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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

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This is an update of sorts. It was in one of my other previous threads. The bailiff has since knocked again and levied on a car that didn't belong to me. The thing is though is that i didn't owe a penny as you will see if you read

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/benefits-tax-credits-minimum/209282-housing-benefit-dispute-advice.html

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It all adds up in your favour when ultimately it gotes to the LGO, you might want generous enough to buy them a bigger shovel :lol::lol::lol::lol:

The advice I give in relation to benefits should be viewed as general advice and not specific to your individual claim circumstances. I cannot give specific advice on your claim as I cannot access the claim.

 

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Can one of the site team please put this thread back in the benefits and tax credits section please as this is where it was first posted and where it should be. Thanking you in advance Andy;)

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Hi Installspark. They just don't learn and don't think they ever will. I've heard the LGO do as much as they can to not find a council guilty of Maladministration. In this case though i don't see any other outcome because i have all the evidence. Hope they keep digging themselves a bigger hole:D

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UPDATE

 

Just had a letter back off the Chief Executive which states that the council have acted correctly with all my points raised.

 

The funny thing though is that in the letter they state the words 'incorrect action, the errors we made, the failings we have made etc

etc'. I could go on. How on earth does this council think they have acted correctly when they state things like the phrases above.

 

Needless to say i am now in contact with the LGO about taking this complaint further.

 

If anyone has any comments or questions please let me know

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You know one can easily be very cynical with Local Councils. On one hand they can be your friend and on another your worst enemy.

Whilst off topic I wanted to convey a situation I witnessed happen. In fact it was one of my many visits before I finally got housing befefit agreed. After you read this I can say I symphasize with many who have problems.

So I was stading there waiting for the lady to photocopy even more stuff for my application. A couple of service points stood a visibly scared and shaken youg lady with her friend. Her friend explained that the girl's mother had literally thrown her out. The thrown out shaken girl was just turned 17. The other girl went on to explain that her friend was now homesless wearing only the clothes she stood in. The mother had told her never to come back as she'd not be getting in. This went on for around 5 minutes and the unhappy girl (it seemed genuinely) crying her eyes out. She by the way did not want any benefits but somewhere to stay it seemed.

The woman behind the service point calmly said, 'Okay what you'll need to do is to get a letter from your mother saying you could no longer live in the house. Once you've done that we can have a look at your claim to see where we go from there'. I can assure you I stood there both shocked and saddened by what I'd just witnessed. The girl's friend asked what she should do now and it was simply repeated to her. When asked about 'now' the woman replied with, 'well nothing'.

In my own case I felt at least I had a roof over my head. So to me a pure example of a local authority works. Most people going to the housing section are 'vunerable and inariably in a terrible state. This is how they are treated - quite shocking and shameful I thought.

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Thanks Boo. That's the route i'm going down now so obviously i will keep you updated on the next chapter.

 

Informedsearcher i think the council on the whole are my worst enemy. They never seem to get anything right and always make out that everyone is a benefit cheat.

 

Feel sorry for that poor girl you mentioned though. Again it is just a case of them not listening and not wanting to help

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Here is a quick update as to the outcome of my complaint to the ombudsman.

 

1) The ombudsman has awarded me with £800 compensation for the hardship, bailiff visits and time and trouble in pursuing my complaint.

 

2) That the council changes the way it reviews each case of self employed income

 

3) The council offer me a full written apology for all the shortfalls in their assessment of the case

 

4) The council should send income/expenditure forms with their request for accounts at the same time.

 

There where a few other things that the ombudsman had put but to be honest the relevant ones are above.

 

The council have agreed to all of the proposals set out by the ombudsman, so it just goes to show that it is worth fighting if you believe you have been hard done by.

 

Think this is a RESULT!!!!

 

I would just like to thank everyone for their help and kindness in getting me through this. When money comes through i will be giving some to cag to keep this site going!!!!!!!

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CONGRATULATIONS!!!

 

Personally I dislike Councils and the DWP. Too much play by the rules with ZERO discretion. That's why councils and now the DWP have such a poor reputation with the general public ..... unless of course you are an asylum seeker.

 

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Very well done for seeing this through :D

Councils think they are above us mere mortals but when it comes down to it, when they are in the wrong and it can be proved, it hurts them.

Good on the ombudsman too.

 

I hope the council change their practices too.

 

 

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Thanks guys.

 

The council have also asked for a personal meeting with me to discuss the whole affair face to face.

 

Don't get me wrong here but i have spent countless hours on the internet, writing letters to the council and to the ombudsman and researching my rights to have got me this far.

 

To be honest there where times after a long days work that i just couldn't be bothered to do any more and felt like giving in, but my conscience got the better of me.

 

Again guys thanks very much for all your help and support and hope i can return the favour one day!!!!!!!!!

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