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    • ae - i have no funds to appoint lawyers.   My point about most caggers getting lost is simply due to so many layers of legal issues that is bound to confuse.  
    • Lenders have a legal obligation to sell the property for the best price they can get. If they feel the offer is low they won't sell it, because it's likely the borrower will say the same.   Yes.  But every interested buyer was offering within a range - based on local market sales evidence.  Shelter site says a lender is not allowed to wait for the market to improve. Why serve a dilapidations notice? If it's in the terms of the lease to maintain the property to a good standard, then serve an S146 notice instead as it's a clear breach of the lease.   The dilapidations notice was a legal first step.  Freeholders have to give time to leaseholders to remedy.  Lender lawyers advised the property was going to be sold and the new buyer would undertake the work.  Their missive came shortly before contracts were given to buyer.  The buyer lawyer and freehold lawyers were then in contact.  The issue of dilapidations remedy was discussed..  But then lender reneged.  There was a few months where neither I nor freeholders were sure what was going on.  Then suddenly demolition works started.   Before one issues a s146 one has to issue a LBA.  That is eventually what happened. ...legal battle took 3y to resolve. Again, order them to revert it as they didn't have permission to do the works, or else serve an S146 notice for breach of the lease   A s146 was served.  It took 3y but the parties came to a settlement.   (They couldn't revert as they had ripped out irreplaceable historical features). The lease has already been extended once so they have no right to another extension. It seems pretty easy to just get the lawyer to say no and stick by those terms as the law is on your side there.  That's not the case   One can ask for another extension.  In this instance the freeholders eventually agreed with a proviso for the receiver not to serve another. You wouldn't vary a lease through a lease extension.  Correct.  But receiver lawyer was an idiot.   He made so many errors.  No idea why the receiver instructed him?  He used to work for lender lawyers. I belatedly discovered he was sacked for dishonesty and fined a huge sum by the sra  (though kept his licence).  He eventually joined another firm and the receiver bizarrely chose him to handle the extension.  Again he messed up - which is why the matter still hasn't been properly concluded.   In reality, its quite clear the lender/ receiver were just trying to overwhelm me with work (and costs) due to so many legal  issues.  Also they tried to twist things (as lawyers sometimes do).  They tried to create a situation where the freeholders would get a wasted costs order - the intent was to bankrupt the freeholders so they could grab the fh that way.   That didn't happen.  They are still trying though.  They owe the freeholders legal costs (s60) and are refusing to pay.  They are trying to get the freeholders to refer the matter to the tribunal - simply to incur more costs (the freeholders don't want and cant's afford to incur)  Enfranchisement isn't something that can be "voided", it's in the Leasehold Reform Act 1967 that leaseholders have the right to.... The property does not qualify under 67 Act.  Their notice was invalid and voided. B petition was struck out. So this is dealt with then.  That action was dealt with yes.   But they then issued a new claim out of a different random court - which I'm still dealing with alone.  This is where I have issues with my old lawyer. He failed to read important legal docs  (which I kept emailing and asking if he was dealing with) and  also didn't deal with something crucial I pointed out.  This lawyer had the lender in a corner and he did not act. Evidence shows lender and receiver strategy had been ....  Redact and scan said evidence up for others to look at?   I could.  But the evidence is clear cut.  Receiver email to lender and lender lawyer: "our strategy for many months  has been for ceo to get the property".  A lender is not allowed to influence the receivership.   They clearly were.  And the law firm were complicit.  The same firm representing the lender and the ceo in his personal capacity - conflict of interest?   I  also have evidence of the lender trying to pay a buyer to walk.  I was never supposed to know about this.  But I was given copies of messages from the receiver "I need to see you face to face, these things are best not put in writing".  No need to divulge all here.  But in hindsight it's clear the lender/ receiver tried - via 2 meetings - to get rid of this buyer (pay large £s) to clear the path for the ceo.   One thing I need to clarify - if a receiver tells a lender to do - or not to do - should the lender comply? 
    • Why ask for advice if you think it's too complex for the forum members to understand? You'd be better engaging a lawyer. Make sure he has understood all the implications. Stick with his advice. If it doesn't conform to your preconceived opinion then pause and consider whether maybe he's right.
    • The Barclay Card conditions is complete. There was only 3 pages. This had old address on. Full CCA. 15 pages. The only personal info is my name and address. Current Address The rest just like a generic document.  Barclays CCA 260424.pdf
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bad customer service from orange!


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I received a text saying I was incurring charges outside of my agreed account, and to contact them immediately so I did and was told my bill was due on 11 and hadn't been paid and had spent so much on calls this month.

I apologised and said I had set up a direct debit for the bill but was told it was not reset up on there side. I told them I would pay Tuesday but with her very rude attitude said we restricting your services I asked when she said NOW I requested she didn't as I was unawear the bill hadn't been taken and that I had 4 kids and husband who works nights and this is my only contact with him and I had been for a job interview and was told to contact them on Monday. She really didn't care and now I can't do anything on the phone.

 

My last bill was for around £65 including monthly fee.

I have a voicemail of the people I went for the job with but can not listen to it or get in contact with them im so upset by this and how it was handled by customer services.

 

Oh and because orange restricted me I can't contact them on phone no more!!

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I cant wait to leave orange they are useless try 0800 0790440 from a land line meant for new customers has worked for me

 

when they have restricted my phone 150 is barred too, not sure how they expect you to phone them

If i have helped in any way hit my star.

any advice given is based on experience and learnt from this site :-)

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I'm so annoyed nothing to say gonna restrict or account due till i rang them got no contact with any one now all by internet.

 

The phone is even due to be replaced with them as it broke since day 1 of having it and still nothing

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Just rang and asked and got a very strict no sorry we want money now!! I ended up loading my temper because if I got offered the job it was on my voicemail and i can't retrive it! So i told them i would sue them for it and just got so!! Grrrr

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Find them on twitter, complain there.

 

Read the "orange complaints code of practice" HERE and follow that. Try to push for a DEADLOCK letter.

If in doubt, contact a qualified insured legal professional (or my wife... she knows EVERYTHING)

 

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Just took me 15 mins to speak to a service leader, when asked for a manager got told none working today.

 

Then asked why they can't give me till Tuesday to pay and they say sorry you should have money available to sort out usage and just asked to take it further and got no we want do anything sorry so you followed the complaints code we want do anything.

 

What is a deadlock letter I've had enough now

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Read section 3 of the orange "complaints code of practice" that I posted above

If in doubt, contact a qualified insured legal professional (or my wife... she knows EVERYTHING)

 

Or send a cheque or postal order payable to Reclaim the Right Ltd.

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Foreign based Call Centres CANNOT offer good Customer Service: Difficult to understand - they did not understand me either. Take ages repeating and repeating the same old stuff, and when they reflect back what they think I said or need, get it wrong every time. Complete waste of effort and time - so frustrating! Have closed account as a result and would NEVER use them again.:-x

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Orange is owned by a French firm called France Telecom. Their CEO is called Stephane Richard. While you poor customers are having to put up with this kind of treatment, he has a personal fortune of £30 million. He's an entrepreneur, a "creator of wealth". Where would we be without people like him?

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