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On Monday last week I emailed the St Andrews group asking for historic t's and c's for the PPI (they issued the insurance according to details I've found). They asked for further details so that they could find the terms (slightly odd as I just wanted historic terms, I didn't want any personal details, just generic terms.

 

On Wednesday, after having sent the policy number, they posted another current copy of the terms. The email clearly stated terms relating to the period of either 99/01, depending on when it was started (which they would have known from the policy number).

 

On Thursday my OH had a phone call saying they couldn't send the details as I'd sent the email and wasn't named on the account. OH confirmed he wanted them, said he just needed the historic docs, and the lady on the phone said she'd get them out. All sounding good so far.

 

Saturday (can't fault them for speed with this!) a package turns up. It contains all the information they've already sent under the SAR, with a couple of extra pages detailing the emails/phone call. Oh, and no terms whatsover, either old or new.

 

Apparently this is under the SAR I did, but it is sent in reaction to the completely unrelated email I sent, where I did not mention the SAR etc, just said I needed a copy of the old terms.

 

Now I have no idea whether they are saying this is part of the SAR (which I sent a reminder for), or whether it's relating to the email/phone call we had with them last week!!

 

How hard do they need to make this??

 

I'm going to give them the rest of the 14 extra days I gave them, then if nothing turns up I'll start the PPI claim anyway and base it on their current terms as they appear to be saying they are the ones we need to use!

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hello everyone

 

thanks milly, im ready to get my claws into a reply to them this week, oh boy have i got a few choice sentences of my own lol

 

hey lexis where are you gal, tried to pm you your inbox is full..

 

hope u are all well

 

laters angel x

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Hey Angel:)

 

I've been hiding:D I had a bit of a heavy night on Saturday (I have no recollection of a good portion of the evening:oops:) and then I've been on a go slow this week as the pc's were being 'fixed' by my OH. Of course that means they've been kaput for over a day:rolleyes:

 

Had a couple of calls yesterday from the lovely BofS. OH answered the first one and had a good 10/15 minute conversation with the woman from collections. Went through everything, said in writing only and she must have tried to give him the number for disputes half a dozen times - what is it about 'in writing only' that they just don't get??

 

Also re-iterated that as per the letter they received on the 26th, all calls from them would be charged at a fiver after the two days grace I gave them to take the number off the list. She said they don't have notes about that, only that there is an arrears amount. OH pointed out that it was their own problem if their hugely sophisticated system wasn't up to showing proper notes. That didn't register with her:rolleyes:

 

She also tried to tell him that as he was behind in payments his terms showed they could phone if they wanted (what terms, you haven't sent any!). He did say a good few times that the banking code kind of superceded their companies t's and c's, but that wasn't going in either.

 

Anyway, she said she'd put a hold on calls for 10 days.

 

About 4 hours later, after the two texts (to mobile, which they have been informed is a work number) telling OH to phone, he had another call. Asked if there were any notes on the system. There was one. It said 'customer is going to phone disputes department'. OH MY GOD HOW INEPT WAS SHE????

 

He was to be fair extremely good. He listened to everything, wrote down the notes and read them back - even the bit about the £5 per call which he must have thought OH was a loon to be saying:D - never lost his rag, was highly apologetic for the previous numpty etc. Oh, and he gave his full name which just never happens!

 

Soooo, I need to sort them out now. I'll wait for the 14 days I gave them to answer my last letter, and if nothing comes of that I'll get another one out to them with the latest load of rubbish they've come up with (including the DN being sent to a known wrong address - they even have our new postcode for the security questions so there's no mistaking it!!), plus a bill for the calls received.

 

Anyone reckon they'll pay it, or will I have to send the bailiffs in? :D

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Hey milly

 

No, nothing at the moment. The clock is ticking on the letter deadline I gave them, so I'm hoping for something to turn up!

 

I did make a mistake on the DN though so I'm not expecting anything from this account for that (it was for the other bos account that already issued a DN, that's why I thought it was this one as the other already had one!)

 

It's funny how this one has gone eerily quiet, but the other one is more insistent isn't it? I wonder why...

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ok going to pm you just wanted to run something past you quickly for me ta angel x

Im happy to help with support and my own thoughts, but if I offer any thoughts to your problems please take it as from my life experience only and not of any legal standing. Always take further advice from the legal experts in your final action.:)

 

my new motto is,,,",Taking back control of your life and home - such peace is priceless"

 

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hiya gal

 

hope you are okay sorry we have missed ourselves on the threads

 

wanted to ask if you knew who is the top man or woman now at hbos, got my letter ready to send, but cant find stuff since that guy left

 

just a thought otherwise how do you write when you address to the top people much appreciated

 

davey has helped me with it since yesterday and ive learned no end

 

laters angel x

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Im happy to help with support and my own thoughts, but if I offer any thoughts to your problems please take it as from my life experience only and not of any legal standing. Always take further advice from the legal experts in your final action.:)

 

my new motto is,,,",Taking back control of your life and home - such peace is priceless"

 

This is all due to truecall device , have a serious peek at this you will be thankful like I am x laters angel :D

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hiya gal

 

hope you are okay sorry we have missed ourselves on the threads

 

wanted to ask if you knew who is the top man or woman now at hbos, got my letter ready to send, but cant find stuff since that guy left

 

just a thought otherwise how do you write when you address to the top people much appreciated

 

davey has helped me with it since yesterday and ive learned no end

 

laters angel x

thanks

 

Angel, I think the top man is Andy Hornby according to the article in the following link.

 

HBOS names new chief executive - Telegraph

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gosh citizenb

 

fab i was getting all confused last week

 

thanks for that,

 

laters and hiya to lexis too, hope all is well with you after your sat bash,,,lol

 

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I'm good now thanks angel:)

 

It was an Abba evening, so I was resplendent in kinky boots and false glittery lashes:D I very rarely drink as a) it's not something I miss if I don't and b) I'm normally conscious of my health issues. Occasionally though I have a little tipple, and this one consisted of about 3/4 litre of voddy. Seeing as the last time I had a drink was about 18 months ago I got a bit trousered:D

 

Fine now though after a full day in bed:D

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hahaha i just loved your reply :D

 

hey sometimes you must take a day off all this rubbish we are trying to deal with

 

life has to go on

 

anyway im off to bed and will catch up with all tomorrow

 

got lots of scanning to do,had bits and bobs so must alert you all

 

take care keep happy laters angel x:smile:

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hey lexis:) and hiya angel:)

 

Sounds like you had a great nite out and sounds just like me and the drink, thats prob why when i do have more than one glass of vino [like 2 lol:D!] it goes straight to my head. [i am not supposed to drink actually as I have a heart defib insitu and am on meds and am supposed to be coherent at all times! ]

 

hey angel you said you were confused , thats me at the best of times lol!!!

 

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I'm good now thanks angel:)

 

It was an Abba evening, so I was resplendent in kinky boots and false glittery lashes:D I very rarely drink as a) it's not something I miss if I don't and b) I'm normally conscious of my health issues. Occasionally though I have a little tipple, and this one consisted of about 3/4 litre of voddy. Seeing as the last time I had a drink was about 18 months ago I got a bit trousered:D

 

Fine now though after a full day in bed:D

 

Hmmmmm, 8-)

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Right then, response received.

 

As expected really, essentially according to them:

 

 

  • it's completely legible (no it isn't)
  • it's a fully executed agreement (no it isn't)
  • it's not in dispute (didn't say it was in that letter:rolleyes:)
  • they haven't served court papers (NIP seems pretty court-y to me)
  • bos are collecting, the debt still belongs to bofs (didn't answer my question)
  • they decline my request to zero the balance (big surprise there)

This is my reply - rather short and sweet for me. I don't feel like going into one at the moment.

 

Thank you for your clear and concise letter of the 9th February, received today. It actually was pretty reasonable!

 

 

Unfortunately, despite being well laid out and apparently actually written by a person rather than someone using a variety of template answers, it still very deftly manages to avoid any of the pertinent questions raised.

 

The application form you have sent me is still illegible. To comply with the Consumer Credit Act 1974 it must be ‘easily legible’. It is not. I have gone over this on too many occasions to warrant stating it again. It is quite simply not acceptable, however many times you send it to me.

 

You have at no time included the historic terms and conditions. Again, I have given you the legislation that describes this necessity on more than one occasion.

 

These two facts mean you have not complied with the Act. This is not something I am willing to argue any longer, so despite having legislation backing my argument whilst you simply have opinions, it would appear we are at an impasse on this point.

 

This brings me to your statement that court papers have not been served. I am aware that actual papers have not been served. This is plainly due to the fact that there is no legal merit to your arguments. However the Notice of Intended Court Action dated the 23rd October that was sent to me from Blair, Oliver and Scott on behalf of their ‘client’ Bank of Scotland shows an intention to start action. It was in response to this that I requested the signed, executed agreement with all necessary documents and terms, both standard and prescribed, that would show a valid contract. This was made under the Civil Procedure Rules (and within my Subject Access Request, which has also not turned up the requested documentation). The CPR request was made in November, and has so far been ignored by both Blair, Oliver and Scott and the Bank of Scotland.

 

The application form you have sent is irredeemably unenforceable due to all the points I have raised in previous letters. I will not go over them again. You are aware of these indisputable facts, as am I. The application you have sent is in no way an enforceable agreement or contract. As such, there is no contract for me to be beholden to, so any arguments that you have based on a contract being in place (such as your right to process my data) are without merit.

 

You confirmed in your last letter that your opinion, and therefore the Bank of Scotland’s opinion, is that the piece of paper you have sent to me four times is a fully executed agreement. It is not, and it would appear that you have failed in your obligations to comply with the various anti money laundering regulations in not keeping such an important document as a contractually binding, valid agreement; if indeed any such document ever existed. This, as I’m sure you are aware, is a very serious offence.

 

In light of the above I respectfully suggest you re-consider your thoughts on reducing my balance to zero.

 

I re-iterate I am giving statutory notice under Section 10 of the Data Protection Act to cease processing any data in relation to this account with immediate effect. There is no valid contract in place, and never has been. Therefore you do not, and have never had the right to process my data. Should you fail to respond within 14 days, I will expect that this means you agree to remove all such data.

 

I would ask that you review this account once more, and respond favourably within 14 days of receipt of this letter.

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Superb letter, Lexis.:)

 

Do you get the feeling that the bods at BOS believe that if they repeat a lie often enough it will become true; or people will believe it to be true? Everyone repeat after me, the sky is green, the sky is green, the sky is green - sigh:rolleyes:

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Thanks underdog:)

 

It's very truncated for me; I was quite proud it was only a page and a half, and that included the addresses and references above the actual letter, and the sig below!

 

I think you're entirely right you know. If they had a leg to stand on OH would have been in court ages ago. Plus, the letters are increasingly addressing the fact that an unenforceable agreement does not mean they can't collect - they are no longer saying they consider it enforceable.

 

It seems they are attempting to use so many half truths, and seemingly answer a question whilst actually ignoring the pertinant facts in order to wear you down. Personally I am getting to the stage where I just think sod them. I can't be bothered to quote the legislation and Acts that back my points up, as they just ignore them. If this letter is good to go (I've copied the money laundering bit to rory's thread where he didn't receive any agreement and sent a similar paragraph which I have just adapted for my needs just to make sure I'm not saying anything silly), I'll give them this one more chance to do what I've asked.

 

After that, if they still say no I'm basically going to tell them that's fine, but they're not getting any money and I won't enter into any correspondence again. Then I'll just ignore everything. I really feel I've given them enough opportunity to be reasonable, and even on the offchance OH does get taken to court, he can at least show a raft of letters trying to sort it out and get the right documentation.

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I really like that letter. That's what happens when a consumer gets fed up to the back teeth of reminding a large financial institution of their obligations and legal duties. I feel the same these days in that i am also of the mindset to say 'sod you, do what you like. I'm not bothered anymore'.

 

What's next? Actually ignore it all or ask the Court for an order for Disclosure under the CPR?

 

If i can't find a 'no win no fee' Solicitor or one that will do the job under legal aid i am going to write similar letters to all my lot (although with extra amounts of sarcasm.) ;)

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Hi davey, and thanks:)

 

I think I am just going to ignore them completely. They have not been paid anything on this account for several months now, and the last barrage of threatening post that OH had was really back in November. Anything past that has essentially been replies to my complaints and queries.

 

Personally I think it's the case that they know they're buggered, but won't admit it, which is why their letters are increasingly tending towards letting OH know even an unenforceable agreement doesn't stop them trying to collect rather than the earlier tactic of threatening him with all manner of diabolical punishments if he doesn't pay.

 

I was going to offer them a f+f if this whole zeroing the balance route didn't lead anywhere, just to get rid of them, but I'm thinking more now that unless they've issued a default (I haven't checked OH's record yet), it's not worth it and they can potter on until it becomes statute barred.

 

I may yet decide to do the court thing (which puts the fear of God into me:)), but as long as they stay this quiet I'm more tempted to just let it die a death.

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hiya lexis and all

 

sorry been hit and miss this week being here, but i love that letter fab

 

i been helping my friend on her possesion and eviction legals got a thread somewhere started, cant remember the title, at the mo

 

im so drained though with all that stuff and my stuff, need to get some inspiration again, i will have a good nights sleep and take care of business tomorrow, thanks for your pm appreciated

 

i finally got that letter off tonight, was very proud of myself, lets see

 

not heard from blair and scott for a few weeks, still need to do no doorstep visitors though and send that docs letter do it all in the same letter i reckon saves a bit of postage hahah

 

anyway i think that there will be millions in this country that have defaults on their files, the banks will soon have to change their way of thinking that they soon wont have anyone to lend or sell credit to, if they go by credit files info, ;)

 

i heard also the other day that dca will only be able to chase upto 3 years not 6 so thats a few of them that will also go out of buz

 

anyway im not planning on getting a new mortgage my rate is good, im concentrating on kicking all these sill unenenforceable ones into touch then i can pay over on the mortgage i can with 10% each year and reduce that to nil asap,,,well a few years i guess but hey who needs credit in the future, i wont

 

so sometimes it about looking outside the box and seeing the best form of action for yourselves and getting to that 6 years statue bar year,,,,lol

 

roll roll on, will there be anyone left in this country that will have a squeeky clean credit file????

 

laters guys off for a bit of dinner

 

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Hiya angel,

 

where did you hear about DCAs only being able to pursue for 3 years? Would be really helpful to quote the act, statute or whatever this comes from.

 

Hope you're feeling better soon - best of luck to you and your friend; fingers crossed for her that she avoids repossession.:)

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Hiya angel,

 

where did you hear about DCAs only being able to pursue for 3 years? Would be really helpful to quote the act, statute or whatever this comes from.

 

Hope you're feeling better soon - best of luck to you and your friend; fingers crossed for her that she avoids repossession.:)

 

hiya lexis and underdog

 

i saw that posted on a thread now once i find it will refer you to it, but i think its something that is being discussed at the moment, and if it becomes law the poster was saying a few dca will go out of buz but only my memory and this week, ive read so much i m goingto have to devise a system to record where snippets like this are for any future ref,,,lol

 

am feeling better today thank you, lets see what the weekend brings

 

laters guys angel x

Im happy to help with support and my own thoughts, but if I offer any thoughts to your problems please take it as from my life experience only and not of any legal standing. Always take further advice from the legal experts in your final action.:)

 

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