PCN debt recovery and prosecution-byelaw14

[tiwari]

HELP!

 

Back in April at the Rainham Kent train station I parked my car.

 

Due to poor parking by the car next to me, my car was at a slight angle, meaning i was crossing the white line slightly.

 

I returned to find a £45 penalty notice,

which I was furious about

- especially since I had paid to park for the day,

and was at the furthest end of the car park in any case.

 

I wrote a letter, explaining that I had paid to park and the circumstances of my parking.

 

Today I received a letter saying that under

 

"Railway Byelaw 14, a Parking Charge Notice number was issued because the vehicle was allegedly involved in teh following parking not parked correctly within a marked bay at Rainham Railway Station Car Park

 

.....

 

It is now too late to pay the 50% discounted rate or appeal.

The parking charge now due is £90 and this must be paid in accordance with the instructions below within 14 days of the date of this letter.

if you fail to pay this charge in full within 14 days, the charge will increase to £165.

 

Further failure to pay the increased amount will result in a Magistrates Court Summons against you under Railway Byelaws

and may result in a Court fine of up to £1000 in addition to any compensation or court costs.

A collection order may be made by the court to recover any unpaid penalties.'

 

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Help!! Where do i stand with this? is it legitimate?

[SURFBOY]

Do they outline any way to appeal this at all?

[tiwari]

hi surfboy- it says that it is now too late to appeal- but when i first recieved the notice on my car that day, i sent an appeal letter- to which noone responded!

[dx100uk]

WHO was the org ticket with

 

if it is not the RAILWAY COMPANY issuing the ticket [i suspect not as it says parking charge notice]

but some PPC then ignore

 

dx

[tiwari]

hiya- org ticket, like original? honestly, im not sure, but this one is:

'London and South Eastern Railway Limited trading as Debt recovery and Prosecution Services'

(in small print at the bottom of the letter!)

 

Do they have any legitiamte claim?

[dx100uk]

i think you've got a realone there

the OWNER is envolking the byelaw so its cough time.

 

dx

[tiwari]

as in the owner of the car park?

 

Can i not dispute as byelaw 14 refers to obstructions- which i didnt cause?

[SURFBOY]

You could try and plead your case at the magistrates.

But , as i understand it, if you lose you have to pay costs as well. (i stand to be corrected if i am wrong.)

[tiwari]

Do you know the conditions under which their claim to fine me is legitimate?

[dx100uk]

by the way you parked you 'obstructed' another space being used properly

hope the other guy got one too then!!

 

 

dx

[dx100uk]

99% of car parks have CCTV.

 

did you not refer to the fact you HAD to park in such a manner and for then to LOOK at the CCTV>?

dx

[tiwari]

yep, wrote this in the letter i sent originally- and in the original letter, asked taht someone come back to me.

 

since i didnt hear back- i assumed they had taken my point and the matter was resolved...

[dw190]

This place have been mentioned on other sites and nothing appears to happen. The couple I read up on were well passed the sell by date without any actions.

[Surfer01]

Do you still have the original ticket and if so, what does it say at the top of the original ticket, not the follow up letters If you can scan and use photobucket all the better.

[tiwari]

dw 190- thank you, i noticed the same thing, but was keen to be sure...

 

surfer- im so cross with myself, i think i threw it away last month when i was goingthrough paperwork- thinking, it had been 3 months, and no word. :s

[dx100uk]

you are there everyday?

 

go back thake a picture of the sighns

 

i bet its a PPC that runs it.

the letter is ambiguios

 

it mentions mags an county court.

 

dx

[dx100uk]

can you scan it up

 

 

scan the required letters/agreements/sheets - as a picture[jpg] file

don't forget you can use a mobile phone or a digital camera too!!

or

convert existing PC files to PDF [office has an installable print to PDF option]

.

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BUT......

ENSURE: remove all pers info inc barcodes etc using paint program

but leave all figures and dates.

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goto one of the many free online pdf converter websites

it would be better to upload a multipage pdf if

you have many images too rather than many single pdfs

.

or if you have PDF as an installed printer drive use that

or use word and save as pdf

.

open a new msg box here

hit go advanced below the msg box

hit manage attachments below that box

hit the add files button on the top right

hit select files, navigate to your file on your pc

hit upload files

.

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dx

[tiwari]

whats a PPC?

 

also- i didnt notice the bit about county court- where is it?

 

I will go back and have a look!

 

and am going to try taking photos now and putting them up!

 

thank you so much!

[tiwari]

here we go...

[dx100uk]

pdf please

 

follow the guide?

 

dx

[dx100uk]

sri the county bit is0 not on yours but on another

dx