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    • Which Court have you received the claim from ? Civil National Business CEntre Name of the Claimant ? Lowell Portfolio i Ltd How many defendant's  joint or self ? Self   Date of issue –  15 Feb 2024 Particulars of Claim What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim?  The claim is for the sum of £922 due by the Defendant under and agreement regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 for a Capital One account with an account reference of [number with 16 digits] The Defendant failed to maintain contractual payments required by the agreement and a Default Notice was served under s.87(1) of the Consumer Credit ACt 1974 which has not been complied with. The debt was legally assigned to the claimant on 16-06-23, notice of which has been given to the defendant. The claim includes statutory interest under S.69 of the County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of the issue of these proceedings in the sum of £49.15 The Claimant claims the sum of £972 What is the total value of the claim? £1112 Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? I dont know the details of the PAPDC to know if it was pursuant to paragraph 3, but I did receive a Letter of Claim with a questionaire/form to fill. Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? no Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Assigned/purchaser Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? I was aware, I'm not certain I received a 'Notice of Assignment' from Capital One but may have been informed the account had been sold without such a title on the letter? Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Yes Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Not since the debt purchase, and not from Capital One. Why did you cease payments? I can't remember - it was the tail end of the pandemic and I may not have had enough income to keep up payments - I am self-employed and work in the event industry - at that time. I also had a bank account that didn't allow direct debits and may have just forgotten payments and became annoyed at fines for late payments. What was the date of your last payment? Appears to be 20/4/2022 Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No Here is my Defence: Defence - 1. The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are vague and generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. I have in the past had an agreement with Capital One but do not recognise this specific account number or recollect any outstanding debt and have therefore requested clarification by way of a CPR 31.14 and section 78 request.. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. I am unaware of having been served with a Default Notice pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. I am unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment pursuant to the Law and Property Act 1925 Section 136(1) 5. The Defendant has sent a request by way of a section 78 pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974, for a copy of the agreement, the Claimant has yet to comply and remains in default of said request. 6. A further request has been made via CPR 31.14 to the Claimants solicitor, requesting disclosure of documents on which the Claimant is basing their claim. The Claimant has not complied and to date nothing has been received. 7. It is therefore not accepted with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant and the Claimant is put to strict proof to: a) show how the Defendant has entered into an agreement and; b) show how the Claimant has reached the amount claimed for and; c) show the nature of the breach and evidence by way of a Default Notice pursuant to sec 88 CCA1974 d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim 8. As per Civil Procedure 16.5 it is expected that the claimants prove the allegation that the money is owed 9. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of section 136 of the Law of Property Act and section 82A of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 10. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief. .................. Please note that I had to write a defence quite quickly as I hit the deadline. At the time of writing the defence, I hadn't been able to find correspondence from Capital One, but had since found default letter etc. I submitted CCA request and CPR 31.14. However, I didn't get any proof of postage or use registered post for the CPR (an oversight) but did with the CCA request. I received a pack which included a letter from Overdales, going over the defence I'd filed, as well as letters of Lowells and reprints of letters from Capital One. But I have no idea if this pack is in response to the CCA request or the CPR ! I would have expected two separate responses ... although I do know they are both the same company. Looking over the pack today, and looking through old emails .. I find some discrepancies in the Capital One default letters (notice of default and Claim of default). They are both dated *before* an email I have stating that a default can be avoided. The one single page of agreement sent (so not the full agreement) has a 16 digit number at the top in small print, next to 'Capital One' which corresponds to a number called 'PURN' printed at the top of each of the 10 pages of ins and outs of the account (they're not official statements, but a list of monthly goings) yet no mention anywhere on either of the account number. I cant really scan them at the moment - I can later tomorrow, but that will be after the mediation call I'm sure. I guess I may be on my own for this mediation ... I am not certain the CCA request has been satisfied .. or if the CPR has been . And then I appear to have evidence that the Default notices provided are fabricated ? Yet, I do have (elsewhere ... not at home) Default letters from Capital One I can check ..
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Current situation regards Howard cohen/Cl finance in which there was a hearing which happened and to which I attended on behalf of OH. The hearing was adjourned until end of July as OH did not attend. I got the impressions she did'nt have to.

 

Previously and before the hearing I had followed the court directions to the letter and to the time scales. The claimant failed to do so and a further request for documents that they would be relying on has been ignored. My thread on this can be found on the forum for easy reference.

 

I would appreciate any further advice on what should be my next move.

As advised I think applying for a strike seems to be the way to go but I do have concerns. The fact that the OH did not attend (for what ever reason) that may be twisted around. No CCJ was ordered so I am assuming that things are in exactly the same situation before the hearing.

 

I have had great support along the way but now I have seeking to conclude this by a possible strike out and I was wondering what are the chances of success. Many thanks..

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Current situation regards Howard cohen/Cl finance in which there was a hearing which happened and to which I attended on behalf of OH. The hearing was adjourned until end of July as OH did not attend. I got the impressions she did'nt have to.

 

Previously and before the hearing I had followed the court directions to the letter and to the time scales. The claimant failed to do so and a further request for documents that they would be relying on has been ignored. My thread on this can be found on the forum for easy reference.

 

I would appreciate any further advice on what should be my next move.

As advised I think applying for a strike seems to be the way to go but I do have concerns. The fact that the OH did not attend (for what ever reason) that may be twisted around. No CCJ was ordered so I am assuming that things are in exactly the same situation before the hearing.

 

I have had great support along the way but now I have seeking to conclude this by a possible strike out and I was wondering what are the chances of success. Many thanks..

 

 

Civil Procedure Rules

 

 

 

Non-attendance of parties at a final hearing

 

27.9

 

(1) If a party who does not attend a final hearing –

(a) has given written notice to the court and the other party at least 7 days before the hearing date that he will not attend;

 

(b) has served on the other party at least 7 days before the hearing date any other documents which he has filed with the court; and

 

© has, in his written notice, requested the court to decide the claim in his absence and has confirmed his compliance with paragraphs (a) and (b) above,

 

the court will take into account that party’s statement of case and any other documents he has filed and served when it decides the claim.

 

(2) If a claimant does not –

(a) attend the hearing; and

 

(b) give the notice referred to in paragraph (1),

 

the court may strike out(GL) the claim.

 

(3) If –

(a) a defendant does not –

(i) attend the hearing; or

 

(ii) give the notice referred to in paragraph (1); and

 

 

(b) the claimant either –

(i) does attend the hearing; or

 

(ii) gives the notice referred to in paragraph (1),

 

 

the court may decide the claim on the basis of the evidence of the claimant alone.

 

(4) If neither party attends or gives the notice referred to in paragraph (1), the court may strike out(GL) the claim and any defence and counterclaim.

 

 

Unless someone else advises differently I would suggest that your OH should attend Court

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Civil Procedure Rules

 

 

 

Non-attendance of parties at a final hearing

 

27.9

 

(1) If a party who does not attend a final hearing –

(a) has given written notice to the court and the other party at least 7 days before the hearing date that he will not attend;

 

(b) has served on the other party at least 7 days before the hearing date any other documents which he has filed with the court; and

 

© has, in his written notice, requested the court to decide the claim in his absence and has confirmed his compliance with paragraphs (a) and (b) above,

 

the court will take into account that party’s statement of case and any other documents he has filed and served when it decides the claim.

 

(2) If a claimant does not –

(a) attend the hearing; and

 

(b) give the notice referred to in paragraph (1),

 

the court may strike out(GL) the claim.

 

(3) If –

(a) a defendant does not –

(i) attend the hearing; or

 

(ii) give the notice referred to in paragraph (1); and

 

 

(b) the claimant either –

(i) does attend the hearing; or

 

(ii) gives the notice referred to in paragraph (1),

 

 

the court may decide the claim on the basis of the evidence of the claimant alone.

 

(4) If neither party attends or gives the notice referred to in paragraph (1), the court may strike out(GL) the claim and any defence and counterclaim.

 

 

Unless someone else advises differently I would suggest that your OH should attend Court

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I gave notice of OH not attending and I take heed of the advice that she should attend but this may be pending medical advice..

 

Just wondering if I should request a subject access request given that this maybe the best way to get them to send all data they have..

 

Another idea could be to request an order for disclosure as they have failed fully to provide under the civil procedure rules..

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Further to my post. If I apply for SAR, then ten pounds is payable, however if applying using civil procedure rules then can the same results be had ? Could some one remind me the regs to be used. Sure I did this for CPR before and if so I could request this as an reminder and request response within seven days..

 

Another issue is regarding agreement number. On the claim form it mentions one number but on the agreement itself it mentions a different number, confused or what ??

 

If I use the civil procedure rules which I favour now unless some one has other ideas, I could highlight this issue with the agreement..

 

One more issue for now is that on the claimants witness statement they refer to AR1 to AR5. What is meant by this ? Five pages of A4 that does'nt really say anythink. Are they just confirming on those pages the fact that they have isuued a a witness statement ?? any one ??

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Hi, update to my situation with HC.

 

We received a court claim and sent a defence that they did not even own the debt and they had also sent the claim to an old address.

 

We received an AQ wich was returned.

 

We have now received a court order saying there is a 20 min hearing in 10 days time to discuss if the debt has been asigned properly and if so what our defence is.

 

We have never received an agreement for this nor a default notice.

 

Any ideas what to do, after my recent experienceI would rather not go to court as who knows what will happen, We may even get the same judge :eek:

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Is anyone able to help on this ?

 

I dont know if HC have even responded to the court, or would it not have got this far if they had not ?

 

This is my wifes account and she really would not be up to attending, could I attend on her behalf ? I can't believe HC will attend for a £300 claim.

 

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Is anyone able to help on this ?

 

I dont know if HC have even responded to the court, or would it not have got this far if they had not ?

 

This is my wifes account and she really would not be up to attending, could I attend on her behalf ? I can't believe HC will attend for a £300 claim.

 

Thanks

 

 

Contact the Court tomorrow morning and see what the state of play is regarding HC, then you can plan your method of attack.

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the defendant must appear (although she could stay silent and you could represent her with the permission of the court )

 

if she cannot attend through illness then she should seek an adjourement with a doctors letter.

 

 

Hi DD,

 

No she's not ill, just she would not have a clue what to do, and would either tie herself in knots or worse still, tell the judge what she thought of him. :eek:

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Ok, contacted the court this morning and they have heard nothing from CL finance / HC since they returned the AQ.

 

So just to confirm, the original date of issue of claim was 28th July 2009, this was sent to our old address. In December 2009 we received a letter from buchanan clark wells to say that aktiv kapital had now bought the debt.

 

What does this mean to the court claim as although CL finance owned the debt at the time of issue, they then sold it to AK ?

 

Cosalt

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Is anyone able to help on this ?

 

I dont know if HC have even responded to the court, or would it not have got this far if they had not ?

 

This is my wifes account and she really would not be up to attending, could I attend on her behalf ? I can't believe HC will attend for a £300 claim.

 

Thanks

 

i think that what you are saying is that she is terrified of the thought )nothing wrong with that) - which means she would be as much use defending herself as a chocolate fireguard

 

you can ask the court to represent her but she must attend (and will sit quietly throughout whilst you make the case for her)

 

if you have been dealing with most of the stuff on her behalf and writing the letters for her - then just put a few basics in her witness statement and put the rest in your own

 

a person who submits evidence to a court but fails to attend will have a major problem since the other side have no means of testing that evidence and so the evidence will be seriously weakened

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Ok, contacted the court this morning and they have heard nothing from CL finance / HC since they returned the AQ.

 

So just to confirm, the original date of issue of claim was 28th July 2009, this was sent to our old address. In December 2009 we received a letter from buchanan clark wells to say that aktiv kapital had now bought the debt.

 

What does this mean to the court claim as although CL finance owned the debt at the time of issue, they then sold it to AK ?

 

Cosalt

 

I take it then that you have had no paperwork whatsoever regarding this claim, other than the stuff from Court?

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DD yes you are right about my wife, the other problem is that we have a four month old baby and I am not quite sure who is going to look after her.

 

The only defence we have ever submitted is what we put onto the original claim form stating that we had only just received the claim because the claimant had sent to the wrong address. we also stated that they had sold the debt on and so had no right to claim.

 

we have received no paperwork from the claimant in relation to the court case.

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Hi everyone,

 

in court tuesday for a hearing, HC have continued with court action despite selling the debt on to another dca.

 

here is my thread-

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/legal-issues/244710-buchanan-clark-wells-ccj-4.html#post2984229

 

can anyone confirm that they cannot continue with court action on a debt they have sold on.

 

thanks

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Personally l dont think they can as they dont own the debt. The word fraud comes to mind.

 

As evidence remember to take the proof you have they dont own the debt and ask the judge to throw this matter out of court as they are trying to gain money they are not entitled to.

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