Genealogy Thread

[Lula]

As the old genealogy thread got "lost" I have been notified of a need to replace it.

 

So if you are an amateur genealogist and need some help getting through those brick walls, or if you have any tips, tricks or hints that you could share, or even just want to talk about stuff that is genealogy related, then this is the place to come to.

 

I don't think we have the same resources that Nick Barratt has, but we can give it a go.

[elsinore]

Great idea, Lula, count me in.

 

Actually, I had a PM from somebody who lectures in the subject and who might be persuaded to contribute

 

Els

[Lula]

I think he was a previous contributor, I forget his name now, mainly because I am senile

[demon_x_slash]

Your descendants will doubtless hear plenty of stories about 'Batty Granny Lula' when conducting their own research in the future...

[Lula]

damn right LOL I am getting it all together for them, I show my monkey pictures and tell him stories about the family, hopefully by the time I shove off the mortal coil, some of it will have stuck and he will continue, or perhaps even my daughter, but i am really enjoying it

 

I have decided that my great great grandfather isnt dead at all, he will be 163 years old now and his death isnt registered anywhere, so if anyone sees an extremely old man answering to the name of Tommy Ball in the Fleetwood/Blackpool area, can you give me a shout please lol

[tiglet]

My mum has become somewhat of an expert on this sort of thing, so am more than willing to get her advice on any problems anyone is encountering - she's traced one side of the family back to pre-conquest Anglo Saxon royalty.

[Lula]

Blummin eck Tigs, how did she manage that? she must have had exceptional access to records and your family must have been very well connected in the first place should we be curtseying when we talk to you?

[tiglet]

Well, yes, actually Lula, you should.

 

Basically, her maiden name is very uncommon and is also a place name. By a lot of digging, she discovered that the name came from a Norman nobleman who came over in the conquest. for being so loyal etc. he got to marry one of the Anglo-Saxon royalty.

 

Interesting stuff, eh?

[blueskies]

My father researched he family tree when he was able to. He found the easiest route was along what should be the hardest route, the maternal side all the way up. Even though my surname isn't common in Kent, he has had great difficulties going any further than the generation above the living relatives, even though we know they lived there

[tiglet]

Did he try going through the records of the church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints (Mormons)?

[elsinore]

Yes, it's a very good resource Tigs. I have found references to some of my ancestors in their records that I was unable to find anywhere else.

 

We have a Mormon church just 6 miles away from us, so i have been able to view their microfilm library as well as the online resource.

 

Els

[tiglet]

Was just joking about the curtseying Lula - you can simply call me "ma'am" instead

[Guest Macedonian]

Great idea, Lula, count me in.

 

Actually, I had a PM from somebody who lectures in the subject and who might be persuaded to contribute

 

Els

 

It was me that was in touch with Elsinore and I will be happy to help out if I can. I run short courses in Internet Genealogy for a University.

 

M

[Hippy-chick]

I'd love to talk to you about this. As me ma is tracing our family history

[Castlebest]

I think my sister and I are the first generation in our family to wear jeans

[jailbird]

There is a quite famous shoe shop in these parts that goes by the name of tommy balls. Also got shops in Blackburn.

 

Chris

[ukaviator]

I think some of my work mates Gene Pools need Chlorinating. They are hard work today.

[Lula]

LOL I have heard of Tommy Balls shoe plae but not sure that he is connected although my gg grandfather was somewhat of an entrepreneur I am not sure that I stretched out as far as blackburn but you never know eh?

 

HC, if you need some help just give us a shout, start by writing down your parents names and place/date of birth and go back as far as you can then we can start some investigations.

 

Tigs - Ok Ma'am

[Hippy-chick]

*curtseys to tigs*

[tiglet]

That is perfectly Ok, my loyal subjects

[Guest Macedonian]

Basically, her maiden name is very uncommon and is also a place name. By a lot of digging, she discovered that the name came from a Norman nobleman who came over in the conquest. for being so loyal etc. he got to marry one of the Anglo-Saxon royalty.

 

Interesting stuff, eh?

 

Tiglet

 

The claim of ancestors who came at the Conquest is actually a bit of an old chestnut, that usually has little validity.

 

The best current authority on family names is David Hey's book Family Names and Family History (London: Hambledon and London, 2000).

 

In this he points out how there are virtually no proven claims to links that far back. Normally, such claims are based upon a shared surname with an early Medieval family, though he explains clearly how many of the aristocratic male lines failed a long time ago, and where the names survive they generally relate to a later branch of a family, or even an unconnected one.

 

It is very common for people to assume a link with Medieval aristocrats based purely on a shared surname, but this is often just fancy (and popular with Americans). He also provides examples of 'aristocratic' surnames appearing in medieval returns, for people who clearly are not part of a great family. I have also discovered this in my own research.

 

This book is usually easy to get hold of and is well worth studying for the clarity it brings to this subject that is so often misunderstood.

[dx100uk]

Great idea, Lula, count me in.

 

Actually, I had a PM from somebody who lectures in the subject and who might be persuaded to contribute

 

Els

 

i thought i felt my ears burning...............

 

there are or atleast were two ancestory.co.uk logins i gave over to the group some while back

 

i'll have a look to see if they are still active over the w/end

 

they both had full uk records access

 

 

dx100uk

[Lula]

ahhh dx , hello there, yes, at least one account is still active

[dx100uk]

great i've not even got the details to hand pls pm me with them.

it is poss 1 a/c is now defunct as the estab no longer exists, but i knew one was still going in sept.

 

if anyone has knowledge of the french eq of ancestory then please pm me, i have been stuck on one for 3yrs now, all i know is born 1834 in france. but the name is very unique [4 christain names].

 

dx100uk

[elsinore]

 

if anyone has knowledge of the french eq of ancestory then please pm me, i have been stuck on one for 3yrs now, all i know is born 1834 in france. but the name is very unique [4 christain names].

 

 

Hi dx. I'm not sure there is an equivalent, so I would start here

If it ain't on there, then it probably doesn't exist.

 

Els