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    • Speaking of the reformatory boys, here they are with all of their supporters, some of whom traveled with them from miles away, all carefully crammed together and photographed to look like there were more than about 80 .. rather like Farages last rally with even fewer people crammed around what looked like an ice cream van or mobile tea bar ... Although a number in the crowd apparently thought they were at a vintage car rally as they appeared to be chanting 'crank-her'. A vintage Bentley must be out of view.   Is this all there is? Its less than the Tory candidate. - shut up and smile while they get a camera angle that looks better
    • in order for us to help you we require the following information:- Which Court have you received the claim from ? Canterbury If possible please scan redact and upload a full page copy of page 1 of the claim form. ( Name of the Claimant ? Moneybarn No 1   How many defendant's  joint or self ? One Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to. 29/05/24 Acknowledged by 14/06/24  Defence by 29/06/24  Particulars of Claim PARTICULARS OF CLAIM   1.  By a Conditional Sale Agreement in writing made on 25th August 2022. Between the Claimant and Defendant, the Claimant let to the Defendant on Conditional Sale. A Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi (200 P S) 4x4 Wildtrack  Double Cab Pickup 3200cc (Sep.2015) Registration No, ******* Chassis number ***************** (“The Vehicle”).  A copy of the agreement is attached   2.  The price of the goods was £15,995.00.  The Initial Rental was £8500.00.  The total charge for credit was £3575.;17 And the balance of £11,070.17 was payable by 59 equal consecutive monthly instalments of £187 63. payable on the 25th of each month.   3.  The following were expressed conditions of the set agreement,   Clause 8: Our Right to End this Agreement  8.1   Subject to sending you the notice as required by law, any of the following events will entitle us to end this Agreement: 8.1.2  You fail to pay the advance payment (if any) or any of the payments as specified on the front page of this agreement or any other sum payable under this Agreement. 8.1.3 If any of the information you have given us before entering into this Agreement or during the term of this Agreement was false 8.1.4 We consider, acting reasonably, that the goods may be in jeopardy or that our rights in the goods may otherwise be prejudiced. 8.1.5 If you die 8.1.6 If a bankruptcy petition is presented against you; if you petition for your own bankruptcy, or make a live arrangement with your creditors or call a meeting of them. 8. 1.7 If in Scotland, you become insolvent or sequestration or a receiver, judicial factor or trustee to be appointed over any of your estate, or effects or suffer an arrestment, charge attachment or other diligence to be issued or levied on any of your estate or effects or suffer any exercise, or threatened exercise of landlords hype hypothec 8.1.8 If you are a partnership, you are dissolved 8.1.9 If the goods are destroyed, lost, stolen and/or treated by the insurer as a total loss in response to an insurance claim. 8.1.10 If we reasonably believe any payment made to us in respect of this Agreement is a proceed of crime. 8.1.11 If steps are taken by us to terminate any other agreement which you have entered into with us.   Clause 9.  Effect of Us Terminating Agreement   9.1 If this Agreement terminates under clause 8 the following will apply 9.1.1 Subject to the rights given to you by law, you will no longer be entitled to possession of the goods and must return them to us to an address as we may reasonably specify, (removing or commencing the removal of any cherished plates) together with a V5 registration certificate, both sets of keys and a service record book. If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate   4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:-   a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement number 756050. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     Thw total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by Firrst class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges ]= 5.  A the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or  alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage.   Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs.   Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024   What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg
    • Now that is an interesting article which adds afew perspective that I hadn't thought significant - but on reflection of the perspectives offered ... Now Starmer is no Blair, however 'blairite he may be perceived, but the Tories aren't tories and aren't even remotely liberal   The fast 'unannounced and unexpected election call from sunack may well be explained by the opinion linked that he hoped reform would be unprepared and effectively call a chunk of Farages largely empty bluster - making him look even more of a prat, leave scope for attacks on shabby reform candidates and mimimise core vote losses to reform - while throwing the 'middle ground' (relative) tories TO THE DOGS - and with the added bonus of likely pacifying his missu' desire to jogg off to sunny cal tout suite somewhat   thumb in the air - I expect about 140ish tory seats, but can hope for under a hundred Reform - got to admit the outside possibility of 1, maybe 2 seats with about 8% of the vote - but unlikely. I think projections of over 10% of the vote for reform is nudged and paid for speculation - but possible with the expected massive drives from Russian, Chinese and far right social media bot and troll prods targeting the gullible.
    • Commentary June 2024 WWW.ELECTORALCALCULUS.CO.UK Interesting article about just how bad it could be for the Tories.  Also Tories could be hoping on Reform not having candidates in many seats, as they were not ready.  
    • Even a Piers Morgan is an improvement and a gutless Farage Piers Morgan calls for second Brexit referendum WWW.THELONDONECONOMIC.COM Piers Morgan and Nigel Farage have faced off over Brexit and a second referendum in a heated reunion on BBC Question Time.   “Why don’t we have another referendum about Brexit?” he questioned. “I seem to remember when 2016 came around we were told there was going to be control of our borders and it was going to be economically beneficial to this country. And eight years later we have lost complete control of our borders… and economically it seems to have been a wilful act of self-harm.”   ... Piers missed off : after all somebody said a 48/52 decision would be "unfinished business" by a long way - was that person just bul lying (again)  
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The government plan for the sick and disabled to lose 70% of their benefit support if they fail to comply with mandated work-related activities, this equates to £71 per week- hang on! I recognise this figure, the good old assessment rate.

 

So let me get this right, if a claimant fails to comply with work related activity they get to keep the work related component and lose the non work related component, and this makes sense?

 

The government now considers that, as a claimant has either passed the WCA or won a place on WRAG via appeal, that they are unfit for paid employment but fit for unpaid employment.

 

What happens at the next WCA? The claimant is told that as they managed to successfully complete periods of work related activity they are obviously fit for work?

 

OK I'll appeal, feel free but from next year we are bringing in mandatory revision before appeal, so you won't get any benefits while waiting for your appeal, unless you want to claim JSA in which case you're fit for work.

 

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The government plan for the sick and disabled to lose 70% of their benefit support if they fail to comply with mandated work-related activities, this equates to £71 per week- hang on! I recognise this figure, the good old assessment rate.

 

Their logic is more likely to be that when JSA claimants are sanctioned they lose all their benefit which is approx £71, so those on ESA WRAG can lose the same when sanctioned.

 

So let me get this right, if a claimant fails to comply with work related activity they get to keep the work related component and lose the non work related component, and this makes sense?
Wait until they bring in universal credit, they will take a % of all benefit when sanctioned.

 

The government now considers that, as a claimant has either passed the WCA or won a place on WRAG via appeal, that they are unfit for paid employment but fit for unpaid employment.
That is what they are trying to push forward. They will push it forward as trying to get the long term sick into a routine ready for work.

 

What happens at the next WCA? The claimant is told that as they managed to successfully complete periods of work related activity they are obviously fit for work?
Yep, either lose your benefit through sanctions for missing mandated work, or lose your benefit due to being well enough to attend mandated work.

 

OK I'll appeal, feel free but from next year we are bringing in mandatory revision before appeal, so you won't get any benefits while waiting for your appeal, unless you want to claim JSA in which case you're fit for work.
It will be the only way they can cut down on appeals made. That is what they want, and they will get it by any means apart from making the WCA fit for purpose.
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The Tory party are considering changing their name to the National Socialist British Workers' Party. They claim it is in order to appeal to British socialists and workers, but I suspect there are more sinister reasons behind it. Arbeit macht frei!

 

 

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Besides BUF is a naff sounding name for a political party, plus it's already been used ;)

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The same as what happens when your GP and specialists say you can't wok and ATOS says you can.

 

Don't know how its going to fit in with Health and Safety at Work and employers insurance though; disabled people having accidents at work or even heart attacks. Perhaps when Joe public has to work alongside "these people" they may wake up to what is going on. They've managed to keep the protests out of the news so far but people will find out when they go too far (hopefully).

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The Tory party are considering changing their name to the National Socialist British Workers' Party
NSBWP which is quite similar to NSDAP ( Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei)

 

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Don't know how its going to fit in with Health and Safety at Work and employers insurance though; disabled people having accidents at work or even heart attacks. Perhaps when Joe public has to work alongside "these people" they may wake up to what is going on. They've managed to keep the protests out of the news so far but people will find out when they go too far (hopefully).
Which might just be the thing that scuppers the plan, 'participants' would have to be placed in work situations that could not ever endanger their or anyone else s well being, or employers will refuse referrals due to insurance implications.

 

If the proposals go ahead regardless, I would expect the no win no fee lawyers to be rubbing their collective hands together at the prospect of a huge influx of personal injury claims from WRAG participants that have injured themselves after being asked to complete inappropriate tasks, these proposals are also possibly in breach of the Equality act.

 

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So, what happens if you're put in WRAG, sent on this work placement and your GP writes a fit note saying you can't work?

 

I am only guessing,..

As the WRAG is now, you are expected to perform "work related activity" to receive Benefit. If they are able to change the meaning of "work related activity" to include actually working, then if you do not do the work, you are not fulfilling what is needed to receive the benefit. Or, maybe they will just take the GP out of the equation, and if you feel too ill to partake, you will have to see an "Health care professional" to see if the right boxes get ticked to allow you time off.

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"If they are able to change the meaning of "work related activity" to include actually working, then if you do not do the work, you are not fulfilling what is needed to receive the benefit."

If that happened they'd have to reassess everyone in the WRAG first wouldn't they? It would no longer be the same group.

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you have to read between the lines, esa is employment and support allowance, the wording tells it all.....employment, whilst giving support...they have already decided that everyone, and that includes everyone should work, even if it is for their benefits...the wrag group is simply the first in the queue...

they were never put into this group in order to access this benefit, it was always going to be a short term measure...remember 'no-one should be left on benefits for years and years' this includes all esa claimants, as soon as they have 'cracked' the wrag group, then rest assured they will move onto the support group, even that group now is given a 'time limited support' part of the allowance....be afraid guys be very afraid

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What needs to happen is a shift of focus, a more general education for the working population of the country something along the lines of

 

'Consider whether the NI contributions you are currently paying from your hard earned salary, is in fact an insurance for the future, or a cash cow for successive governments to plunder, the reality of the situation is, if you fall ill or out of work the perceived support net will disappear from under your feet, and you will be subjected to an ever decreasing income level culminating in probable destitution. So in the light of that, are you going to petition government to radically reduce your weekly/monthly contributions?'

 

I think if 'Joe Public' was made fully aware of the implications for him and his family, the government might well have a revolt on their hands.

 

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"If they are able to change the meaning of "work related activity" to include actually working, then if you do not do the work, you are not fulfilling what is needed to receive the benefit."

If that happened they'd have to reassess everyone in the WRAG first wouldn't they? It would no longer be the same group.

 

It would still be the same group, they would just be adding to what "work related activity" actually is. They already put forward it can be anything "reasonable in circumstances", they just push it forward that it is reasonable to get WRAG ready for work by sending them to work, err, "work training".

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'Consider whether the NI contributions you are currently paying from your hard earned salary, is in fact an insurance for the future,...............

 

They are starting the "automatic enrolment into workplace pensions" from next month. That will be the first stage of the removal of state pensions.

http://www.dwp.gov.uk/newsroom/press-releases/2012/sep-2012/dwp097-12.shtml

I wonder which bankers will be investing the money from that [into their bonus schemes]

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This may sound awful, but I seriously cannot wait until they force a few people with say...schizophrenia...into a public service job and they have an 'episode'. Pretty sure the work providers would live to regret taking the easy option of free workers then.

 

The government plans are just simply barbaric to me. And I seriously hope this bites them on the arse, and I suspect it might.

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I reckon it will only be those without obvious serious health issues that will get placed, how many business will be willing to pay out for special needs even if the labour is free? The providers will simply park the difficult cases, it's all very well for the government to assume that WP providers will place WRAG claimants, but the reality of the task might prove to be somewhat difficult.

 

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Being poor is like being a Pelican. No matter where you look, all you see is a large bill.

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And how many would be willing to take on someone who can't do full time, needs a lot of time off, etc?

unfortunately it won't matter, if someone is off ill, they will simply stop their benefit for 'not participating in W2W' doctors notes will be not be taken any notice of, and they will replace the one 'slave' with another ad infinitum..until we 'learn through tough love' that we either get a job or endure this farce....

I read that someone saying we ought to inform the working public that their NI contributions will leave them with no safety net....the wider population on the whole don't care, they have readily fallen for the lie that we are all benefit scroungers and unless it affects them it is a case of 'I'm all right jack' and the rest of you can get one of the non-existent jobs..of which there are plenty!!!they havent even realised that they are already paying in for a pension via NI and have been conned that they have to save extra for their pension each month by entering a new scheme!! some paid by employer and some paid by employee....the people of this country seem to half asleep to the damage this govt is causing, and dont think they will wake up until its too late

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The reality will be that no one can be forced to do something that Atos has assessed them as not being able to do - they cannot say you cannot do something on one hand, then expect you to do it. What I expect will happen is that work programme providers will get more detailed info on capabilities, and then will try to shoehorn some type of 'work experience' into the person's capabilities. I expect many appeals.

 

I actually have no issue with someone being asked to consider a little voluntary work if they are capable of doing it. But I don't believe it should be manadatory on WRAG, and I am very much against benefit claimants being made to do unpaid work for profit making companies.

 

I just hope that I'm well enough by next April (my next assessment date) to be able to do some part time freelance benefit work. I expect once the legal aid bill goes through there'll be a need for freelancers charging minimal fees, especially with all the changes going through and the need for people to have help and representation.

We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office ~ Aesop

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The same as what happens when your GP and specialists say you can't wok and ATOS says you can.

 

Don't know how its going to fit in with Health and Safety at Work and employers insurance though; disabled people having accidents at work or even heart attacks. Perhaps when Joe public has to work alongside "these people" they may wake up to what is going on. They've managed to keep the protests out of the news so far but people will find out when they go too far (hopefully).

 

Aren't they bringing in that GP's can only sign people off for 4 weeks and then people have to be signed off by a DWP doc. I think they're piloting it at the moment.

We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office ~ Aesop

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