andrew hart/hartinvestments/paydayoverdraft.com/Wage Payments and Payday Loans Ltd - claimform - PDL i know nothing about - scam? **Claim Discontinued**

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so basically my name has been tarnished by Mr H

[unclebulgaria67]

so basically my name has been tarnished by Mr H

 

The Police probably won't release the email without a court order, so you have to make a formal complaint to them and as apart of the complaint they should look into who sent it.

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without sounding stupid(er) how do I go about that, is that a visit to my local or ring the person whom delt with the case as the Dc said eailer taht I was more than welcome to call and speak to the officer whom i spoke with

[unclebulgaria67]

without sounding stupid(er) how do I go about that, is that a visit to my local or ring the person whom delt with the case as the Dc said eailer taht I was more than welcome to call and speak to the officer whom i spoke with

 

Yes, speak to the officer concerned and make it clear to them that you will lodge a formal complaint with their inspector if this is not looked into further.

[WhatALife]

Would the email be included in a SAR to the police?

[unclebulgaria67]

Would the email be included in a SAR to the police?

 

You can't send the police an SAR. In harassment cases, it is only a judge that can order the release of the information to the accused. Hence making a complaint about the accusation and conduct of the officer concerned, forcing them to look into it further.

[WhatALife]

Hi unclebulgaria67 police can be sar, sar includes details held on pnc and details of past cases directly involving the subject can be requested. I got details for it at home as I've recently sent a sar request and just waiting a reply. I won't be home till tomorrow but can forward the details on if needed.

[unclebulgaria67]

Hi unclebulgaria67 police can be sar, sar includes details held on pnc and details of past cases directly involving the subject can be requested. I got details for it at home as I've recently sent a sar request and just waiting a reply. I won't be home till tomorrow but can forward the details on if needed.

 

Yes post up the details if you have proof that police have to release details of harassment allegations following an SAR.

 

I think you will find that you can only get hold of certain information held about you on databases. This is when it relates solely to you.

[sillygirl1]

You can't SAR the police but you can do a specific data access request persuant to the pre-court protocols. Are the police aware there is a court case about this?

[WhatALife]

I was only asking if details of the email would be released in a sar, I.e a copy of the alleged email.

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You can't SAR the police but you can do a specific data access request persuant to the pre-court protocols. Are the police aware there is a court case about this?

Mr Hart told them that the case was now closed.

[unclebulgaria67]

Mr Hart told them that the case was now closed.

 

You will obviously keep checking with the court, just in case !!!

 

Advice stands about making the complaint if you want the Police to look into who sent the email. They might refuse citing cost reasons, so you might need to speak to an inspector.

[theghost]

Details relating to an investigation of a crime must certainly be outside the scope of the DPA and SARs...... ?

[BRIGADIER2JCS]

My understanding is that as long as the data requested is solely relevant to the person requesting it, and does not involve a third parties details.

[defizr]

Mr Hart told them that the case was now closed.

 

Maybe Hart hopes that you'll believe this and not turn up at court on the day. Then he'll win by default.

[ScarletPimpernel]

It seems to me that the issue here is that the Met have simply taken Hart at his (deeply dubious) word, and rather than investigate - and confirm what Hart says about the court case, for example - have taken the easy option and issued a template letter. Ads needs to take this further, by speaking to the officer and making clear that has not sent any harassing emails; in fact, it is the other way round and Hart is trying to manipulate the police into harassing Ads on his behalf. Ads must make clear that he will make a formal complaint against police if this is not looked into properly. It would, for example, be very easy for the officer to phone the court and discover that the case has not been discontinued.

[meemok]

I have an observation about the latest developments on this thread, but dont wanna post it in the open...

 

Can I PM it to one of the more senior people who are involved here first of all to see what they think?

[cerberusalert]

You can either pm me or click the black triangle at the bottom of any post and send a message directly to the mods forum.

[ScarletPimpernel]

pm me if you like.

[mrtk1]

Amazing thread and story all of this is lol

If the court case has been stopped then its a case of job done on op's part really, they just need to clarify it officially from the court just to be on safe side.

If the police started chasing everyone who sends bad emails then they'd be knocking on virtually everyone's door quite frankly as most people have done things like that to one extent or another since email was invented. im not saying its not a bad thing to do just that the police have a bad enough time trying to even find the local burglar or mugger these days never mind chasing up everyone who says bad things over the internet! lol

[coledog]

Losing the plot on this - can someone fill me in please?

[mrtk1]

Losing the plot on this - can someone fill me in please?

 

Took me many re-reads of the thread to get the jist of the whole thing myself lol

[Tootles1971]

I can't believe all the latest twists and turns! Ads, you have more than enough evidence to report Mr H for harassment, so I would consider reporting this to the police also.

 

The whole 'phone call from the "police officer" seems very fishy......why would she know anything about paypal payments etc etc?? The ins and outs of the claims against you re the alleged debt are not a police matter at all.

 

You know I am definitely on your side on this one. Take care!

[mrtk1]

From what i can conclude wouldnt it better to see what Mr H does next if anything at all? sounds to me like that man is rattled and may now realize that messing with ads is no longer worth his while. If ads hears no more from him then great. I just hope that next person Mr H targets finds cag as well sooner than later.

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Losing the plot on this - can someone fill me in please?

Try loosing the will to live.....

From going so high as to seeing a light at the end of the tunnel to have it turned around and make myself not the victim but the culprit is beyond belief. Mr Hart if you are reading this, you succsessfuly broke an ill person, but guess what I am a great believer that KARMA is a bitch, liars, cheats and underhandedness (i know its not a word) screws us all in the end. NB This is not a threat of harrassment or libal -- MODS please edit post if you believe so.