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    • No hard or fast rules ...if you have referred to it or intend to refer to it and rely on a document as evidence it goes on the list as an exhibit. No you can raise that within your statement but remember that sec 69 is at the discretion of the court a judge may allow the full amount claimed or reduce it to a lower % or none at all. Yes the claimant must serve their N265 on you...any document on theirs that you do not have you can request a copy and then use in your statement. Will it assist your defence ?
    • Hi all, I have previously been helped by the wonderful people on these forums, which helped me out of debt and to a much stronger position that I am in today, for which I am eternally grateful. My debts were all cleared, I now have no debt (apart from a mortgage) and an excellent credit file. I did also show my gratitude with a donation, which even if it helps just one other person out of spiralling debt, it would have been worth it. Sadly, my elderly parents did also run up some debts a few years ago, some through loans and some through credit cards. A few years ago, my father had a medical episode which has left him paralysed on one side of his body and now is confined to a wheelchair, and is pretty much non verbal (he can only manage a handful of words, and gets confused easily). I'm seriously not sure how far any County Court Action would get against him due to his current state, if any of the DCAs were to proceed down that route. Luckily nonw have tried, but can only think that any action would be discontinued by a judge. Before his medical episode he did set up a payment plan with some of the DCAs that were chasing him, which have continused being paid to this day from his bank account. They are literally minimum amounts, but obviously these actions have kept those debts current. However, some of the other debts have since become statutory barred due to the time elapsed since the last COA. My mum does have Power of Attorney over his financial affairs so can act on his behalf, with me as backup if god forbid anything happens to my mum. Their wills are set up for everything to go to the other should either of them pass away, and then to their children upon the passing of both of them, with myself being named as the executor on both of their wills. I have recently been reading up on the role of an executor, and part of the duties is to pay any outstanding liabilities before distributing the remainder of the estate. I have seen, in several instances, of a recommendation of posting about any death in the local newspaper column and the gazette to limit any future liabilities as executor in case of any debts that are unknown to myself. But this does lead me onto the debts I do know about. Am I right in thinking that the current debts that my dad has been making token payments on would have to be repaid in full to the DCAs upon his death? If that is the case, is it worth negotiating a full and final settlement, with a discount, on his behalf now? And with the debts that are statutory barred, am I correct in presuming that they would not need to be paid upon my dad's death as they wouldn't be legally enforcable in court? Thanks in advance for all of your help!
    • Hello AndyOrch For the n265 please would the below list of documents be sufficient ? 1. Pre-Action protocols. Claimant confirmation that they have not complied or have only partially complied (last page of claimants N181 Direction Questionnaire) Dated 16/04/2024 2. Copy of the Lease - Dated 4th September 1998 3. Statement of account (up to 1st Feb 2024) - Dated 20/02/2024 (This shows a slightly different balance to the one included in the Claim form as theirs was only up to 24th Jan 2024) 4. CPR 31.14 Request - Dated 28/02/2024   With regards to the Claimants claim for interest under Section 69 of the County Courts Act 1984 where the amount is incorrectly calculated due to the account balance and also appears to be duplicated, should I list their POC ? Additionally should I include any e-mail exchanges (I don't have all as some went to junk and auto deleted due to an issue with my e-mail account and I was reliant on my phone for seeing e-mails) ? I don't have the last e-mail that was sent prior to the claim being issued. I guess that I can ask the claimant for a copy of this one ? The claimant has refused to action the CPR 31.14 request.  Regarding the Section 20 notices relating to the major works, should I include if we have a copy ? Is there anything else that I should include in the list relevant to our defence ? Will the claimant send us a similar list via N265 ? They did include a Continuation Sheet with their N244 giving a background of the case. Just wondering how we know all of the documents that they will rely on.   As always really appreciate any help and guidance that you can provide.
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Hi I have got as much as I can together! But sat took a turn for the worst and tried to take my own life so I now have mental health services involved and they will are coming to see me as today and will support me ! Theyare even writing a letter when my claim goes in to say what this has done to me ie my health! Am so worried but thanx for your advice xx

 

 

Folle what are you like ey! Well, it's good that they have now got involved, well, not good but you know what I mean. And I am glad they are going to support you. Nothing is worth taking your life for, certainly not the government! That would suit them too fine! x

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Thanx for that I just felt so desparate thinking about if they dod not believe me they may well prosecute me !but now the mental health team are involved ! They think whatever they do due to my mental state it won't be court as I would not be able to take it I mau be wrong! Thanx for all your help xx

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I am now under a psychiatric team ! Am so worried as I don't think that my ex they will believe because all I have is letters ! If they don't believe me and go back all those years then do u think I would go to prison so scared ! :(

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Hello again. I'm pleased you've got professional help. And it's only two days until you see the CAG now, isn't it?

 

Why wouldn't your ex believe you? From memory, isn't it his paperwork that doesn't stack up to prove where he was?

 

We've been through the prison thing and Erika had some reassuring words for you. I posted this further up the page.

 

'But don't forget what our guru Erika said in post #19, prosecution is very rare.'

 

My best, HB

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Hi I really think u should contact MH team re feeling anxious and worried! It's good that your recieving help however u will still have to sort the tax credit stuff out as to b honest they prob won't take into consideration how your feeling now as they will still want their money back! Are the MH team offering any practical support at all or have they just advised about CAB?

 

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hi thanx for your advice , i have been to c ab and they have written a letter on my behalf, just been told to send it off with all i have and wait there reply , the cab man reckons the next letter ill be a reply of overpayment and then i take that letter into cab and they will advise me. he put m mind at rest about prison x

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does other people that the next letter back will be money wanting to be paid back and if they do will they let me pay it back in stages or could it still go don the criminal route ?

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am still feeling very anxious ,but the cab think that they will prob send a letter for an overpyment and then told me to go back , my mental health team have been fab , does anyone have ang good advice , am still at my wits end but the end of the day what can i do i have 3 letters to say where he has been living and it is up to the hmrc to make up there minds , not really i can do , i keep writing on here becuse it is an out let , anyone have a any good advice

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Hi there, that's good you've been to cab and sounds like your getting good support! All u can do is give them wot u have and if you don't have the proof of your ex's add then not much you can do about it, it's really up to them to believe you. They basically want their money back and when you know how much it is then you can contact overpayments dept!

 

I was told that my overpayment could not be adjusted to what my entitlement would have been if I had made a joint claim, however, having spoken to a different compliance officer I have since been told that they can do this although still waiting for confirmation in writing! I was told they believed I should have made a joint claim and that I owe them money although I was not charged a penalty!

 

I'm not saying it will b the same for you as the situations will b different but just trying to offer some reassurance ! After I sent in all my info I heard back within 4 weeks!

 

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Hi maryja thanx for that , was nice of u to ansa ! God I don't think I can wait 4 wks will be swinging! I could not cope with it ! Why did they not charge you an overpayment ! Do u think that is what my reply will bw ! Cab man thought that ! Do they give u time to pay it back ! I can only give them what I have ! I realise they don't take many people to court the cab advised me that ! Am sending all my stuff in on monday x

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Hi, I'm not exactly sure how they work out the consequences although I was told that if at anypoimt in the future they felt I had given them wrong info on another occasion (the first being them saying I should have made joint and not single claim) then they could impose a penalty on top of any overpayment!

 

The reasons stated for them not believing my claim should have been a single claim was

ex bank account at my address

He applied for a credit card

and his p60s were listed at my address

 

that together with them being unable to locate ex at any other add, ie not being on electrol roll led them to conclusion that he must have been living with me and therefore asked me to provide proof of his address which I could not as he had no tenancy agreement or utility bills etc!

 

I think if it's a case of where they think you should have made a joint claim then they want their money back and it's unfortunate if your not in the position to offer them documents which goes in your favour to prove his address!

 

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It is my birthday today anf feel **** ! Have to sit around with the family take my mind off things ! Send stuff off monday and then see what happens part of me feels confident but the other half of me does not I have been reassured by so many people if they don't believe my ex letters they will go civily ! Any more reassurance guys ! Anyone else in this boat !

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Hello folle, happy birthday.

 

I can't tell what HMRC would do because I don't know. I think you've done all you can for now and that answers are on your thread.

 

I think you'll be OK, but nobody here can guess unfortunately. It's good that you have your family and others to support you.

 

My best, HB

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Thanx hb I am still a nervous wreck I thought the hmrc dealt with things civily I hope they do as it will finish me off ! I was very nervous round my family ! They know I had a breakdown but don't know why I am not going to worry them until I know the facts ! I am just hoping enrika is correct and they normally take the civil route x

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Good luck Folle keep us updated.

I had to call them this morning because I got a letter on Saturday so I rang bang on 8.00 am to be told they are only taking messages and will call me back this week some time !!!!

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Thanx for that I wull keep u updated! Is yours the same of thing! It is a stupid time in the morning and I can't slEeep ! This thing has taken over my life and I have a 12 year old daughter and it does not seem fair to her ! I feel like going to sleep and not waking up ! So stressed! X

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Yes Folle it is.

 

Where are you up to now with it all?

I cant stop crying, I can't eat, I feel like a bad mum to my kids and I am scared I will be locked up.

I just want to tell them to take me off the system and I will claim when I have my own place and my own bills etc.:sad:

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hi there, i have the same problem, please do not stress too much about it, i got the letter at the weekend, rang them this morning, they said they will call me back, they are that busy with lots of these!

 

i told the chap - he was actually quite nice, that i did need to change my claim, he said thats fine, he could do that, he is rining me back in a minute as his computer went down,i will update when he calls back.

 

to be honest, researching this thing on the internet, and the fact that they have such a high volume of this sort of thing - they will not prosecute, they will just get the money back off you - unless you have been making up children and such like i really think that if you are honest at the earliest point they will be ok.

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