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    • Hi everyone, Apologies for bringing up the same topic regarding these individuals. I wish I had found this forum earlier, as I've seen very similar cases. However, I need your help in figuring out what to do next because we've involved our partners/resellers. I work as an IT Manager in a company outside of the UK. We acquired a license from a certified reseller (along with a support agreement) and also obtained training sessions from them. The issue arose when we needed to register two people for the training sessions, so we used an external laptop for the second user to keep up with the sessions for only a month. During this period, the laptop was solely used for the training sessions. After two weeks, my boss forwarded an email to me from Ms Vinces, stating that we are using illicit software from SolidWorks. Since this has never happened to me or anyone we know, I went into panic mode and had a meeting with her. During the meeting, we explained that we were using an external laptop solely for the training sessions and that the laptop had not been used within the company since her email. She informed us that for such cases, there are demos and special licenses (though our reseller did not mention these types of licenses when we made our initial purchase). She then mentioned that we had utilized products worth approximately €25k and presented us with two options: either pay the agreed value or acquire SolidWorks products. We expressed that the cost was too high, and our business couldn't support such expenses. I assured her that we would discuss the matter with the company board and get back to her. After the meeting, we contacted the company reseller from whom we purchased the license, explained the situation, and mentioned the use of an external laptop. They said they would speak to Maria and help mediate the situation. We hoped to significantly reduce the cost, perhaps to that of a 1-year professional license. Unfortunately, we were mistaken. The reseller mediated a value €2k less than what Maria had suggested (essentially, we would need to acquire two professional lifetime licenses and two years of support for a total of €23k). This amount is still beyond our means, but they insisted that the price was non-negotiable and wouldn't be reduced any further. The entire situation feels odd because she never provided us with addresses or other evidence (which I should have requested), and she's pressuring us to resolve the matter by the end of the month, with payment to be made through the reseller. This makes me feel as though the reseller is taking advantage of the situation to profit from it. Currently, we're trying to buy some time. We plan to meet with the reseller next week but are uncertain about how to proceed with them or whether we should respond to the mediator.
    • Thanks London  if I’ve read correctly the questionaire wants me to post his actual name on a public forum… is that correct.  I’ve only had a quick read so far
    • Plenty of success stories, also bear in mind not everyone updates the forum.  Overdale's want you to roll over and pay, without using your enshrined legal right to defend. make you wet yourself in fear that a solicitor will Take you to court, so you will pay up without question. Most people do just that,  but you are lucky that you have found this place and can help you put together a good defence. You should get reading on some other Capital One and Overdale's cases on the forum to get an idea of how it works.  
    • In both versions the three references to "your clients" near the end need to be changed to "you" or "your" as Alliance are not using solicitors, they have sent the LoC themselves. Personally I'd change "Dear ALLIANCE PARKING Litigation Dept" to "Dear Kev".  It would show you'd done your homework, looked up the company, and seen it's a pathetic one-man band rather than having any departments.  The PPCs love to pretend they have some official power and so you should be scared of them - showing you've sussed their sordid games and you're confident about fighting them undermines all this.  In fact that's the whole point of a snotty letter - to show you'd be big trouble for them if they did do court so better to drop you like a hot potato and go and pursue mugs who just give in instead. In the very, very, very, very unlikely case of Kev doing court, it'd be better that he didn't know in advance all the legal arguments you'd be using, so I'd heavily reduce the number of cards being played.
    • Thanx Londoneill get on to it this evening having a read around these forums I can’t seem to find many success stories using your methods. So how successful are these methods or am I just buying time for him  and a ccj will be inevitable in the end. Thanks another question is, will he have to appear at court..? I am not sure he has got it in him
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Hi Guys,

 

Firstly I must say what a great job you are all doing on this site.

 

I received a ticket from Car Parking Management Cumbria in October for parking for 2 mins one friday night in a car park owned by iceland.

 

The ticket has Rossendales collect Ltd on the top of the ticket. I was with my friend whos van it was and agreed to cover the ticket as he was helping me with work.the ticket was for £80 or £40 if you paid within 10 days.

 

To be honest i put the ticket in the draw and forgot about it !

 

We actually saw the guy who put the ticket on the van rush back to his 4x4 which he had parked right infront of our van and speed off when he saw us returning to the van (there was no-one else in the car park as it was about 8pm).

 

My friend received a letter today from Rossendales debt collectors saying

 

"We are instructed that you have igrored previous requests for payment and we intend to recover the outstanding debt immediately.

Unless you pay us the debt amount in full within 7 days or contact us immediately with your proposals recovery action will commence"

 

This is followed by an 0845 number to ring

 

My friend says he has heard nothing from them untill today so what is all the rubbish about ignoring previous requests ?

 

Any suggestions on what to do as I really dont fancy wasting £80 for 2 mins parking !

 

Thankyou

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Hi Dancer,

 

First of all DON'T ring the number - it will be premium rated.

 

This is a private ticket, it is basically a [problem]. The tickets are made up to look like council ones so that people pay up thinking that they have to.

 

Do not pay.

 

The “ticket” is virtually unenforceable and the truth is that the Parking Company will probably not even try to enforce it by legal action. Instead they will use debt collectors who will threaten references to credit agencies, personal visits by bailiffs and removal of property. These threats have no foundation. The reality is they would need to bring civil litigation in the county court against the driver and prove a breach of prominently displayed terms and conditions. They get the DVLA to identify the registered keeper of the vehicle but you have no responsibility to tell them who was driving (even if it was you) and enforcement can only take place against the driver. These cases are largely dealt with by threats and bluster rather than any real action on the basis that most people pay up to avoid hassle

 

Don’t be a mug – stand firm don’t be bullied.

 

Did I mention - don't pay

 

I'd urge you to read the "Sticky" at the top of this forum "Private Parking - All you need to know" which goes into some detail regarding these [problematic] and how they operate.

 

Also on a "sticky" are Bernie's template letters which you can use to see these chancers off.

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I also had a parking ticket from Rossendales Collect for parking at Iceland for an overstay of 3 minutes! I had no ticket on the car - the first I heard was a threatening letter through the post saying because I had not paid the ticket I was charged £40 late payment and £40 for the fine.

I telephoned saying I had no knowledge of ticket and they sent photographic evidence! I paid the £40 but refused to pay late payment as I'd never seen a ticket. I only discovered your site after paying the £40. I sent them a stern letter with your guidance and I have had a letter today to say a debt collector will be around in the next few days to collect the remaining amount!

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I also had a parking ticket from Rossendales Collect for parking at Iceland for an overstay of 3 minutes! I had no ticket on the car - the first I heard was a threatening letter through the post saying because I had not paid the ticket I was charged £40 late payment and £40 for the fine.

I telephoned saying I had no knowledge of ticket and they sent photographic evidence! I paid the £40 but refused to pay late payment as I'd never seen a ticket. I only discovered your site after paying the £40. I sent them a stern letter with your guidance and I have had a letter today to say a debt collector will be around in the next few days to collect the remaining amount!

Use the template letters - What to do if you wrote first. Put in a line withdrawing your common law permission for a debt collector to call and send recorded delivery.

 

If a debt collector shows then phone the cops. They're committing trespass and breaching section 40 of the AJA 1970 as well as the Protection from Harassment Act 1997They've absolutely no power to try and collect.

 

In short tell them to FOAD.

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'Small' things like this can get on top of you - I very much appreciate having some support on this. I can't bear bullies but sometimes its hard to stand up on your own.

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What is the 'sticky' you refer to 'Private Parking - all you need to know' - I have looked all over and can't find! I'm new to this!!

 

Link here: http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/parking-traffic-offences/65341-private-parking-companies-charges.html

 

You've already paid them - more is the pity. Believe me there is not a chance in hell of them pursuing you through the courts for their "late payment". I'd just blank them from now on, after 2 - 3 letters they will start to get the hint.

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Ok Pat you are right, 0845 is different from 0870, I must have been tired.

 

My advice would remain the same however. There is absolutely no point in ringing a debt collection agency. The only point of ever communicating with these people is to leave a correspondance trail, leaving a permanent record in writing.

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