Bbs alloys are not homologated for vw t5 transporter

[heliosuk]

Now that I can read it (albeit with a magnifying glass) what they are saying is that under TUV regs they have not been approved. This probably is because they have never tested them on your type of car and this will apply to many other makes as well. You've asked the wrong question of them. I could ask what you have of wifeys1998 Rav 4 and I'll get the same answer as you did.

 

What you need to be asking is do the wheels have type approval for use in the UK and do they have CE certification where the answer will most probably be yes. If the answer is yes then your claim is dead in the water so to speak. If it is no then you need to let us know.

 

You also need to be aware that you are more than likely invalidating any warranty applicable to your car in relation to chassis components where wheels fitted deviate from VW's recommended fitments. So if your new wheels are not VW and the car has a manufactuers warranty still applicable then it's bye bye any warranty.

[eugene123]

Now that I can read it (albeit with a magnifying glass) what they are saying is that under TUV regs they have not been approved. This probably is because they have never tested them on your type of car and this will apply to many other makes as well. You've asked the wrong question of them. I could ask what you have of wifeys1998 Rav 4 and I'll get the same answer as you did.

 

What you need to be asking is do the wheels have type approval for use in the UK and do they have CE certification where the answer will most probably be yes. If the answer is yes then your claim is dead in the water so to speak. If it is no then you need to let us know.

 

You also need to be aware that you are more than likely invalidating any warranty applicable to your car in relation to chassis components where wheels fitted deviate from VW's recommended fitments. So if your new wheels are not VW and the car has a manufactuers warranty still applicable then it's bye bye any warranty .

THANK YOU FOR GETTING BACK TO ME HEIOSUK , I AM SO GLAD you have a magnifying glass it really comes in handy sometimes , yes i understand they were never tested on my type of car t5 transporter , does that MEAN I DO HAVE TO TEST THEM , THAT IS A BIT UNFAIR ON ME , QUOTE DANGEROUS FOR ME TO DRIVE ON , AS I DID BUY THEM FOR A T5 TRANSPORTER OF PERFORMANCE ALLOY WEB SITE IN WHICH THEY DO ADVERIESE FOR THAT KIND OF MOTOR, SHOULD A FIRM LIKE PERFORMANCE ALLOYS EVEN SELL ME THESE ALLOYS WHEN BBS HAS TOLD ME THE T5 TRANSPORTER T30 LWB 180BHP IS TOO HEAVY FOR THE WHEEL , THIS IS A VERY POWERFUL MOTOR ,, THAT THE WHEEL IS NOT MADE FOR SUCH A WEIGHT ,, ALSO THEY SAID THEY NEVER DONE ANYTHING IN ORDER TO GET A OFFICIAL ALLOWANCE FOR THIS WHEEL TYPE TO RUN ON A T5 TRANSPORTER IN GB, IRELAND OR ANY OTHER COUNTRY , NOW DO I EGNORE WHAT BBS SAYS , DO I NOT TELL MY INSURANCE AGNECY , DO I STILL DRIVE ON THEM CXR , NOT GO BACK TO PERFORMANCE ALLOYS A TELL THEM ABOUT ALL OF THIS , AND FERGET ABOUT IT ALL , WELL I CAN INSURE YOU HELIOSUK THAT IS NOT THE WAY I WILL BE DOING IT ,,, AT THE END OF THE DAY THE TRANSPORTER IS TOO HEAVY FOR THE WHEEL ,,,, NOW ABOUT INVADLIDATING ON THE WARRANTY WITH THE WHEEL REALLY I AM AWARE OF ALL OF THAT ,, BUT THAT IS NOT MY ISSUE I AM TALKING ABOUT ,, problem is the wheels are only 720 kg per wheel 4 wheel = 2880 ofsett is et32 , issue is i was sold these alloys for a t5 t30 vw transporter lwb 180 bhp camper , IN WHICH BBS HAS SAID THE VEHICLE IS TOO HEAVY FOR WHEELS plus i said at time of buying alloys that i would be adding my own extra carrying good ,s MATERIALS , PLUS MAYBE TOWING A TRAILER FROM TIME TO TIME SO NOW I GATHER THE ALLOYS ARE LOW LOAD RATED FOR THIS T5 , THEY ARE THE PROFESSIONALS PERFORMANE ALLOYS ,, I WENT ON THERE ADIVESE FOR WHAT I TOLD THEM ,,,,, A AFRAID IT IS DOWN TO THEM , ? HOPE YOU CAN MAKE OUT WHAT I AM SAYING HELIOSUK ,, AS YOU MENTIONED IN ONE OF YOUR TREADS THE SELLER SOLD THEM IN GOOD FAITH , MAY I ASK WHAT IS GOOD ABOUT THAT ? SELING ME SOMETHING THAT IS NOT SUITABLE FOR MY T5 TRANSPORTE AND TAKEING MY £1400 BUT PLEASE GET BACK TO ME

HOPE THIS HELPS EUGENE

Edited November 3, 2011 by eugene123

[heliosuk]

Ok Eugene,

 

Now that you have bothered to supply some relevant details such as loading info you actually have something to go on. I have had a good look at BBS GMBH tonight and they are very no committal about the weight loadings the wheels are rated for. In fact it was quite interesting reading as nowhere do they supply this for any wheel so I'd be interested to hear where you got it from. What was intesting is that they refer to building wheels 4 times the recommended load characteristics. Hypothetically then, if they rated the wheel at 500kgs then they manufacture to 2000kg.

 

This is what they do not make clear or even advertise.

 

The axle load per corner from VW's website for what I think is your van is approx 788KG per wheel on front and on the rear 813KG.

 

Therefore on the assumption the wheels will be swopped around you should take the higher figure. 813KG. You cannot take the total rated rate and divide by 4 as the axle loads differ per car.

 

So as BBS (or where you have got the info from) rate the wheel at 720Kg then indeed it would APPEAR that the wheels are unsuitable.

 

Now on BBS own admission they produce wheels with a rating 4 times that they rate on you can see how murky this gets. This is freely promoted on their German website.

 

As regards your original complaint against the supplier then if they apply that principal then they have supplied as suitable. I suppose the difference will be the definition between suitable and recommended.

 

You still need to get the answers from BBS though, are they CE approved, do they meet with European type approval and can they officially state what the maximum recommended loading is.

 

By not declaring all info you have it's very hard to determine if you have a case of not and on the balance of probabilities at the moment I still think not. You chose the wheels, they were perhaps not recommended but are technically suitable.

 

I take it you have done the same exercise on your currently fitted aftermarket wheels??

 

I will reitterate again, whilst it looks good to have a nice set of wheels on your car, not is always as it seems and you run a huge risk with your warranty.

[eugene123]

Ok Eugene,

 

Now that you have bothered to supply some relevant details such as loading info you actually have something to go on. I have had a good look at BBS GMBH tonight and they are very no committal about the weight loadings the wheels are rated for. In fact it was quite interesting reading as nowhere do they supply this for any wheel so I'd be interested to hear where you got it from. What was intesting is that they refer to building wheels 4 times the recommended load characteristics. Hypothetically then, if they rated the wheel at 500kgs then they manufacture to 2000kg.

 

This is what they do not make clear or even advertise.

 

The axle load per corner from VW's website for what I think is your van is approx 788KG per wheel on front and on the rear 813KG.

 

Therefore on the assumption the wheels will be swopped around you should take the higher figure. 813KG. You cannot take the total rated rate and divide by 4 as the axle loads differ per car.

 

So as BBS (or where you have got the info from) rate the wheel at 720Kg then indeed it would APPEAR that the wheels are unsuitable.

 

Now on BBS own admission they produce wheels with a rating 4 times that they rate on you can see how murky this gets. This is freely promoted on their German website.

 

As regards your original complaint against the supplier then if they apply that principal then they have supplied as suitable. I suppose the difference will be the definition between suitable and recommended.

 

You still need to get the answers from BBS though, are they CE approved, do they meet with European type approval and can they officially state what the maximum recommended loading is.

 

By not declaring all info you have it's very hard to determine if you have a case of not and on the balance of probabilities at the moment I still think not. You chose the wheels, they were perhaps not recommended but are technically suitable.

 

I take it you have done the same exercise on your currently fitted aftermarket wheels??

 

I will reitterate again, whilst it looks good to have a nice set of wheels on your car, not is always as it seems and you run a huge risk with your warranty.

 

THANKS FROM GETTING BACK TO ME HELIOSUK. i refer to the loading issue i would have bothered long before now if i had know about this , but i getting well used to it now ,[ LEARNING FAST ] as i told you bbs are on my side , i get my information from bbs germany , ,, at the end of the day the wheels are not approvered for a t5 transporter ,, unsuitable , dangerous , but lets move on ?? talking about the word,s [ homologated ] [ approved ] [ approval ] [ type approval ] [ tuv approval ] [ suitable ] or even [ ce approval ] bbs have not approved the cxr for t5 t30 vw transporter 180 bhp camper,, you ask me if i had some exercise on the alloys , YES I HAD , but i am glad to have them of now its give me great relief too no that i am not driving around in something dangerous in them cxr bbs alloys 19 inch , in which i now have got myself new 18 alloys which was highly recommended by trained staff , NOTE , also they have the proper loading rate ,, SO YOU NEED NOT ADVISE ME ON THAT ISSUE AGAIN [ WARRANTY ] ,, i also did no vw would not stand over warranty with 19,s 0n , but your advise is always helpfull,, lets move on , yes the cxr 19 inch bbs 8.5j is only 720kg per wheel it says that on the TUV CERT that bbs germany sent me by email that is how i do no and it does not even mention t5 transporter on it ,, IT A PITY PERFORMANCE ALLOYS DID NOT NO ALL OF THIS BEFORE THEY SOLD ME THE ALLOY FOR MY T5 T30 LWB 180 BHP CAMPER , SHAME , IT WOULD HAVE SAVED ME A LOT OF MONEY ECT, you ask me to get answers from bbs about ce approved , and do they meet european type approval and state the maxinum loading , , may i say is that not enough for me that states 720kg on the tuv cert ,,,, MEAN ,S UNSUITABLE , DANGEROUS FOR ME TO DRIVE ON FOR MY T5 T30 180 BHP LWB CAMPER .,, NOTE,,, , PERFERMANCE ALLOYS KNEW THE FULL DETAILS OF VEHICLE WHEN I WAS BUYING THEM , PLUS HAD THEM ADVERTISE ON THERE WEB SITE WHICH STILL DOES for t5 transporter , may i say if they have ce approved or european type aproval on them this is still unsuitable for my t5 t30 vw 180 bhp lwb camper which clearly states 720 kg max ,,, so the end result is the t5 t30 vw transporter 180bhp lwb camper is to heavy for the wheel , also may i say i taken notice of your paragraph in which you said ??,, NOTE ,, [ PERHAPS ] THEY WERE NOT RECOMMENDED , i think you should be more careful in your wording ,, i must make it very clear to you heliosuk when i did see the alloys on perfermance web site for a t5 transporter i then did ring perfermance alloys for there advice on this wheel cxr 19 inch bbs 8.5j i told the sales guy what it was for which was a new t5 t30 vw lwb 180 bhp camper ,, NOTE ,, THE SALES GUY [ HIGHLY ] RECOMMENDED THESE ALLOYS FOR ME WHEN I DID ENQUIRE ABOUT THEM , NOTE , YES I CHOSE THE ALLOY OF PERFERMANCE ALLOYS WEB SITE TO ENQUIRE ABOUT IT , THEY ARE THE SO CALLED PROFESSIONAL IN TYPE OF TRADE TO ADVISE ME FOR THE RIGHT LOADING OF WHEEL FOR MY TYPE OF T5 T30 VW TRANSPORTER LWB CAMPER ,,, ,, SO TO DIVIDE THE TWO WORDS ,,, NOTE ,, RECOMMENDED AND SUITABLE , ITS DOWN TO ONE WORDS NOW AND THAT IS [[[ RECOMMENDED ]]] IN WHICH PPERFERMANCE ALLOYS DID RECOMMENDED THE ALLOYS FOR ME IN WHICH WERE THE WRONG LOADING RATE FOR MY T5 T30 LWB CAMPER ,, MAY BE ITS DOWN TO THE LECK OF EXPERIENCE FROM FERFORMANCE ALLOYS ALL AT MY COST HOPE THIS HELPS , PLEASE GET BACK TO ME THANKS EUGENE

[heliosuk]

Eugene,

 

I really would like to help you but you have to get off your high horse about this BBS and TUV thing. What might apply to Germany does not necessarilly apply to the UK. The system is similar but has very different regulations and this is for the UK type approval. Forget TUV.

 

It would also help if you would post the full info as well as requested from the proper sources.

 

I.e. only now have you declared that it is a T5 camper. I based what I said on a fully loaded T5 VAn fully loaded which makes a hell of a difference.

 

You don't seem to understand that if you are to make a case against a company you have to have good ground to do so. Many wheels fit so are ok to use in principal but whether they are suitable is a different thing. Where it become blurred is the rating. If you weighed a T5 van empty then the axle loads and the rating you have supplied would mean that indeed they are suitable.

 

So to make things easy please supply the following:

 

1. Ask BBS what is the maximum allowable load per wheel for the wheel's you have bought. Don't even mention what they are for.

2. Ask VW for the GVW axle loads for your T5 camper van. These are not published on their web site.

 

When you have this from both organisations divide the greater figure from VW by 2 and this will give you the load the BBS data has to be over.

 

If the BBS figures are lower then the wheels are suitable for use.

 

Then you get to the question did he recommend them or just say suitable. You say they recommended, he will say they said will fit, which they do. The company has no control as to whether or not you use them.

 

That aside, why did you not go for the 9J as these are "approved "by BBS as I recall, though might be wrong.

 

At the moment, Performance can use a multitude of answers to get out of this.

 

I cannot see how I can help you further unless you start dealing with this rationally. I appreciate it might sound a bit cruel but courts deal in facts and you can't make any attempt to have a pop at the supplier unless you have something solid to back it up with. This is what I am attempting to get you into a position to do.

[eugene123]

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Sorry Eugene I think you are wrong. BBS sell alloy wheels, they cannot know what they are going to fitted to. They make alloy wheels that comply with regulations such as type approval. This type approval means that hey are fit for purpose on a variety of cars.

 

If the wheels are outside of the type approval limits then they should not be sold for that fitment.

 

Where the sellar is concerned he sold them in good faith.

 

You need to be able to prove that they are unfit for puprose. You have a very weak case as invariably the problems you are seeing are down to the tyres. It is a complex mixture you have, you are working outside the bounds of engineering sign off. The wheels are legal, the wheel and tyre combination are also probably legal, the problem is that they do not match.

 

Which bit of you do not have a leg to stand on is not sinking in??

 

To repeat. You chose the wheels, you chose tyres. it turns out that they are not compatible. No body can be held responsible for the choice you made and you are quite probably working outside of the limits . It seems that there has been no effort to determine if the wheels are sound let alone the tyres.

 

There are many accesories available for cars, many unapproved, tow bars spring to mind and then we hear about problems.

 

In your case you have bought a set of wheels, had someone different to put a set of tyres on, now you have an issue. So you tell me who is responsible for your problem. BBS, the tyre manufactuer, the car manufactuer. Each one of these has complied.

 

Down to you I'm afraid.

hello again and thank for getting back to me , i think i told you i have moved away from this tuv thing ,in one of my tread ,s, drop that , let,s move on , you were talking about declaring it as a camper ,,,, PLEASE READ BACK SOME OF THE TREAD,S , , yes bbs has said they are 720 kg per wheel , max i have told you this before , the other ones that are approvered are 8.5j also they are 800kg but as you say they dont have to be approvered , also at time of buying i did tell performance alloys i would be putting more weight in t5 t30 camper as i would be using it for my work from time to time plus towing a trailer , as i am a gardener so that would mean carrying bags of bark , bags of coloured stones , gardening pavers , bags of sand , tools ,equipment, ect , as later on i was thinking of cutting the cost of transport down by just useing the one vehicle which was going to be the t5 t30 transporter lwb 180 bhp camper and trailer ,, i just wish they did listen to me at the time of buying ,,,, i total went on there advice on this issue ,,, so i would say the retailer sold me the cxr that is not suited for customers need,s either by bad selling pratice or by operating in a dangerous and un responsible means ,, EG BY SELLING A PRODUCT THAT COULD BE DEEMED DANGEROUS ,, on the ground ,s what i told him on the phone , ,, NOTE ,, may i also say i did ring alloy wheelbase .uk to find out if they would sell the cxr to me for the camper they said it was not approvered for t5 but fitted ok , but if i wanted to buy it it would be my own choice and they would have to put that on the INVOICE ,, i called that good selling practise ,,by the way i did buy the wheels for use not for show and they will fit , ,, but unfit for purpose ,, i also have posted the axle loads for t5 camper thank you eugene please get back to me ,, or maybe you feel its getting to much for you ,, please let me know otherwise thanks,,,, note ,, but your advise is alway helpfull i am sure in this field ,, Edited November 5, 2011 by eugene123

[eugene123]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]31258[/ATTACH]this is the vw axl[ATTACH=CONFIG]31256[/ATTACH]e load also the tuv saying the is only 720 kg [ATTACH=CONFIG]31257[/ATTACH] i did write my last tread under your second last tread forgive me for that , also may i say you have notice on axle 2 of picture it says 1600 kg that mean the alloys have to be a t least 800kg per alloy to the rear , also on your last tread i cannot get my head around 1 or 2 of your paragraph ???? could you explain yourself more about this i will also send on a attach of what you said Edited November 5, 2011 by eugene123

[eugene123]

more files for cxr

[eugene123]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]31259[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]31258[/ATTACH]this is the vw axl[ATTACH=CONFIG]31256[/ATTACH]e load also the tuv saying the is only 720 kg [ATTACH=CONFIG]31257[/ATTACH] i did write my last tread under your second last tread forgive me for that , also may i say you have notice on axle 2 of picture it says 1600 kg that mean the alloys have to be a t least 800kg per alloy to the rear , also on your last tread i cannot get my head around 1 or 2 of your paragraph ???? could you explain yourself more about this i will also send on a attach of what you said

[heliosuk]

Great stuff Eugene. I can't read all of it but what I can see is enough to say you have a good grounding to proceed further.

 

What you need to do next is get a screen shot from the supplier saying that the wheels are suitable. I have looked and it is there though it refers to A T5 transporter, not a camper.

 

Get this anyway. What I am asking you to do is get sufficient evidence to back your claim against the supplier.

 

Once you have all the evidence that can't be challenged then we can get some of the legal peeps who frequent this forum to help out with a letter rejecting the goods and show the supporting evidence why.

 

Have you had an official response in writing from the supplier yet?

[eugene123]

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Great stuff Eugene. I can't read all of it but what I can see is enough to say you have a good grounding to proceed further.

 

What you need to do next is get a screen shot from the supplier saying that the wheels are suitable. I have looked and it is there though it refers to A T5 transporter, not a camper.

 

Get this anyway. What I am asking you to do is get sufficient evidence to back your claim against the supplier.

 

Once you have all the evidence that can't be challenged then we can get some of the legal peeps who frequent this forum to help out with a letter rejecting the goods and show the supporting evidence why.

 

Have you had an official response in writing from the supplier yet?

Edited November 6, 2011 by eugene123

[eugene123]

]thank you heliosuk for getting back to me , i have sent you on a picture file to ask you what do you mean about this paragarph on file , forgive me maybe i am wrong , i really do not no is it higher or lower , ,, by the way eny work you are doing for me i woud really like to thank you for doing a good job plus this is the last email perfermance alloys send to me] in which i went to performance alloys with the kits set on the 29/10/11 tony had a look at the centre rings in the alloys . , i said for him to take back the alloys because they were not suitable because of loading rate , and i was wrongly advise by sales as he recommended them to me a perfect , he also said i chose the alloy because i like them , in which i do love the alloys , but also i love them to be suitable and not road worthy , dangerous ect , and they were highly recommended by sales guy in which i went on his advise , he said no he was not takeing them back ,, so that was end of that i left performance aloys with wheels again ,, i also left back a set of wheels nut in which they sent out to me in the first place with aloys which were wrong , my tyre man advise me not to put on the wheel nuts because they were to short , so i had to ring performance alloys quite a few time to get them to send out the correct ones , they come from rimstyle .uk in england in which i believe that is where the cxr come from in the first place they work together ?? i found this out later , i was told they are a agent for bbs germany thanks eugene note but on the day i went to him he said the insurance companys said it was ok his email was sent on 27/10/11 so maybe he got his infornation on the 28/10/11,, writeing only by email from perfermance alloys,, i also have made tradeing standers know about all of there carry on also .

Edited November 7, 2011 by eugene123

[eugene123]

this is the 3 files thanks eugene also this is my second last email i sented to tony @performance alloys

Edited November 6, 2011 by eugene123

[eugene123]

Edited November 7, 2011 by eugene123

[ScarletPimpernel]

Having lived in the Fatherland in the past, and indeed purchased alloy wheels for my car, I have some experience of the TUV thing. As with most things in Deutschland, the purchase and fitting of alloy wheels is regulated by law, and anyone who disobeys will be shot, or at least issued with a fine. Fitting wheels that have not been TUV-approved for the type of car is verboten; they even enter the details of the wheels on the registration papers, and if you get stopped by the Polizei they will check.

[eugene123]

Having lived in the Fatherland in the past, and indeed purchased alloy wheels for my car, I have some experience of the TUV thing. As with most things in Deutschland, the purchase and fitting of alloy wheels is regulated by law, and anyone who disobeys will be shot, or at least issued with a fine. Fitting wheels that have not been TUV-approved for the type of car is verboten; they even enter the details of the wheels on the registration papers, and if you get stopped by the Polizei they will check.

great stuff ,, i wish the same idear would be over here in uk or ireland

[eugene123]

i am still waiting for someone to help me om this issue

[eugene123]

Great stuff Eugene. I can't read all of it but what I can see is enough to say you have a good grounding to proceed further.

 

What you need to do next is get a screen shot from the supplier saying that the wheels are suitable. I have looked and it is there though it refers to A T5 transporter, not a camper.

 

Get this anyway. What I am asking you to do is get sufficient evidence to back your claim against the supplier.

 

Once you have all the evidence that can't be challenged then we can get some of the legal peeps who frequent this forum to help out with a letter rejecting the goods and show the supporting evidence why.

 

Have you had an official response in writing from the supplier yet?

 

could someone tell me where heliosuk has gone to i through he was helping me out

[eugene123]

could someone tell me where heliosuk has gone to i through he was helping me out

please heliosuk could you please advise me what to do now as this issue is still ongoing thanks

[eugene123]

Would some one please please , help

[MARTIN3030]

eugene-although this is getting on for 5 months down the line,there has been substantial input.The images posted are very small and need to be readable.

I will ask one of our site team to come and give you help in posting them.

Patience is a virtue-and to suggest that you have been let down here is a little undeserving.

Once the 3 responses of last comms are clearly visible,then I am sure there will be continued input.

I note you mentioned trading standards-what was the result of that complaint ?

[heliosuk]

Not any more unfortunately Eugene as regards me.

 

This site is too dictatorial, does not recognise free speech and seems to be controlled by posters whom pay more attention to their reputation than actually dealing with problems and reality.

 

The beauty of this site is that it encompasses a cross section of society who can argue a case whether it be right or wrong. However it would seem that lately there has been intervention from the moderators where a member who has raised some valid points has been attacked and consequentially has been banned on the basis of one particular members complaints. This to me is unacceptable.

 

Now as regards your particular problem, you have hardly taken any advice I have given you or responded where I can see the details.

 

Frankly I think you have no where to go though would work with you to resolve the problem. However I no longer have any inclination to do so due to a matter of principal.

 

Untill this site sorts itself out then I am out of the game so to speak.

 

I watched the site elsewhere and notice that you commented "heliosuk has let you down"....................er...........no he has not. The moderators have. I'll help you as best I can but am not prepared to do so in an un frre forum!

 

Obiviously they are worried about this as they have removed your post where you mention I have let you down.

 

It's all quite pathetic really.

Edited February 12, 2012 by heliosuk
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[sailor sam]

Can I just point out that the situ to which Helio is referring to came about

from the 'dodgy MOT' thread in which my advice was being constantly attacked by the member who no longer seems to be with us.

His input was very suspect as at least 1 member of the site team will confirm.

 

That member had been 'following me' for some time and yes, finally I bought it to the atetntion of the site team.

 

It now seems that in fact that my input was correct as the OP on that thread (which had to be closed) has since confirmed.

So job done as far as i'm concerned, another satisfied 'customer' which is the whole point of this site.

 

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