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    • I disagree with the charge and also the statements sent. Firstly I have not received any correspondence from DVLA especially a statutory notice dated 2/5/2024 or a notice 16/5/2024 voiding my licence if I had I would have responded within this timeframe. The only letter received was the single justice procedure notice dated the 29.5.2024 this was received on 4.6.2024. I also disagree with the statement that tax was dishonoured through invalid indemnity claim. I disagree that the licence be voided I purchased the vehicle in Jan 2024 from RDA car sales Pontefract with agreement to collect the car on the 28.1.2024. The garage taxed the vehicle on the 25.1.24 for eleven payments on direct debit  using my debit card on my behalf. £62.18 was the initial payment on 8.2.24  and £31 per month thereafter the second payment was 1.3.24.This would run from Jan 24 to Dec 24 and a total of £372.75, therefore the car was clearly taxed before  I took the car away After checking one of my vehicle apps  I could see the vehicle was showing as untaxed it later transpired that DVLA had cancelled my tax , without reason and I did not receive any correspondence from DVLA to state why it was cancelled or when. The original payment of £62.18 had gone through and verified by my bank Lloyds so this payment was not declined. I then set up the direct debit again straight away at my local post office branch on 15.2.2024 the first payment was £31 on 1.3.2024 and subsequent payments up to Feb 2025 with a total of £372.75 which was the same total as the original DD that was set up in Jan, Therefore I claimed the £62.18 back from my bank as an indemnity claim as this payment was from the original cancelled tax from DVLA and had been cancelled . I have checked my bank account at Lloyds and every payment since Jan 24  up to date has been taken with none rejected as follows: 8.2.24 - £62.15 1.3.24 - £31.09 2.4.24 - £31.06 1.5.24 - £31.06 3.6.23-£31.06 I have paper copies of the original DD set up conformation plus a breakdown of payments per month , and a paper copy of the second DD setup with breakdown of payments plus a receipt from the post office.I can also provide bank statements showing each payment to DVLA I also ask that my licence be reinstated due to the above  
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    • I've completed a draft copy to defend and will post up here for review.  Looking over the dates and payments this all stemmed from DVLA cancelling in Feb , whereby I set up a new DD in Feb hence the overlap, why they cancelled when I paid originally in Jan I have no idea. Anyway now stuck with pending court action and a suspended licence . I am also firing off a letter to DVLa recorded disputing the licence revoke
    • Thank you both for your expert knowledge and understanding. You're fighting the good fight by standing up for people like me and others with limited knowledge of this stuff. I thank you. I know all my DVLA details are good. I recently (last year) renewed my license, and my car's V5 is current with the correct details; the same is valid for my partner. I'll continue to ignore the love letters 😂 and won't let it bother either me or my partner.  I'll revisit this post if/when I get a letter of claim.  F**k ém.
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If your referring to my post Mr Shed as the post 'above' where have I criticised the Police. I haven't I've only suggested the OP get their cooperation to commence a claim against the insurer for negligence & then for exacerbating matters by denying it

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No it wasnt your post JC - sorry meant above generally, not directly above :). It was someone elses(letshelp).

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It was my post MrS was talking about, it was not a dig at the cops, my point is simply, I agree the cops had reasonable cause to remove and impound the vehicle in the first instance given the information that had been supplied to them, what I am saying is that once that information was found to be wrong, as the op was insured, then the authority for keeping the vehicle impounded has gone, and by continuing to hold onto the vehicle they are acting without authority. I would suggest that the initial charge should be met by the insurer, but I believe the cops should be liable from the time they were informed that they had acted on duff info.

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Except that the police no longer have his car. The towing and storage will have been contracted out to a private company. They are the ones that need paying and are unlikely to release the car until they are.

 

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letshelp I understand what you saying but the Police are bullet proof here & the private contractor who lifted the car wants paid. No the villains here seem to be the OP's insurer & he has much more chance of collecting from them than the police

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The contracted company are agents for the Police, they are only used because the police don't have the storage facilities themselves. I appreciate they will want paying.

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The Police pay out so much money in damages each year across all kinds of mistakes, I think the days of them being bullet proof have well gone.

I don't know if I'm getting my point across here, let me use another example:

If the Police arrest you on suspicion of a crime and take you into custody, thats ok, BUT, if whilst you are in custody they receive information or establish facts to show you are innocent of the allegation, and they continue to hold you in custody, they can be sued for unlawfull imprisonment. Why should it be any different with your property?

I feel that the police should have informed the private contractor as soon as they were aware that the information they initially acted on has been proved incorrect, to release the vehicle on payment of the charges to that day. I would then agree that thoses charges should be recovered from the OP insurance company. Hope this clarifies my point.

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I understand completely what your saying What I'm saying is your mistaken the loss including the consequential loss of the car being impounded beyond the original day lies with the insurer not the Police.

 

And as I understand it the OP cannot collect the car because they can't pay the original charge

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If your Brother has been told no conact was made then he should ask for this in writing.

 

This along with a letter to the station that is dealing with it would be needed.

 

But since it's now after 28 days, is the car still there?

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I agree with letshelp.

 

My car was stolen recovered and impounded; police then forgot to take the keys from me, meaning i had 300 mile round trip to drop the keys off.

 

I get a call 4 days later saying go and get your car.

Police sent me to the yard where i was told to pay 200 for storage.

 

I told them that i had not asked the police to bring it here and i have travelled £150 twice due to police admin incompetency.

 

They phoned the Met who agreed it was stolen recovered (not a fine impounding or anything) they agreed to pick up the charge!

 

Its just poor admin and sometimes over zealous policing at its best!

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Does anyone know which legislation it is that covers this? We need to check exactly what the police's powers are once insurance cover is established.

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OK, the legislation is here:

 

Serious Organised Crime and Police Act 2005 (c. 15)

 

It looks as if the police can demand payment even if they were wrong or misinformed. However, it doesn't seem to specifically say they can retain the vehicle until the fee is paid. This might come under a common law lien.

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I agree with letshelp.

 

My car was stolen recovered and impounded; police then forgot to take the keys from me, meaning i had 300 mile round trip to drop the keys off.

 

I get a call 4 days later saying go and get your car.

Police sent me to the yard where i was told to pay 200 for storage.

 

I told them that i had not asked the police to bring it here and i have travelled £150 twice due to police admin incompetency.

 

They phoned the Met who agreed it was stolen recovered (not a fine impounding or anything) they agreed to pick up the charge!

 

Its just poor admin and sometimes over zealous policing at its best!

 

 

You must have caught them on a good day because they didn't have to

 

In the circumstances you describe veester such recovery & storage charges are, subject to your policy excess of course, recoverable under your own insurance policy.

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