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A Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi (200 P S) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200cc (Sep.2015) Registration No, ******* Chassis number ***************** (“The Vehicle”).  A copy of the agreement is attached  2.  The price of the goods was £15,995.00. The Initial Rental was £8500.00.  The total charge for credit was £3575.;17 And the balance of £11,070.17 was payable by 59 equal consecutive monthly instalments of £187 63. payable on the 25th of each month. 3.  The following were expressed conditions of the set agreement, Clause 8: Our Right to End this Agreement  8.1   Subject to sending you the notice as required by law, any of the following events will entitle us to end this Agreement: 8.1.2  You fail to pay the advance payment (if any) or any of the payments as specified on the front page of this agreement or any other sum payable under this Agreement. 8.1.3 If any of the information you have given us before entering into this Agreement or during the term of this Agreement was false 8.1.4 We consider, acting reasonably, that the goods may be in jeopardy or that our rights in the goods may otherwise be prejudiced. 8.1.5 If you die 8.1.6 If a bankruptcy petition is presented against you; if you petition for your own bankruptcy, or make a live arrangement with your creditors or call a meeting of them. 8. 1.7 If in Scotland, you become insolvent or sequestration or a receiver, judicial factor or trustee to be appointed over any of your estate, or effects or suffer an arrestment, charge attachment or other diligence to be issued or levied on any of your estate or effects or suffer any exercise, or threatened exercise of landlords hype hypothec 8.1.8 If you are a partnership, you are dissolved 8.1.9 If the goods are destroyed, lost, stolen and/or treated by the insurer as a total loss in response to an insurance claim. 8.1.10 If we reasonably believe any payment made to us in respect of this Agreement is a proceed of crime. 8.1.11 If steps are taken by us to terminate any other agreement which you have entered into with us. 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If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate 4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:- a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement  number xxxxxx. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     The total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by First class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges 5.  At the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage. Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024  What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg  
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Hi,

I am new here and this is my first post so any help would be great.

 

I have some huge debts just now and was contemplating taking the IVA route until a few days ago a friend mentioned that he knows someone who was able to completely wipe out some credit card debts using the services of a group of financial experts who have found that many credit card agreements used by major lenders are fundamentally flawed and therefore unenforceable so in these cases the lender has no alternative but to write it off when you refuse to pay.

 

They review each individual credit agreement and then tell you if they think its enforceable or not and if it is not they charge you a fee to challenge the lender.

 

I have seen copies of letters from major lenders confirming to the friends friend that the debts were written off but I know how easy it is for forgeries to be made even though they look genuine.

 

Evidently the major banks became aware that many of their agreements did not comply with the Consumer Credit Act in April 2007 and changed the documentation at that time so any credit agreement taken out after that time is very likely to be enforceable.

 

I also understand that very few people are aware of this situation just now but that the major financial institutions have set aside billions for when the claims start to flood in.

 

I was wondering if anyone else had knowledge of such situations and could give any advice

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welcome to CAG

 

I think you may be referring to the Rankines,who have just been chinned in the High Court and landed with costs of over 100K

 

there is a load of information as to how to go about this in these pages....take time to familiarise yourself with the issues involved,and forget about the Rankines....

 

there is a thread about their losing case on this forum

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/legal-issues/147432-high-court-judgement-rankines.html?highlight=rankine

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you don't need to pay a fee to anyone-the advice available here is free,and IMO second to none....you'll soon find the guys you may well need to help you.Anyone charging money is like an ambulance chaser firm of compensation solicitors you see on the tv ads

 

avoid!!

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If a credit agreement does not contain all the prescribed terms then it is unenforceable under the 1974 Consumer Credit Act. This has been known for some time on this site.

They review each individual credit agreement and then tell you if they think its enforceable or not and if it is not they charge you a fee to challenge the lender.

All the information is available on this site for free.

HAVE YOU BEEN TREATED UNFAIRLY BY CREDITORS OR DCA's?

 

BEWARE OF CLAIMS MANAGEMENT COMPANIES OFFERING TO WRITE OFF YOUR DEBTS.

 

 

Please note opinions given by rory32 are offered informally as a lay-person in good faith based on personal experience. For legal advice, you must always consult a registered and insured lawyer.

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OK Thanks for that,I will have a good look around the site for the information.

Leaving aside the fee paying company option,is it true that many credit agreements are unenforceable and have many people successfully wiped out debts using the information on the site?

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These aren't the people previously mentioned, but has anyone heard of 'The Ultimate Entrepreneur Club'. I've had several emails from members and one of the things they claim they will give you details on when you join (£640) is how to legally wipe your debts out. In fact, it was trying to find out more about them that led me to this forum in the first place.

 

I know enough about them as a club now but I'd love to know how they think you can wipe your debts out. I wonder if it is just the CCA route or something else...

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If you haven't encountered them before, here's some of their spiel:

 

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Now this really does sound too good to be true! Can anyone shed any light on all of this? I've read things like this elsewhere on the web but never got the full details of how you can do this - assuming you can!

 

 

 

How to substantially reduce all your outstanding credit card payment debts legally and quickly overnight! And obtain an A1 credit rating within a few short months.

Thanks to a little-known but incredibly powerful loophole in existing laws and policies you can now approach the banks with this 100% legal method to eliminate any amount of credit card debt you currently have without the need to sign away your life to IVA's, Debt Management/Consolidation, or Bankruptcy.

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Were you aware that Banks and Credit Card companies NEVER use any of their Own money to fund your credit or loan, instead they use your name and signature to turn YOU into an asset, without your knowledge, or permission and then they get paid by the Bank of England to fund the asset......... A great deal for the credit card companies!

Every time they do this without providing full disclosure they are in violation of their own terms and conditions, which provides us with a legal loophole from which to escape from their [problem].

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I was listening to the radio a few days ago and it said that if you got your credit card before March 2007 you can wipe away the debt left outstanding on it. I have had a look online for any more info and cant seem to find anything...Anybody else heard of this?

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I was listening to the radio a few days ago and it said that if you got your credit card before March 2007 you can wipe away the debt left outstanding on it. I have had a look online for any more info and cant seem to find anything...Anybody else heard of this?

 

Unsubstantiated nonsense, if you mention the company I will not be responsible for what I will post. If you want genuine advice then post about YOUR situation. If you want comments about the radio/television/film and theatre.

Showbiz, entertainment and media news - Digital Spy

that is the site to go to.

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FSA Waiver on Bank Charges:http://www.fsa.gov.uk/pages/Doing/Regulated/Notify/Waiver/pdf/dir_quart_0709.pdf

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Unsubstantiated nonsense, if you mention the company I will not be responsible for what I will post. If you want genuine advice then post about YOUR situation. If you want comments about the radio/television/film and theatre.

Showbiz, entertainment and media news - Digital Spy

that is the site to go to.

 

I've been searching the threads, as there was a recent link to a radio program discussing CCA agreements, I have not been able to locate it although I am sure someone will come up with it.

I wonder if this is the program you tuned into, I am sure the discussion however was on correctly executed agreements.

Sorry yourbank, I am confused by your post what is "COMPANY" you would prefer Axiom99 not to mention.

 

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Yes there is a company (probably more than one) advertising on the radio. Seems they are hoping to make mega profits from it - much better to do it yourself IMO:D

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Nat West Bus Acct £1750 reclaim - WON

 

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GE Money sec loan - £1900 in charges - settlement agreed

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FirstPlus - missold PPI of £20K for friends - WON

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Unsubstantiated nonsense, if you mention the company I will not be responsible for what I will post. If you want genuine advice then post about YOUR situation. If you want comments about the radio/television/film and theatre.

Showbiz, entertainment and media news - Digital Spy

that is the site to go to.

 

I have debts of over £65000 with no real means of clearing them so I do not want to spend any more money to pay to a company to deal with it for me,however the prospect of trying to do this process myself is very daunting as the consequences of failure are very serious.

From reading the posts on this forum it seems that there really are genuine situations where people have been able to prove their debts are unenforceable so clearly if they can do it there must be companies out there that can do it too for people not comfortable with doing it for themselves.

What I was wanting to know is do other people know of genuine companies who charge a reasonable fee for an efficient reliable service as I am sure that if there are such organisations that could benefit some people.

To draw a comparison I am sure that there are forums on the web where you can find out how to service your car and some people will be confident enough to do this for themselves,however the vast majority of people will not be confident enough to do this so they will find a competent car servcing company who charge reasonable fees to do it for them.

The car servicing company makes a profit but so what every company has to make a profit or it goes bust.You do not see too many banks and credit card companies going bust.

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Oh yes you will... especially in the USA - their top three sub prime lenders now have not taken on new business in nearly 3 months and are selling as much old business as they can.

 

These companies who charge to 'stop your debtors chasing you' are preying on people, they don't do anything and if something ends up in court you get no help whatsoever from them. Don't use them at all they are a waste of time.

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Oh yes you will... especially in the USA - their top three sub prime lenders now have not taken on new business in nearly 3 months and are selling as much old business as they can.

 

These companies who charge to 'stop your debtors chasing you' are preying on people, they don't do anything and if something ends up in court you get no help whatsoever from them. Don't use them at all they are a waste of time.

 

If companies act in the manner you describe they are clearly more dangerous than doing it yourself but what I wanted to know was if people had found organisations that did offer a genuine service.

If we all accept that it possible to challenge lenders over debts as the posts on this forum clearly illustrates then as a result it is inconceivable that someone has not seen the commercial possibilities of ofering such a service in which case the challenge would seem to be to find a genuine company not a [problem] company.

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I recall that the advert I heard mentioned that they were registered with The Ministry of Justice.Surely that is evidence that they are actually government regulated.

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Your debts cannot be wiped out! You can employ a third party to do the CCA requests, and give an opinion on the validity of any agreements received. At the end of the day, it is still you who risk the outcome.

 

A judge could still decide to enforce a challenged agreement (wrongly),your only recourse from there is appeal, which could prove very costly.

 

In any event the debts would still remain.

Please note: I give advice, in good faith, based on my reading and experience. Please satisfy yourself, that any advice given is accurate in content before acting upon it.

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This argument was used by a CMC appointed barrister. Some bank or other v Mitchell (same guy as in June) Judge Langan (same judge as in June) in Leeds County Court yesterday.

Case was heard yesterday but judgement was reserved and shold be handed down in the next two weeks -whichever party loses is likely to appeal.

 

One of the prescribed terms within Schedule 6 of the Agreement Regulations is a term stating “the credit limit or the manner in which it will be determined or a statement that there is no credit limit”.It should be noted that the creditor has the option of choosing one of the three means of complying with the requirements of Schedule 6.In the present case the Claimant has most definitely not stated the credit limit within the credit agreement;it has not stated there is no credit limit.

That leaves only the option of stating”the manner in which the credit limit will be determined”.We are concerned therefore with the manner of determination.

 

It is submitted that the words” We set a credit limit and can change it.We will notify you of the limit and any changes” does not satisfy the requirements of Schedule 6.

The statement is meaningless in relation to how the credit limit will be set.

A determination is an ascertainment or fixing and the reference to “the manner” requires reference to some sort of methodology.

 

The claimant will no doubt respond that there are millions of credit agreements which use similar rubric and that the use of such phraseology has become an industry standard.But that misses the point .Parliament was quite specific in its requirements and as was found in Wilson v First County Trust there is no room fortolerance or deviation from the strict requirements of Schedule 6.If this case opens up floodgates then so be it.

 

 

Should be interesting !!

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