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    • just to be clear here..... the DVLA do not send letters if a drivers licence address differs from any car's V5C that shows the same driver as it's registered keeper.
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    • The DVLA keeps two records of you. One as a driver and one for your car. If they differ you might find out in around a month when they will send you a reminder as well as to your other half for their car. If you receive nothing then you can be fairly sure that you were tailgating though wouldn't explain why they didn't pick up your car on one of drive past their cameras. However even if you do get a PCN later then your situation will not change. The current PCN does not comply with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4 which is the main law that covers private parking. It doesn't comply for two reasons. 1. Section 9 [2][a] states  (2)The notice must— (a)specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates; The PCN states 47 minutes which are the arrival and departure times not the time you were actually parked. if you subtract the time you took to drive from the entrance. look for a parking place  park in it perhaps having to manoeuvre a couple of times to fit within the lines and unload the children reloading the children getting seat belts on  driving to the exit stopping for cars pedestrians on the way you may well find that the actual time you were parked was quite likely to be around ten minutes over the required time.  Motorists are allowed a MINIMUM of ten minutes Grace period [something that the rogues in the parking industry conveniently forget-the word minimum] . So it could be that you did not overstay. 2] Sectio9 [2][f]  (ii)the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver, the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Your PCN does not include the words in brackets and in 2a the Act included the word "must". Another fail. What those failures mean is that MET cannot transfer the liability to pay the charge from the driver to the keeper. Only the driver is now liable which is why we recommend our members not to appeal. It is so easy to reveal who was driving by saying "when I parked the car" than "when the driver parked the car".  As long as they don't know who was driving they have little chance of winning in court. This is partly because Courts do not accept that the driver and the keeper are the same person. And because anyone with a valid motor insurance policy is able to drive your cars. It is a shame that you are too far away to get photos of the car park signage. It is often poor and quite often the parking rogues lose in Court on their poor signage alone. I hope hat you can now relax and not panic about the PCN. You will receive many letters from Met, their unregulated debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors threatening you with ever higher amounts of money. The poor dears have never read the Act which states quite clearly that the maximum sum that can be charged is the amount on the signs. The Act has only been in force for 12 years so it may take a  few more years for the penny to drop.  You can safely ignore everything they send you unless or until they send you a Letter of Claim. Just come back to us if they do send one of those love letters to you and we will advise on a snotty letter to send them. In the meantime go on and enjoy your life. Continue reading other threads and if you do get any worrying letters let us know. 
    • Hopefully the ANPR cameras didn't pick up the two vehicles, but I don't think you're out of the woods just yet. MET's "work" consists of sending out hundreds of these invoices every week so yours might be a few days behind your partner's. There is also the matter of Royal Mail.  I once sold two second-hand books to someone on eBay.  Weirdly the cost of sending them separately was less than the cost of sending them in one parcel.  So to save a few bob I sent them seperately.  One turned up the next day.  One arrived after four days.  They were  sent from the same post office at the same time! But let's hope I'm being too pessimistic. Please update us of any developments.
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hi, im a new user,

 

i recieved a letter today from mh stating...

 

we are attemting to contact the above named person regarding a personal matter.

 

we have been provided your address as being the possible residential details for our subject..

 

therefore if you are the person named above, then please contact our office IMMEDIATELY on telephone number 01563 554782 quoting reference number ......... where upon further detailed information can be provided.

 

if however yor are not the person named above and/or have any information regarding the persons possible whereabouts, then please contact our investigation team in confidence on the alternative number or email address below

 

 

subject not known / goneaway 01563 554 784

[email protected] .uk

 

 

 

we look forward to hearing from you as soon as possible

 

yours sincerely

 

chris fox

 

1. the address they have is my fathers address, which is the address i reside at..

2. the name they have is correct...

3. i might have a few unpaid debts but they from about 5-6 years ago but they not with mh. its been so longthat ive forgotten who i owe the money to... i havnt recieved a letter from any sort of debt collecting agency in the last five years...

 

i would appreciate it if someone told me what to do.... thank you very much

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Do not, I repeat do not, phone them, unless you want an earfull of abuse.

 

Write back saying that you do not acknowledge any debt to your company or client's

 

I would suspect that M/H have bought your alledged debts and are now going to try to hound you into paying, probably for more than you can afford.

 

I'm sure someone will be along shortly to advise on a longer term strategy if needed.

Tip us a wink on my scales if you think I may have helped at all;)

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As said, they are just fishing. I would be inclined to ignore it for now. If they were that sure of who/where you were, you would have had a proper nastigram from them.

 

If you get any real grief, start a thread over in the Debt forum... I suspect that they are trying to make contact because the debt is close to being statute-barred (6 years).... unless you re-acknowledge it in writing, that is. So, before you do anything at all, post up for further advice FIRST !!

 

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I have also recieved a letter, it sounded exciting like there was something in it for me. I tried to call them, no answer and then I checked the web and seen what they were about. Have n't heard anything since. Will let you know if I do.

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I have also received one of these letters......

 

As been previously explained, Mac Hall are on a fishing expedition....

 

Just to explain, the only debt that I could recall was statute barred at least 12 years ago.

 

The only exception to this was where I recently challenged an alleged debt on behalf of my partner, even then this was from about 8 years ago.

 

maybe mac hall are keeping unlawfull records of those who act Ad Persona, for their relatives..???

 

 

I think a Subject Accsess Request is on the cards... could be interesting ???

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Hi,

 

I would advice you to ignore these bunch of COWBOYS. They also sent me a copy of their template letter back in nov 2007 which I threw in the bin. (recyling bin of course).

Since then this debt (satatue`s barred) has been passed to 5 other DCA`S all using the same tactic`s.

DO NOT acknowledge this DEBT otherwise you will start the ball rolling all over again, if you have not heard from anyone regarding any of your debts for 6yrs or more then their is nothing they can do.

The DCA`S will keep writing to you and when they have no success they will then sell the debt onto another DCA, hence my 5 DCA`S.

The reason they keep trying is they have paid peanuts for the debt in the hope that they will get someone who does not know they can not in force the debt to be paid and will end up paying them.

 

Not 1 of the 5 DCA`s has taken me to court or sent balliff`s to my door for the money because they know what I already know they can`t do sweet FA.

 

Also take a look at the Debt Forum on this site where you will find lots of help, advice and information about DCA`S and how to deal with them.

 

Good Luck and DO NOT let them SCARE you into PAYING.........!

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  • 4 months later...

hiya, nov 07 i was contacted by a company who sent me we ned to contact you letter, i fel for it was told i owed £3500, i told them i didnt recognize the debt i heard nothing,then a cabot company tried the same thing, but they said i owed £4200, i told them i didnt recognize the debt, and that i needed the original agreement and and proof of payments , many months later i get a offer if i pay half of the amount that would be the end of it, i sent a reg letter saying how can i pay something i dont owe, well surprise surprise, i get a leter now from mh last nov saying the same that they need to talk to me, i ignored that and i have just now received another mh leter saying that i owe £4900 and that their clients cabot wil except £50 pm for 123 months or else.

i thrown the leter away, should i innore any future leters from them even if they threaten court or baylifs, or should i write staing the same thing as before, the so called debt has risen by£1400.

carbot said it was for a barclay card from 97 and that i had paid in 2002 but i disagree

cheers

gary

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Interesting to read forum. Message on my phone (01.04.09) asking me to contact Monica at MacKenzie Hall on 01563, etc. urgently. The message did not refer to me by name and I'm also ex directory. Monica also suggested that I visit their website to acquaint myself with their business. I do not intend to return their call. I have no debt non-payments.

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Ive been hastled from them out of the blue over the last week. I dont owe anyone any money other than my mortgage. They have all my details, which is scary, except they dont know my name!! but keep on sending me these please contact me urgently messages.

Cant they check the voters register??

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W*****s

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Mackenzie Hall are well known for chasing debts that are statute barred, i.e. debts where a payment has not been paid for at least 6 years (5 years in Scotland) or acknowledged in a recorded form (such as writing)....I'd always recommend sending out this letter by recorded delivery... - http://www.consumerforums.com/resources/templates-library/86-debt-collectors/599-letter-sent-when-debt-is-statute-barred

 

Once you state that you have no intention of paying towards a debt that is staute barred they cannot continue to contact you as it could be construed as harrassment agains the OFT's guidelines on debt collection - Mackenzie Hall were recently slapped by the OFT and had restrictions placed on them - The Office of Fair Trading: OFT imposes requirements on Mackenzie Hall to improve handling of disputed debts and if you do have a complaint then you must report this to the OFT...

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