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Nope angel Ive heard nothing i would of thought that i would of heard from optima by now the court can do nothing until they get MBNA's proposals.

 

I'm going to phone the court tomorrow and find out if they have heard anything if they have not im gona apply for a strike out with costs.

 

The judge said on the 15th adjourned until first hearing after the 29/01/09 so they have had 2 weeks to put there proposal into court.

 

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well good luck, hope you can go for that strike out and Costs

 

im in early days yet but trying to learn everything i can about everything i can,,,lol

 

default notices, termination have hit me squarely in the eyes from some of my creditors but mbna seem intent to just add the charges and not fudge yet,

 

im sending fos complaints now just for the hell of it

 

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Pompey, what news from the court ?

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Nothing citizen they said that they have nothing else on file so im wondering my next move i just asked if they have heard from optima at all .

 

Surely if the judge said on the 15th reset for first hearing after the 29th optima should have got back to the court by now with there proposals.

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Nothing citizen they said that they have nothing else on file so im wondering my next move i just asked if they have heard from optima at all .

 

Surely if the judge said on the 15th reset for first hearing after the 29th optima should have got back to the court by now with there proposals.

 

YOu would have thought so, however, who knows what goes through the minds of these people.:confused:

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a bit of abuse of process going on here, but that is nothing new to optima legal i sent the cpr part 18 in july and did not get a reply until 2 weeks before hearing

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a bit of abuse of process going on here, but that is nothing new to optima legal i sent the cpr part 18 in july and did not get a reply until 2 weeks before hearing

 

Doesnt seem fair really does it. If you had tried any of these tricks, the court would be down on you like a ton of bricks:(

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Hello All

 

I got a court order though today with another hearing set for 21st April.

 

It says on there that sols have until 4pm 29th January to produce further evidence i phoned the court on friday and nothing was forthcoming then.

 

Should i phone them again tomorrow and check if there is nothing what should i do next can i apply for strike out on a summery judgement ?.

 

I am also concerned about the costs as there where costs added to my last MBNA statement ?

 

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Hmmm, the order was drawn up on the 28th January. The claimant had until 4pm the following day (29th January) to provide any further evidence in support of it's claim.. 1 day ??.

 

I am not sure what you should do next.

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the sols have had since the 15th as that was my last hearing when the judge gave the order

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What do i do now blimey i was issued a new date for the Summary Judgment yes today for the 21st April 09 on an N24 this was dated the 15th January.

 

Copy of this above now to today i get a trial date sent for the 3rd March 09 dated the 29th January 09 on an N172 ?

 

Surely this cannot go though first until the summary has been heard ?

 

Ive phoned the court and the summary is still standing and she said i will have to write into the judge is there a form for this ?

 

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I could do with PT or any other siteteams take on this because it apears to me that optima are now going 4 trial nowing that summary would fail

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Sorry, can't be of any actual help Pompeyfaith, but I think it might be wise to click the triangle and get one of the site team looking at this as it seems like you need to get it sorted asap.

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yup i need to respond to this asap thank u though

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bump

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hiya PF

 

i seen your thread earlier, so sorry i cant help, with the legal stuff, still learning myself

 

i hope that someone will come to your aid this eve

 

will keep an eye out for anyone i can think of for you but im sure you wont be missed out

 

keep positive and have a look a the success threads won, and see if any of those match up to what you want to do and if they would kindly come and give you a hand, just a thought for you

 

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Can you post the document you received today please PF.

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Sure ill do it now will be up in 5 mins

 

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Here you go:

 

N172.jpg

 

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No offers then on what what Optima Legals game is then

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with all due respect to the siteteam as i know how busy they get two have viewed this thread today and left no comment i am now getting worried so if my case is now stuffed id be greatful if someone would say so at at least ill know what to expect

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gosh im really surprised you have not had a resourceful reply, hmme

 

what next, hang in until later

 

maybe others will come along but i can understand your concern,

 

wish i could help you but this is quite complex for me

 

off to bed, keep positive

 

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Pompey,

 

From a purely personal point of view, i had an extremely bad day yesterday and am now going to be spending the next day or so in Birmingham due to my work commitments. i just havent had the time to go through the thread and offer any formal response to your question

 

I think that you should also try and remember that, just because a site team member views your thread, it doesnt automatically mean they A) are knowledgable in your cases area of law and; B) are able to offer any kind of help

 

I will endeavour to reply when i get home from Birmingham but i must stress that if i dont get back til late tonight then its unlikely that i will reply today

 

Please bear with us

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I also had viewed your thread Pompey, but just because I'm on the site team it doesn't make my knowledge of the situation any greater than yours. I spend a lot of my spare time on CAG, but I have my own life to deal with too. Anyone can answer a thread and I wanted to see what others may suggest.

 

In the absence of any other constructive advice, I'd agree that you need to write to the court and ask for clarification as you've had conflicting correspondence. I would have thought a phone call should do it, but as it hasn't you need to write a letter IMO.

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