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OK, understood. The second decision to make, given PE are wobbling, would be whether to reply to them (well after 8 May to show you're not scared of them), ridicule their offer which is no offer at all, and ask them to make a serious attempt to settle. You never know, they might offer a few quid as an out-of.court settlement and it might save your mum having to do court. Just an idea. Something to consider. -
If we are sure we have a valid case, she's ready to go to court. Her sister is going with to help with her hearing difficulties, so we might as well see it through!! -
Yeah of course, it hasnt changed?? Case Stayed on 05/02/2024 at 19:39:44 Case Stay Lifted on 16/02/2024 Case Stayed on 22/02/2024 at 19:39:13
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Following your update on your other thread, and I know it's a pain, but can you please put up the current MCOL status? There is a good reason.
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I agree with lolerz. They are simply trying to scare you. Anyway, it's your case, you get to decide how to proceed with it. If you want to drop it, you can drop it when you want. Their silly deadline of 8 May is neither here nor there. If you did drop the case they would be stuck with their own costs. Tough. That's how it works at small claims. However, indirectly there is a point to consider. We all know how problematic this has been for your mum to handle. So far it's only cost you £35. Is she prepared to go to court and argue her case, or would it be better to drop the matter and take the hit on the £35?
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