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    • I understand confusion with this thread.  I tried to keep threads separate because there have been so many angles.    But a team member merged them all.  This is why it's hard to keep track. This forum exists to help little people fight injustice - however big or small.  Im here to try get a decent resolution. Not to give in to the ' big boys'. My "matter' became complicated 'matters' simply because a lender refused to sell a property. What can I say?  I'll try in a nutshell to give an overview: There's a long lease property. I originally bought it short lease with a s.146 on it from original freeholder.  I had no concerns. So lender should have been able to sell a well-maintained lovely long lease property.  The property was great. The issue is not the property.  Economy, sdlt increases, elections, brexit, covid, interest hikes etc didn't help.  The issue is simple - the lender wanted to keep it.    Before repo I offered to clear my loan.  I was a bit short and lender refused.  They said (recorded) they thought the property was worth much more and they were happy to keep accruing interest (in their benefit) until it reached a point where they felt they could repo and still easily quickly sell to get their £s back.  This was a mistake.  The market was (and is) tough.   2y later the lender ceo bid the same sum to buy the property for himself. He'd rejected higher offers in the intervening period whilst accruing interest. I had the property under offer to a fantastic niche buyer but lender rushed to repo and buyer got spooked and walked.  It had taken a long time to find such a lucrative buyer.  A sale which would have resulted in £s and another asset for me. Post repo lender had 1 offer immediately.  But dragged out the process for >1y - allegedly trying to get other offers. But disclosure shows there was only one valid buyer. Lender appointed receiver (after 4 months) - simply to try acquire the freehold.  He used his powers as receiver to use me, as leaseholder, to serve notice on freeholders.  Legally that failed. Meanwhile lender failed to secure property - and squatters got in (3 times).  And they failed to maintain it.  So freeholders served a dilapidations notice (external) - on me as leaseholder (cc-ed to lender).   (That's how it works legally) I don't own the freehold.  But I am a trustee and have to do right by the freeholders.  This is where matters got/ get complicated.  And probably lose most caggers.   Lawyers got involved for the freeholders to firstly void the receiver enfranchisement notice. Secondly, to serve the dilapidations notice.  The lack of maintenance was in breach of lease and had to be served to protect fh asset. The lender did no repairs. They said a buyer would undertake them. Which was probably correct. If they had sold. After 1y lender finally agreed to sell to the 1st offeror and contracts went with lawyers.  Within 1 month lender reneged.  Lender tried to suggest buyer walked. Evidence shows he/ his lawyers continued trying to exchange (cash) for 4 months.  Evidence shows lender and receiver strategy had been to renege and for ceo to take control.   I still think that's their plan. Lender then stupidly chose to pretty much bulldoze the property.  Other stuff was going on in the background. After repo I was in touch by phone and email and lender knew post got to me.   Despite this, after about 10 months (before and then during covid), they deliberately sent SDs and eventually a B petition to an incorrect address and an obscure small court.  They never served me properly.  (In hindsight I understand they hoped to get a backdoor B - so they could keep the property that way.)  Eventually the random court told them to email me by way of service.  At this point their ruse to make me B failed.  I got a lawyer (friend paid). The B petition was struck out. They’d failed to include the property as an asset. They were in breach of insolvency rules. Simultaneously the receiver again appointed lawyers to act on my behalf as leaseholder. This time to serve notice on the freeholders for a lease extension.  He had hoped to try and vary the strict lease. Evidence shows the already long length of lease wasn't an issue.  The lender obviously hoped to get round their lack of permission to do works (which they were already doing) by hoping to remove the strict clauses that prevent leaseholder doing alterations.   The extension created a new legal angle for me to deal with.  I had to act as trustee for freeholders against me as leaseholder/ the receiver.  Inconsistencies and incompetence by receiver lawyers dragged this out 3y.  It still isn't properly resolved.  Meanwhile - going back to the the works the lender undertook. The works were consciously in breach of lease.  The lender hadn't remedied the breaches listed in the dilapidations notice.  They destroyed the property.  The trustees compiled all evidence.  The freeholders lawyers then served a forfeiture notice. This notice started a different legal battle. I was acting for the freeholders against what the lender had done on my behalf as leaseholder.  This legal battle took 3y to resolve. The simple exit would have been for lender to sell. A simple agreement to remedy the breaches and recompense the freeholders in compensation - and there's have been clean title to sell.  That option was proposed to them.   This happened by way of mediation for all parties 2y ago.  A resolution option was put forward and in principle agreed.  But immediately after the lender lawyers failed to engage.  A hard lesson to learn - mediation cannot be referred to in court. It's considered w/o prejudice. The steps they took have made no difference to their ability to sell the property.  Almost 3y since they finished works they still haven't sold. ** ** I followed up some leads myself.  A qualified cash buyer offered me a substantial sum.  The lender and receiver both refused it.   I found another offer in disclosure.  6 months later someone had apparently offered a substantial sum via an agent.  The receiver again rejected it.  The problem of course was that the agent had inflated the market price to get the business. But no-one was or is ever going to offer their list price.  Yet the receiver wanted/wants to hold out for the list price.  Which means 1y later not only has it not sold - disclosure shows few viewings and zero interest.  It's transparently over-priced.  And tarnished. For those asking why I don't give up - I couldn't/ can't.  Firstly I have fiduciary duties as a trustee. Secondly, legal advice indicates I (as leaseholder) could succeed with a large compensation claim v the lender.  Also - I started a claim v my old lawyer and the firm immediately reimbursed some £s. That was encouraging.  And a sign to continue.  So I'm going for compensation.  I had finance in place (via friend) to do a deal and take the property back off the lender - and that lawyer messed up bad.   He should have done a deal.  Instead further years have been wasted.   Maybe I only get back my lost savings - but that will be a result.   If I can add some kind of complaint/ claim v the receiver's conscious impropriety I will do so.   I have been left with nothing - so fighting for something is worth it. The lender wants to talk re a form of settlement.  Similar to my proposal 2y ago.  I have a pretty clear idea of what that means to me.  This is exactly why I do not give up.  And why I continue to ask for snippets of advice/ pointers on cag.  
    • It was all my own work based on my previous emails to P2G which Bank has seen.
    • I was referring to #415 where you wrote "I was forced to try to sell - and couldn't." . And nearer the start in #79 .. "I couldn't sell.  I had an incredibly valuable asset. Huge equity.  But the interest accrued / the property market suffered and I couldn't find a buyer even at a level just to clear the debt." In #194 you said you'd tried to sell for four years.  The reason for these points is that a lot of the claims against for example your surveyor, solicitor, broker, the lender and now the receiver are mainly founded in a belief that they should have been able to do something but did not. Things that might seem self evident to you but not necessarily to others. Pressing these claims may well need a bit more hard evidence, rather than an appeal to common sense. Can you show evidence of similar properties, with similar freehold issues, selling readily? And solid reasons why the lender should have been able to sell when you couldn't.
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In early 2009, i had some financial difficulties and due to this missed some payments on my next account, throughout the next few weeks i was bombarded with threatening letters and phone calls from them and then Geoffrey Parker Bourne, so decided to CCA them.

I heard nothing back from them until...

 

Jan 2010 when i receive a letter stating the account is being prepared for sale to an external DCA.

 

this is where it gets naughty...

  • Feb 2010 i receive a letter from Next stating the Debt has been sold to Capquest (no default notice has been received). The same day Daughter receives a letter from Capquest (addressed to me, but at her address).
  • March my Daughter received a letter from HL Legal. Addressed to me, but at my daughters house - i have no connection whatsoever with that address and never have (apart from my Daughter living there).
  • 10 days later CQ send an LBA - to my Daughters.
  • April CQ send threatogram - to my Daughters.
  • May she receives two more threatograms from Capquest.

Now my Daughter has been away for a while so i did not know of these other threatograms until her return, she gave me the other letters (19th June), on 26th June she calls to say CQ have sent a Statutory demand (dated the 23rd June, received 26th June 1st class mail).

 

Now to me it seems Capquest are trying to get the SD by default. They are totally out of order writing to other addresses especially as i have never had any connection to that address..

 

Any suggestions or help would be very welcome...

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Where did they get your daughters address from ? Has your daughter ever ordered or had delivered to her address items from the catalogue ?

 

You have to follow the process for getting the Statutory Demand set aside. See the easy to follow guide from the Insolvencyhelpline. Obviously one of the main points is that the SD was not served correctly.

Legal Issues Explained - Statutory Demand

 

These are the forms you need to complete and take to the court within 21 days of the SD being served.

 

http://www.insolvency.gov.uk/pdfs/forms/6-4.doc

 

http://www.insolvency.gov.uk/pdfs/forms/6-5.doc

 

I am not expert in this. There are a few people on this site that know how to complete these form and there are many threads which you can pick up useful info from. Some are in the legal issues folder.

We could do with some help from you.

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Thanks for the quick reply...

 

My daughter has never had any credit. She has not long moved to her new address, she's only 20 yrs old.

Also on the back of this i have never received a Default Notice either..

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please confirm 1stbclass post

 

is a court listed on the stat demand

 

is a person listed on the demand for the creditor who you can contact

 

well well

 

this is stat demand number 10 ive delt with this month from crappy quest

 

ill post up a set asside template ive allready done

 

this is for another dca called godebt but will give you an idea of whats involved

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I will leave you in the safe hands of postggj, who has become a bit of a guru with these SD's. There seems to have been a flood of these in recent months, most of which appear to have been been issued more in hope they will get by default !

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Thankyou Postggi.

 

The SD was poster 1st class standard post (prepaid envelope, no post mark). Sd dated 23rd June, Recieved 26th June.

 

The Court in the SD is about 25 miles from me, so going to check if local Court deals with this.

 

Your friend - Barry Davies is named on the SD.

 

Many Thanks for your quick reply and help.

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I will leave you in the safe hands of postggj, who has become a bit of a guru with these SD's. There seems to have been a flood of these in recent months, most of which appear to have been been issued more in hope they will get by default !

 

 

OK, thankyou for your quick reply and links..

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ok

 

same routine

 

on monday

tuesday

wednesday

 

phone crappyquest (the number on the stat demand) and ask to speak to barry davies

 

DO NOT GIVE THE PHONE MUPPETT ANY PERSONAL DETAILS

(NAME ADDRESS ETC) JUST ASK TO BE PUT THROUGH TO SPEAK TO HIM REF AN SD

 

they will continue to ask for your details

 

(HANG UP)

 

THEN CALL THE FOLLOWING DAY

 

we have to do this once a day for three days

 

on monday, phone the court listed on the demand and ask if they handle bankrupcy petitions

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OK, i have checked with the courts and the Court named on the SD is correct.

I also phoned Capquest (number witheld) and asked to speak to Barry Davies..... unfortunately he was out of the office. :p Will try again tomorrow. Should i be sending a CCA, or filling out set aside forms ?

 

Many Thanks.

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Great....so the debt has been passed around from pillar to post despite GPB not supplying you with a copy of your agreement...!! It should never have got this far, but frequently it does. What you MUST do first is report them to the OFT. As has been said above, I would get this set aside. Please do have a look here and you will find a significant number of threads most of them are Capquest and get this set aside - DCA Legal Successes - The Consumer Forums - You might also find this thread of interest too - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/legal-issues/200443-tactics-dealing-next-directory.html - slightly different as this deals with County Court Judgments as opposed to Insolvency / Bankruptcy route, but still maybe of interest....

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Thanks for the Link 42man.

Its amazing how many of these SD's from Capquest are on the forums at the moment.... they must be feeling the recession :D

 

Called this morning and spoke to a very pushy woman who said Barry Davies was in a meeting and she was authorised to deal with my Stat demand - although i didnt even mention my name, stat demand or give a reference, i just asked to speak to Barry Davies...

 

Well im keeping a log of times, dates and duration of calls anyway.

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well then sl8r

 

phone for the last time tomorow and ill do the paper work for you

 

this barry davies realy is a phantom

 

strange you can never talk to him:-D

 

one of these days i will call him as a witness,

 

wonder if he will turn up??

 

in spirit or in person

 

answers on a postcard:D

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Hi, thanks very much for your help postggj..

 

Well i called again this morning, and got put through to their Legal Services, unfortunately Barry Davies was not available - but was asked to call back at 10.30 to talk to him :D.

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Hi Postggj, wondered if you had managed to have a look at the set aside forms yet :)

 

Been looking around at the other Capquest SD threads, seems they have been very busy sending them out like junk mail lately....:-(

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I have completed 6.4 or the set aside forms, but am not sure what to put in the affidavit in 6.5.

Can anyone offer any input on this as i really need to get this into the Court ASAP now...

 

Thanks.

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