Council Tax not Lawful?

[Conniff]

I thought you were here to help your fellow man, seems your just here to preach unproven crap.

 

I accept I am wrong in what I say and a total fool in what i am doing

 

That is the only true thing you have said since you joined 19 posts ago.

[gynet]

I am just trying to say to you all get your own proof rather than try to get a free ride how will you learn by not opening the book yourself

 

There is so much you could find out if you stop hiding behind the show me argument and start with the i want to prove to my self standing on my own two feet

 

i can see I am wasting my time to cant show a new path to someone that is set in there ways and unwilling to take a chance in what they believe may not be quiet right

 

i will admit when i am wrong but i will always try to get the facts first hand

 

You can wipe out credit cards bank loans with one letter

its just knowing how to word it

 

till you get off the give me it ride and start asking questions to do your own thing

 

you will never move forward

 

thanks for you time

 

I cant help those that don't want to help themselves

[Bookworm]

In other words, no, you won't come and tell us when it fails, no you have no hard evidence that any of it works, once up against the wall and asked to provide some, hell, ANY evidence, you do what every so-called FOTL ever does: retreat behind the mantra.

 

and there I was, hoping we were going to get somewhere with this one.

[gynet]

ok im running away from the pressure you put me under

I see the door just to scared to open it unless you are led

 

your choice

 

Its easy to knock down something you dont believe

It is far to muck trouble to find out for your self

 

If i give you what you want and you get questioned or pulled doing something if you dont know how it work how can you defend your self

 

this is why you have to learn youeself

so you know what to do if it does not go to paln

 

but your right im wrong

 

better just leave it there im a fool so you can be happy you saw through it and carry on your way

[Conniff]

I am just trying to say to you all get your own proof rather than try to get a free ride how will you learn by not opening the book yourself

 

There is so much you could find out if you stop hiding behind the show me argument and start with the i want to prove to my self standing on my own two feet

 

i can see I am wasting my time to cant show a new path to someone that is set in there ways and unwilling to take a chance in what they believe may not be quiet right

 

i will admit when i am wrong but i will always try to get the facts first hand

 

You can wipe out credit cards bank loans with one letter

its just knowing how to word it

 

till you get off the give me it ride and start asking questions to do your own thing

 

you will never move forward

 

thanks for you time

 

I cant help those that don't want to help themselves

 

 

Ah, now we're getting there, buy the book. So this is just spam, well you didn't succeed in conning any to buy your lies on paper.

[gynet]

I sell nothing i do what i do cause it is right not for profit it is not all about money lean to live with the thought not everything has to have a price

[gynet]

I dont need the BS was trying to help but see i am wasting my time

[Conniff]

No-one wants you to do anything for them, just the tiniest snippet of proof would have done.

 

Even shops display their products so you can at least see them. Your asking people to buy a book without showing them in the slightest that it will prove to be of value.

 

Sorry, it don't work like that.

 

The way you have portrayed yourself makes you no different than a Nigerian [EDIT].

[Conniff]

I sell nothing i do what i do cause it is right not for profit it is not all about money lean to live with the thought not everything has to have a price

 

Then why are you trying to cancel parking tickets and get out of paying council tax and other taxes??

 

Stoopid thing to ask, you haven't answered a single question because there are no answers.

[Conniff]

i can see I am wasting my time to cant show a new path to someone that is set in there ways and unwilling to take a chance in what they believe may not be quiet right

 

Unwilling to take a chance - unwilling to take a chance

 

Where did that come from, you said it worked so how can it be taking a chance.

[Conniff]

I dont need the BS was trying to help but see i am wasting my time

 

The only BS my friend is coming from your keyboard.

[gynet]

hear you say trying to get out of paying to get out of something says it is something we must do

 

Show me the law that says we have to pay any form of tax and i will bow to you

 

untill then dont knock me for not paying something i dont have to

 

you pay if you want

 

that is your choice

 

but at least go find the law that says you must.

[Conniff]

I bet you'll happy to draw benefits and pension when your old enough though.

[nunnyrose]

I'm really enjoying this thread I just wish we were all sitting around the table talking so we couldn't mis-understand the way things are being said.

I don't think you're wasting your time here gynet, I'm really interested to see how this all pans out and maybe I'm a sucker for a good conspiracy theory but I do agree with Bookworm, the proof is in the pudding. I also see what you're saying gynet, that it's up to the individual to challenge the system, if they feel they must.

Perhaps David Ike behaved as he did to try and get people to listen which, in my mind is no worse than politicians telling us "this is the way it is".We just choose to go along with legislation because, surely those that we put in power wouldn't lie -BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT THEY DO!

I don't have the brain power to do all the research and learning being suggested by gynet, but I do know it is wrong that people are dying from starvation whilst taxpayers money is being used to build the councils new HQ.

I don't want to play anymore - the law is an ass because we allow it to be. (sorry if I said that in an earlier post )

[gynet]

just to be straight there I own 2 company's that are doing very well and having spent 25 yrs in it have my own future sorted out rather than have to rely on handout

 

I can stand tall

[gynet]

they are not spending tax payers money all taxes go straight tto the bankers

 

what they spend is revenue collected from trumped up fines

 

we have no law and order as every thin is a fine so criminals will take the risk

 

just look around you all fines

 

no real punishment

[nunnyrose]

? I dont understand what you're saying ?

why and how does it go to the bankers?

and are you saying the rules are made to be broken so as to get the fines/revenue?

[gynet]

with out spendin to long looking here is a bit of proof of what i have said

 

 

WebCHeck - Select and Access Company Information

[gynet]

no as i was saying it is not a law thing it is much bigger

 

banks run our country no the private company known as THE UNITED KINGDOM LTD

 

or what you class a government

[Bookworm]

As i have given up my Ni

 

just to be straight there I own 2 company's

And how is that working out for your employees? Are they aware that you're not paying your side of the NI contributions?

[Bookworm]

On a different note, I had a thought and searched Facebook, and lo and behold:

 

FREEMAN OF THE LAND | Facebook

 

Hmmm... I see the admin has left the building. I wonder if he got disillusionned, or maybe "they" made him disappear for fear of spreading "the Truth"?

[samsmoot]

with out spendin to long looking here is a bit of proof of what i have said

 

 

WebCHeck - Select and Access Company Information

 

Had a look and found you can get a heap of info on THE UNITED KINGDOM LTD for just a quid - such as:

 

INCORPORATION DOCUMENTS

CERTIFICATE OF INCORPORATION

STATEMENT OF DIRECTORS & REGISTERED OFFICE

DECLARATION OF COMPLIANCE

MEMORANDUM OF ASSOCIATION

ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION

 

 

WebCHeck - Select and Access Company Information

 

Has anyone actually got a copy of any of the docs mentioned?

 

The results also mention it being a dormant company, so that confuses me a bit.

[Bookworm]

Have you seen where they're based?

 

Elstree... and they've only been going since May 1999, as well as being dormant.

 

Maybe, just maybe, that is just a company that called itself United Kingdom Ltd, and NOT THE UK?

 

Pssst, btw, one thing our friends the FOTL have forgotten is that their precious conspiracy theories don't cross the Atlantic well: what happens to the Queen and family and their status in the matter? I haven't seen THAT mentioned anywhere. Should be interesting to see how that gets handled under the FOTL theory.

[mills1]

I dont mind getting a rough ride over what I say as I know it to be true as I have researched everything i have done, never take anyone's word everyone is different

 

The one that mock the loudest are usually the ones that cant be bothered or follow blindly in the paths of others.

 

I am not going to preach to you I have taken my own path I am my own man.

WHOS MAN ARE YOU

 

Remember the world was once flat

 

And Banks lent you other peoples money

And credit card company's paid for goods that you purchase

And we are not traded on the stock exchange like any other owned asset.

 

I don't tell anyone I am right but i will say here is a brick now go and find the rest to build your HOUSE.

 

Now lets think about why it has never got public in the papers.

 

No Laws say we have to pay tax

you only need a driving licence if you carry goods or passengers

banks lend you your own money and all loans can be wiped out ( morgage payments differ)

Credit card company,s never part with any cash so have no right to bill you

Most Laws you think of are only rules and you can say NO.

 

It would take someone with bigg balls to post any of this.

as every thing we see and hear is what they want us to see and hear but not every thing is black and white

 

Ok Gynet, everyone can be "their own man " or, sorry ladies, " woman "

I asked what you would do when you need hospital treatment or heaven forbid a fire engine ?

Surely, if you " cop out " from the " system " you're on your own, so to say?

I would not dream of walking up to someone and after taking half of their loaf of bread they had just paid for say " Sorry pal, I do not believe in paying for a loaf, you do know that shop are only there for a profit?"

 

So you only need a driving licence if you carry goods or people?

Can you provide a link that substantiates?

[mills1]

And how is that working out for your employees? Are they aware that you're not paying your side of the NI contributions?

 

 

Cynet's very argument is that they do not have to.

When Cynet's Employees request a pension forecast they may be in for a shock, unless Cynet is paying cash in hand?