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Online Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Assigned/purchaser Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? I was aware, I'm not certain I received a 'Notice of Assignment' from Capital One but may have been informed the account had been sold without such a title on the letter? Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Yes Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Not since the debt purchase, and not from Capital One. Why did you cease payments? I can't remember - it was the tail end of the pandemic and I may not have had enough income to keep up payments - I am self-employed and work in the event industry - at that time. I also had a bank account that didn't allow direct debits and may have just forgotten payments and became annoyed at fines for late payments. What was the date of your last payment? Appears to be 20/4/2022 Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No Here is my Defence: Defence - 1. The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are vague and generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. I have in the past had an agreement with Capital One but do not recognise this specific account number or recollect any outstanding debt and have therefore requested clarification by way of a CPR 31.14 and section 78 request.. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. I am unaware of having been served with a Default Notice pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. I am unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment pursuant to the Law and Property Act 1925 Section 136(1) 5. The Defendant has sent a request by way of a section 78 pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974, for a copy of the agreement, the Claimant has yet to comply and remains in default of said request. 6. A further request has been made via CPR 31.14 to the Claimants solicitor, requesting disclosure of documents on which the Claimant is basing their claim. The Claimant has not complied and to date nothing has been received. 7. It is therefore not accepted with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant and the Claimant is put to strict proof to: a) show how the Defendant has entered into an agreement and; b) show how the Claimant has reached the amount claimed for and; c) show the nature of the breach and evidence by way of a Default Notice pursuant to sec 88 CCA1974 d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim 8. As per Civil Procedure 16.5 it is expected that the claimants prove the allegation that the money is owed 9. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of section 136 of the Law of Property Act and section 82A of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 10. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief. .................. Please note that I had to write a defence quite quickly as I hit the deadline. At the time of writing the defence, I hadn't been able to find correspondence from Capital One, but had since found default letter etc. I submitted CCA request and CPR 31.14. However, I didn't get any proof of postage or use registered post for the CPR (an oversight) but did with the CCA request. I received a pack which included a letter from Overdales, going over the defence I'd filed, as well as letters of Lowells and reprints of letters from Capital One. But I have no idea if this pack is in response to the CCA request or the CPR ! I would have expected two separate responses ... although I do know they are both the same company. Looking over the pack today, and looking through old emails .. I find some discrepancies in the Capital One default letters (notice of default and Claim of default). They are both dated *before* an email I have stating that a default can be avoided. 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There is a retail centre car park beside where I work operated by a well known Parking Enforcement Company. I park in it just about every day.

 

Over the pasty few years I have tried to stick to their 3 hour limit, but have had about a dozen parking tickets from them, all of which I have ignored and they have gone away. You can pay a pound to park in the car park all day, but I never have.

 

Recently, I have decided to try and beat their system. Basically, I'm parking in the car park all day every day and have done for the past 2 weeks. No tickets have arrived yet.

 

My theory is that they will eventually realise that they are wasting their time and money sending me tickets and the tickets will stop altogether.

 

Has anyone else done this? Will they have the sense to stop paying the DVLA for my address? Will the tickets ever stop?

 

Also, if anyone wants to advise me to stop. Tell me why.

 

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My theory is that they will eventually realise that they are wasting their time and money sending me tickets and the tickets will stop altogether.

 

 

Another theory is that with multiple outstanding tickets they could decide it's worth their while issuing a court claim.

 

Who is the PPC?

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Agree with the post above - also, if it is only a pound a day to park then why not simply pay to park there? Whilst we are all agreed in our opposition to unfair and unjust speculative invoicing on the part of PPCs, that is a world away from condoning anybody knowingly not paying a parking charge just to prove a point.As stated above, you could be opening up yourself to a claim. After all you are depriving the landowner of money.

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There is a charge the landowner could certainly bring. A serious criminal charge in fact. PM me for details.

 

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The nub of the problem is that you are continually ignoring their regulations. Were it just a one off instance, you could always argue on the grounds that you did'nt

see/understand their signage. Once you have repeated the same exercise on many occasions the Judge would likely take a very dim view of your actions should the

parking company decide to take you to Court.

I expect that you are aware of the recent change in legislation where it is the registered keeper who will be responsible for parking on private land rather than the driver

which will make it more likely, I suspect, that Court proceedings could be taken against you. And if previous tickets are taken into consideration that could well add up

to a very hefty fine.

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The nub of the problem is that you are continually ignoring their regulations. Were it just a one off instance, you could always argue on the grounds that you did'nt

see/understand their signage. Once you have repeated the same exercise on many occasions the Judge would likely take a very dim view of your actions should the

parking company decide to take you to Court.

I expect that you are aware of the recent change in legislation where it is the registered keeper who will be responsible for parking on private land rather than the driver

which will make it more likely, I suspect, that Court proceedings could be taken against you. And if previous tickets are taken into consideration that could well add up

to a very hefty fine.

 

On what basis could they issue proceedings and where would this hefty fiine come from?

 

Personally if it was £1 a day I would pay that as it it not an exhorbitant charge

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lookinforinfo - I'm in Scotland. I believe the new leg doesn't affect us??

 

Also, if they lose £1 every day I don't pay and stay for over 3 hours, how can they reasonably claim more than that from me if they take me to court?

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Indeed and generally I would agree. However I have no desire to make suggestions on an open forum which would aid the parking companies.

 

That was the reason. But your point is well taken.

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On what basis could they issue proceedings and where would this hefty fiine come from?

 

Personally if it was £1 a day I would pay that as it it not an exhorbitant charge

 

Well first of all the company could charge him with theft-for instance section 3 of the Theft Act-"making off without payment" that carries a maximum penalty

of 2 years and 6 months in jail. As the OP is an habitual offender the sentence would probably be higher than were it an isolated incident. There would be

no mitigating circumstances that would stand up.

In addition there could be a case possibly bought under the Fraud Act and there is still the tort of Trespass. Whatever charge is brought I can't imagine most

Judges not cracking down hard on the OP should he be found guilty since the actual payment required is so low in the first place.

 

PS I would add that the longer the OP continues, the more likely it will be that he is taken to Court rather than they just give up.

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Because it's £1 that you have to walk through a shopping mall to an office to pay and it only allows you to park on the top floor of a dodgy multi storey car park. The bit where I actually park is right outside my office. it has a 3 hour limit and a fine if you are over 3 hours. You can't actually pay to park in that bit.

 

Anyway, I have seen the error in my ways and I don't want to tempt fate. I'll continue to try my best to adhere to the T&C's but also continue to ignore tickets on the occasions when I get them.

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Well first of all the company could charge him with theft-for instance section 3 of the Theft Act-"making off without payment" that carries a maximum penalty

of 2 years and 6 months in jail. As the OP is an habitual offender the sentence would probably be higher than were it an isolated incident. There would be

no mitigating circumstances that would stand up.

In addition there could be a case possibly bought under the Fraud Act and there is still the tort of Trespass. Whatever charge is brought I can't imagine most

Judges not cracking down hard on the OP should he be found guilty since the actual payment required is so low in the first place.

 

PS I would add that the longer the OP continues, the more likely it will be that he is taken to Court rather than they just give up.

 

I'm not buying the Theft theory. you can't actually pay to park in the bit I park (I know I said you could earlier) so I haven't left without paying.

 

The is not fraud involved and we cannot trespass in Scotland (I think).

 

Still, I've bottled it and I am giving up my quest.

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