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    • in order for us to help you we require the following information:- Which Court have you received the claim from ? Canterbury If possible please scan redact and upload a full page copy of page 1 of the claim form. ( Name of the Claimant ? Moneybarn No 1   How many defendant's  joint or self ? One Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to. 29/05/24 Acknowledged by 14/06/24  Defence by 29/06/24  Particulars of Claim PARTICULARS OF CLAIM   1.  By a Conditional Sale Agreement in writing made on 25th August 2022. Between the Claimant and Defendant, the Claimant let to the Defendant on Conditional Sale. 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Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate   4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:-   a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement number 756050. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     Thw total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by Firrst class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges ]= 5.  A the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or  alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage.   Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs.   Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024   What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg
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First of all Apologies as I have posted this in the DVLA thread, if an Admin could rectify it for me I would be grateful. Anyway:

 

Just had my car MOT'd after returning home from holiday and realising that it expires today!

 

Basically, it cost me £69.19. I told the guy that the sidelamp bulb at the front was faulty and there was one bulb gone at the rear.

 

I have the following breakdown:

 

TIME RATE VAT NET

MOT TEST 0.0 £39.95

REPLACE N/S/F SIDELIGHT BULB

REPLACE FADED FLASHER BULBS

REPLACE SIDE REPEATER BULBS 0.40 50.00 17.5 £20.00

LABOUR SUB TOTAL £59.95

 

then i have 4 bulbs which cost £4.89

 

The total cost of the MOT was therefore £64.84 + £4.35 VAT = £69.19

 

I cant help but thinking

1) why replace 4 bulbs when I only needed 2

2) Does it really take £20 to replace bulbs?

3) They also said I had a nail in my rear tyre..... My car has a computer that tells you if and when you have a puncture, or the pressure is low etc, and it never has before, so if it does when i go out in a minute theyve done that havent they?

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1)you asked for 2 to be replaced, the other 2 I expect were changed so as to pass the mot.

2)Depending on the car, £20 is not enough to change some bulbs, it wouldn't even change 1.

3)why would they want to put a nail in your tyre? I think they were good at pointing it out to you, your computer didn't.

 

A mot with repairs @ £69.19 is bloody cheap in my eyes, and I would have left a tip.

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a lot of the clear type indicator lenses have orange painted bulbs. these age and the paint falls off, so the garage changed them to get the car through the m.o.t. , a nail or other object in the tyre may not have gone through far enough to cause a puncture- however there is the possibility it may do so in the future, that is why it is reported on a mot. as riget posted, a cheap mot, well done.

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Next time change the bulbs yourself.

 

I can't really agree with the others that adding £20 is 'cheap' but since you asked them to do the bulbs it's above board unless a lower price was agreed.

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£20 to change bulbs that equates to about 15 mins labour at todays rates so is about right.

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First of all Apologies as I have posted this in the DVLA thread, if an Admin could rectify it for me I would be grateful. Anyway:

 

Just had my car MOT'd after returning home from holiday and realising that it expires today!

 

Basically, it cost me £69.19. I told the guy that the sidelamp bulb at the front was faulty and there was one bulb gone at the rear.

 

I have the following breakdown:

 

TIME RATE VAT NET

MOT TEST 0.0 £39.95

REPLACE N/S/F SIDELIGHT BULB

REPLACE FADED FLASHER BULBS

REPLACE SIDE REPEATER BULBS 0.40 50.00 17.5 £20.00

LABOUR SUB TOTAL £59.95

 

then i have 4 bulbs which cost £4.89

 

The total cost of the MOT was therefore £64.84 + £4.35 VAT = £69.19

 

I cant help but thinking

1) why replace 4 bulbs when I only needed 2

2) Does it really take £20 to replace bulbs?

3) They also said I had a nail in my rear tyre..... My car has a computer that tells you if and when you have a puncture, or the pressure is low etc, and it never has before, so if it does when i go out in a minute theyve done that havent they?

 

Unless I'm much mistaken the breakdown you have reproduced shows you have been charged £20 for replacing four bulbs (i.e. 0.40 of an hour @ £50.00 per hour). 0.40 of an hour I calculate to be 24 minutes and if you divide that by the number of bulbs to be changed it works out to an average of 6 minutes per bulb. Not too bad I wouldn't have thought!!

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Many thanks for your replies guys, the general consensus (sp) is that I did get a fair deal. However, now my car is telling me that I have an indicator bulb faulty, a brake light bulb faulty and they also havent replaced the bulb at the back which I asked them to. The only fault that my car used to detect and also that I had identified was that the sidelamp bulb was faulty. None of the other warnings had ever been identified.

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Many thanks for your replies guys, the general consensus (sp) is that I did get a fair deal. However, now my car is telling me that I have an indicator bulb faulty, a brake light bulb faulty and they also havent replaced the bulb at the back which I asked them to. The only fault that my car used to detect and also that I had identified was that the sidelamp bulb was faulty. None of the other warnings had ever been identified.

 

Hi,

 

You say "However, now my car is telling me that I have an indicator bulb faulty, a brake light bulb faulty". By this I assume the on-board computer you mentioned when talking about the nail in a tyre?

 

Have you checked outside the car by looking at the indicators and brake lights that the bulbs the computer says aren't working are actually not working. I have known "bulb check" systems to show wrong information after a bulb change.

Jimbo 44 - always happy to help, but always willing to learn from being corrected too!!! Whilst any advice given may be based upon personal experience, please always be sure you seek guidance from a professional in the particular field.

 

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sometimes cars need to have the warning systems reset, ie i had new front brake pads on mine a couple of weeks ago, and as the warning light had come on a new sensor was fitted as well, when the car was started the low brake warning light was still on, a quick scout around the internet and i found out that if carried out a certain procedure the light would go off- hey presto it did.

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sometimes cars need to have the warning systems reset, ie i had new front brake pads on mine a couple of weeks ago, and as the warning light had come on a new sensor was fitted as well, when the car was started the low brake warning light was still on, a quick scout around the internet and i found out that if carried out a certain procedure the light would go off- hey presto it did.

 

Where did you find that and for what car??

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aha french car, did anyone see the watchdog programme about it taking upto an hour to change one headlamp bulb on a Laguna 2!!

Unless I'm much mistaken the breakdown you have reproduced shows you have been charged £20 for replacing four bulbs (i.e. 0.40 of an hour @ £50.00 per hour). 0.40 of an hour I calculate to be 24 minutes and if you divide that by the number of bulbs to be changed it works out to an average of 6 minutes per bulb. Not too bad I wouldn't have thought!!

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Official time to change a Laguna ii front headlamp is 1hr 30 mins.

 

Well my mate is an auto spark, he came around and changed a bulb for me in about 2 and a half minutes.

 

Its done now anyway, Im just not going to go back to that garage, ever.

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My last MOT required a Number Plate Bulb replacing. The MOT was £30.00. When I asked what I owed for the replacement bulb the answer was "nothing".

 

Been going to the same place for 20 years now and will continue to do so.

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Sorry Davey - I think you are being overly critical here. They have charged you a reasonable amount and done what they said. Just because your "mate" fitted a single bulb in 2 and a half minutes does not mean that they could all have been changed in that time.

I feel sorry for legitimate garages - they are tarred with the same brush as all the cowboys out there so that even when they do a good job they are seldom praised, but god help them if they mess up in any way.

 

Give the guys a break and credit where it is due, and to be perfectly honest if I was the owner of the garage you are so lucky to have found (ie an honest one) Im not sure I would want you as a customer.

 

dw190 Good on you - credit where it is due....

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dw190 Good on you - credit where it is due....
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Well my mate is an auto spark, he came around and changed a bulb for me in about 2 and a half minutes.

 

Its done now anyway, Im just not going to go back to that garage, ever.

 

I think the garage would also be happy in that case:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

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I was told by a customer today that the local renault main dealer are charging £500 to change the headlight on a Megane.

 

*legal disclaimer* I am simply quoting what a customer told me. I take no responsibility for the accuracy of this information.

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Well my mate is an auto spark, he came around and changed a bulb for me in about 2 and a half minutes.

 

Its done now anyway, Im just not going to go back to that garage, ever.

 

 

It does depends on the model and detail of the car. Some lagunas are easypeasey to do. Others are not. I know that the later Turbo Diesels are a nightmare to do as the bulb unit has to be removed from the vehicle and replaced and reaimed.

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Sorry Davey - I think you are being overly critical here. They have charged you a reasonable amount and done what they said. Just because your "mate" fitted a single bulb in 2 and a half minutes does not mean that they could all have been changed in that time.

I feel sorry for legitimate garages - they are tarred with the same brush as all the cowboys out there so that even when they do a good job they are seldom praised, but god help them if they mess up in any way.

 

Give the guys a break and credit where it is due, and to be perfectly honest if I was the owner of the garage you are so lucky to have found (ie an honest one) Im not sure I would want you as a customer.

 

dw190 Good on you - credit where it is due....

 

I think the garage would also be happy in that case:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

 

Well I have since discovered that the bulb they fitted was wrong and blew the earth in the light unit. The connector was burned out. My mate has had to wire the connection to the unit itself. So like I said, I wont be going back there again.

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