Ingeus

[boomboomboom]

They could find out if they wanted to check. And if it was still within the 90 mins travelling time they could sanction if he turned the job down because of the distance.

 

he was not asked to apply from the job centre it was him putting to aldi and hoping for a bit closer to home but when he got a phoned it was on the spot phone interview and so i dont really think they would speak to the job centre as they have no right to get in contact with a employer that u did at your own accord without your permission

[boomboomboom]

Even if all else fails and you have to attend, it's always possible to 'screw up' an unwanted interview - the trick is to make it seem like you're not doing it on purpose!

 

Note that if it's for a job that the JC found for you then they're allowed to contact the employer for feedback, so be careful how you go on at the interview. However if it's for a job you found for yourself then they can't contact the employer without your express permission.

 

u screw up a group interview or just a interview?

 

well he did the same thing as me and sent cvs to aldi and they returned a call back withing a few weeks just out the blue and did a phone interview so the job centre or WP cant do anything as it was us that sent the cvs away so there was no job put up so everything should be fine that he did not answer the phone to them surely? am i correct?

[jasta11]

If he found the job himself then it's entirely up to him if he proceeds with it or calls it all off - nothing to do with the JC at all. Don't even list it on your jobsearch evidence then they can't ask anything about it.

 

In the past I've applied for jobs I didn't want just to make up the numbers for my jobsearch evidence and had the odd phone call from the employer - I just said 'Thanks but I've got a job now so I won't be taking my application further'.

[boomboomboom]

does anyone know when u get payed your jsa as i sign on tomorrow but a get my money on the following Monday but its bank holiday friday and monday so would i get payed on the Thursday this week?

[essexmat]

You should get the money credited for use early. This happened to me over Xmas. I sign on Thursdays so paid on a Tuesday but you should not have to wait longer for payments. If your JCP is organised the money pushing button should have been pushed today

[boomboomboom]

You should get the money credited for use early. This happened to me over Xmas. I sign on Thursdays so paid on a Tuesday but you should not have to wait longer for payments. If your JCP is organised the money pushing button should have been pushed today

 

well i sign on tomorrow i forgot it was bank holiday Friday and Monday and i get paid on the Monday so i should get my jsa benefit on Thursday as i dont think i would have to wait to the Tuesday

[boomboomboom]

well i dont think so now as i live in scotland i dont think there is a bank hoilday on monday think its just in england and northern ireland i may be wrong but

[essexmat]

I was due to see INGEUS today at 1.30 and have just had a text from the receptionist there saying my adviser is ill and a new appointment would be sent in the post. Not even a call just a text. Unfortunately I have to go there anyway as it is my signing on day so I will ask for my fares as normal as I think that is fair. Result though as I don't have to listen to a load of old waffle today!

[Mr.P]

Modern technology has multiple modes of reciprocal failure - Who is to say the text message arrived or even got read in good time.

 

Go in, claim back your travel expenses, get proof of attendance, and avoid any prospect of a sanction.

 

 

 

 

 

Ill my ****. Long bank holiday weekend, probably swinging the lead to turn it in to a longer break.

[essexmat]

Not happy. Just turned up to sign on at INGEUS as JCP rep is there when I sign on and have my appointment. They wouldn't pay my fare as my adviser wasn't in to see me even though I had to attend to sign on. They argued it wasn't an INGEUS appointment and cannot pay for signing on. Told them I was due an appointment but it was cancelled and they still wouldn't pay. Will take it further. Going to email head office as £3.75 is a lot to me.

[jasta11]

Worth a try - I hope you get the money, but as your appointment with Ingeus was cancelled and you're signing on on your usual day, I'd be surprised if they paid up. Stranger things have happened though! Good luck.

[Shendor]

I just wanted to throw my two 'penneth into this thread, as I've been following it for so long now. INGEUS are a joke - a private tender money-making exercise whereby I'm sure some company directors are currently sitting in their massive villas in Marbella and laughing as they sip sangria and read the British newspapers, but everyone else who works for them on the frontline and everyone who is subjected to their cack-handed, under-resourced, under-trained and frankly pointless rules are slowly going insane.

I was on WP for two years with INGEUS, finished in November, I found the first year really hard-going because I mistakenly believed they were being paid to help me find work. But once I'd realised what a shell game set up it was, I learned how to jump through their hoops and 'play the game' to keep my benefits. What a joke. What a true shame. I'm still unemployed and getting JSA - all the two years on WP did was put another level of bureaucracy and pointless accountability into my day, stopping me from looking for real jobs. Jumping through their hoops became a full time job in itself.

My heart goes out to anyone who's just starting with these muppets. My advice is just learn how to play the game - we can't win by being rational or moral with people like this. Just accept they're a bunch of ***s working under a system designed to catch you out and get you sanctioned. Grin and bear it, keep your head down and get through it till your sentence is over. May it pass quickly.

Edited April 17, 2014 by honeybee13
Pejorative term.

[essexmat]

Email from head office - payment will be made on my next appointment so double next time - always worth asking!

[essexmat]

I just wanted to throw my two 'penneth into this thread, as I've been following it for so long now. INGEUS are a joke - a private tender money-making exercise whereby I'm sure some company directors are currently sitting in their massive villas in Marbella and laughing as they sip sangria and read the British newspapers, but everyone else who works for them on the frontline and everyone who is subjected to their cack-handed, under-resourced, under-trained and frankly pointless rules are slowly going insane.

I was on WP for two years with INGEUS, finished in November, I found the first year really hard-going because I mistakenly believed they were being paid to help me find work. But once I'd realised what a shell game set up it was, I learned how to jump through their hoops and 'play the game' to keep my benefits. What a joke. What a true shame. I'm still unemployed and getting JSA - all the two years on WP did was put another level of bureaucracy and pointless accountability into my day, stopping me from looking for real jobs. Jumping through their hoops became a full time job in itself.

My heart goes out to anyone who's just starting with these muppets. My advice is just learn how to play the game - we can't win by being rational or moral with people like this.

 

Yep, agree with all of that and yes, I also play the game which is why I found voluntary work I WANTED TO DO as I knew I would me made to do utter pointless rubbish. They don't take liberties with me as I know more than them and they don't like it. They are not there to find us work, they are there as a government spying tool and to make our lives a misery. WHEN I find work it won't be because of INGEUS it will be because of the effort I have put in and they won't be getting any payments

[boomboomboom]

Email from head office - payment will be made on my next appointment so double next time - always worth asking!

 

good on trying to get your payment for bus fare back even if u had not got your cash back u should have told them u had not had a text and am sure they would have gave u your cash right there and then.

[essexmat]

In hindsight yes, I did think that, as I was going to the same place to sign on anyway I could have walked in for my INGEUS appointment and played dumb like I never got the text. Anyway, saved me sitting through 30 minutes of utter nonsense today

[boomboomboom]

In hindsight yes, I did think that, as I was going to the same place to sign on anyway I could have walked in for my INGEUS appointment and played dumb like I never got the text. Anyway, saved me sitting through 30 minutes of utter nonsense today

 

yeh end of the day they should be giving people there money back if there on the WP they think as if a few pound wont mean much but its not like that especially if u dont stay close to where the ingeus office is and the bus fair these days are just taking the pi** i still got my bus fair back even tho my adviser was off for just over a month.

[essexmat]

I didn't buy the adviser off sick excuse. Yes I sign on same day but at the end of the day it was within my cycle of INGEUS/Signing on so I wanted my fare. £4.70 aint a lot to some but for me it pays for shopping I need.

[boomboomboom]

I didn't buy the adviser off sick excuse. Yes I sign on same day but at the end of the day it was within my cycle of INGEUS/Signing on so I wanted my fare. £4.70 aint a lot to some but for me it pays for shopping I need.

 

yeh dont sound much but to other people it is.

 

i seen your wrote about "WHEN I find work it won't be because of INGEUS it will be because of the effort I have put in and they won't be getting any payments" i agree i dont see why ingeus get the credit its not like there the ones applying for the jobs plus when i get responds from people on emails or phone calls about me sent there cv/specs to them etc i just tell them they told me just to keep an eye on there jobs online they arent getting much chat from my job searching

[jasta11]

Email from head office - payment will be made on my next appointment so double next time - always worth asking!

 

The sun smiles on the righteous. Well done

 

..but take a copy of that email with you next time in case they 'forget' all about it!

[boomboomboom]

Aren't all Ingeus offices closed today and Monday? As I have people saying they are open both days?

[boomboomboom]

does anyone know if aldi calls u with a withheld number ? as i was told if i was to maybe get brought in for group interview that they would call me for more info but i was out enjoying the sunshine on a bank holiday and came back to get my phone and had 4missed calls withing the space of a 10 min period.

 

i guess i wont be getting put forward for the job now as i did not answer my phone? as its not my fault i was out enjoying the sunshine and a bank holiday and my phone was basically dead till i put it on charge

[Mr.P]

Withheld number on a bank holiday - The most likely candidate is some sca m merchant trying to sell solar panels, PPI claim, or some other bogus offer.

 

A reputable UK employer wouldn't be running a HR department on a public holiday nor would they withhold their number.

[boomboomboom]

Withheld number on a bank holiday - The most likely candidate is some sca m merchant trying to sell solar panels, PPI claim, or some other bogus offer.

 

A reputable UK employer wouldn't be running a HR department on a public holiday nor would they withhold their number.

 

Aww I guess there HR department be closed on bank holidays? Plus the first call from Aldi last week was a withhold number but I guess they would be closed on days like today?

[essexmat]

Bonus...

 

17th April - adviser off sick

01st May - adviser on leave (email today keeping for records)

15th May next appointment

 

Hardly any meetings with INGEUS for a month - yet again though an email stating she is on leave and no formal letter but of course I keep emails as proof