees £22.50

other £650.44 levy/fees £43. plus £11 and for other other fees £2.50

 

on demand notice issued 28/11/12 outstanding arrears for council tax £1484.51 total including this years £2174.51

the demand notice issued before that on 8/10/12 arrears £1714.51 total due 2404.51

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The court order the payment in a CCJ

 

A magistrates court just issues liaibility orders on behalf of local authorities. The council then should arrange payment with you hence the inclusion of the income and expenditure.

 

You have been mis-led by the council and they have to take responsibility for doing so. Also if you have been making the payments and the debt is decreasing i do not see their reasons for sending this account to the bailiffs.

 

I would make a full complaint to the council stating the above. Also as mentioned in another post the levy is unlawful as he has done it from outside your house. He has to physically enter your property to make walking possession.

 

He knows full well this procedure is not lawful so then you have grounds for a complaint against him. In the meantime just dont let them in!

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goods he wrote where

1 x flat screen tv 1 x dvd player 1 x tv stand (i dont have one!) 1 x tumble dryer ( told him got one its broke!) coffee table ( not got one) wall mirror ( got more than one)

 

2 notices one for balance £164.07 levey and fees £53 + £11 and for other fees £22.50

other £650.44 levy/fees £43. plus £11 and for other other fees £2.50

 

on demand notice issued 28/11/12 outstanding arrears for council tax £1484.51 total including this years £2174.51

the demand notice issued before that on 8/10/12 arrears £1714.51 total due 2404.51

 

Bailiffs have done this levy for a financial gain to the bailiffs

 

sounds like bailiff charging multiple fees on the one visit

There levy should cover the debt should you not pay i would say you can challenge the levy as invalid

 

By having arrangements to pay the bailiffs and a levy they have(needs challenging)

The bailiffs are in a position to charge a van attendance fee they can do this if you default on a payment or a day late this will attract a fee of £180 upwards

 

You need to make a formal complaint to the council about there agents unlawful actions for a financial gain copy in local MP and Councillors

 

in the mean time you will be better off paying the council direct online using correct reference number

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The CEO of wrexham council is Dr Helen Paterson address your formal complaint to her

 

if you get no joy ask to make an appointment to discuss it and i Will go with you i live in wrexham

Now that is a golden offer annabelle, Wrexham council had better watch out

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Hi Hallowitch,

 

Had letter off council. saying reallocated arrears off bailiff sending new joint demand for arrears and this years council tax. No apology still blame me for cancelling DD, although payments made using card instead?. But a result, thank you so much for your help. and the offer of assistance I appreciate it cheers - annabelle

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