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Have more important things to think of then this bunch of idiots...my lovely mum lost her fight against cancer yesterday, may she rest in peace x

 

Sorry to hear about this DM.

 

It will be the usual generated rubbish letter BOS send out. Just file under bin.

 

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deffo file under bin.

 

DM i am sorry to hear about your mum. My grandad is currently having issues with cancer and has had for the past 4 years.

 

If you need someone to moan at let me know as i will be there to listen 4 you.

 

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Hi - I've updated my thread with the results of my own CCA issues against Sainsburys. No luck for me I'm afraid. I hope you have more luck than I've had!

Bank and credit card reclaims - £9,806

Sainsburys CCA non-compliance with FOS;

Natwest reclaim of £340 in progress;

Egg credit card reclaim in progress

 

 

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Ok, now I have a moral dilema, I've been making token payments to Sainsburys since last April, despite them only producing a copy application form and current T&C's in response to my CCA request. It got as far as Blair Oliver & Scott, who i've just ignored as they are a bunch of muppets.

 

Anyway, I have a default on my credit file for this account...now my moral dilema.... do I continue paying them the token payment each month or should I stop paying and hope that in 6 years it becomes statute barred? Had a stopped payments last year I would only have 5 years to wait now :D

 

My thinking is why should I be making them payments if they can't be bothered to produce the correct documentation, but by making token payments I'm keeping them off my back, i've not heard from them for months now (thats tempting fate now, i'll probably get a letter tomorrow!)

 

So....to pay or not to pay, that is the question?

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I would say stop payments as the tokens are not really getting you anywhere.

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I think I may cancel my standing order, Sainsburys are no longer adding interest and charges so the payments do make a small difference to the balance but no really enough to make any impact. This is quite a large debt and I do worry about the possibility of court and charging orders etc. Its taking the step to stop paying that i'm finding difficult. With my Goldfish account as soon as it was transferred to a DCA I stopped payments but I think because the Sainsbury's debt is still in house they are more likely to take action, of course I might be wrong!

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No sooner do I update this thread than I get a letter from Blair Oliver & Stupid, the same letter they sent me at the beginning of December saying my repayment arrangement is now due for renewal....eerrm no its not, I don't have a repayment programe. They state they note payments have been maintained in line with the existing agreement (which doesn't exist)!

 

I should contact their collections specialists (aka muppets) with details of my income and expenditure...yea right, like i'm going to do that then!

 

Oh how they make me laugh :D I ignored their previous letter and I shall ignore this one however I may well send them something along the lines of "hello, I am still waiting for a copy of my credit agreement which I requested 18 months ago and until I get it you can sod off"

 

I know this is obviously a computer generated letter but I do wish if they send letters they would at least get their facts right!

 

I think if I cease payments now I will be making a whole lot more trouble for myself so will keep the token payments going for the time being at least while I wait and see what they do next!

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Remember DM Sainsburys went all the way with me issued Courts papers then bottled it and wrote of over £10K.

 

They only had an application form.

 

They have defaulted me but as I have several other ones I am not to bothered.

 

I know when the defaults that I have no chance of removing drop of I will go about removing the Sainsburys one.

 

Bottom Line is I never want credit again!!!!

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We had a sainsburys loan and credit card, both were transferred to the muppets (ie Blair, Oliver & Scott), we were paing them an agreed sum, which we defaulted on and then ignored them - we now have 2 CCJ's which they got through really quickly within 6 weeks of the missed payments:mad:

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JNJL, did you CCA them? I sent a CCA reques to Sainsburys bank ages ago and all they have sent me is an application form and a current set of T&C's, rather like HAK in his post above. However I know its an application form and i've told them and Blair Oliver & Stupid so, that they haven't, as yet taken me to court for a debt of over £8K leads me to believe they know they probably wouldn't win. My credit limit was £7,600 so the remainder of the oustanding balance is interest and charges which should have ceased as soon as the account was in dispute following their inability to provide a copy of my CCA agreement.

 

I guess I'll probably continue with the token payments for now to keep them off my back and the balance is falling, albeit very very slowly!

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U can appeal the ccjs.

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Well three months since my last letter from Blair Oliver & Stupid, and another one pops through the door today...am I surprised that it is identical to the ones I received in December and March, telling me my repayment plan (which I don't actually have!) is up for review and could I make sure I have details of my income and expenditure to hand when I call them....haha yea right course I'm going to ring you...not! I will ignore it as I have the last two and continue to make my token payments, wonder if I'll receive the same letter in September? If I do I suspect it will pop through the door as I am enjoying my well earned cruise around the Med...if one is waiting for me on my return, I shall just ignore it again :)

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lol Nice idea. Maybe u should remind them of the cca.

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'cos I have 4 sainsbury's agreements to sort for my family.

 

Funny thing is, some of them are nowhere near the same in

design yet they were all taken out around the same time...

July through November 2004.

 

Tesco, Mint, MBNA even Barclay's, oh and Goldfish seem

relatively simple to analyse, but NOT Sainsbury's.

 

Seems that bloody grocer knew what he was at.

 

The more I read about them the more suspiscious I get.

 

Perhaps we need a separate subject area for them.

 

charlie*

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'cos I have 4 sainsbury's agreements to sort for my family.

 

Funny thing is, some of them are nowhere near the same in

design yet they were all taken out around the same time...

July through November 2004.

 

Tesco, Mint, MBNA even Barclay's, oh and Goldfish seem

relatively simple to analyse, but NOT Sainsbury's.

 

Seems that bloody grocer knew what he was at.

 

The more I read about them the more suspiscious I get.

 

Perhaps we need a separate subject area for them.

 

charlie*

 

 

i totlly agree

 

same with my brother

2005 agreement

not seen any like it on the forum

 

i suspect its made up by blair oliver and scott

 

any chance you can pm me the agreement minus personel details

 

appologise for the hijack but seems important and relevent

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I only got an application form, which they say is a CCA :rolleyes: however it is clearly an application form.

 

GM - I know I should remind them of the CCA, but while they are quiet I just leave them to send me out the same letter every 3 months...if they up the ante I will kindly remind them that I am still waiting for my copy agreement :)

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Received the usual 3 monthly reminder that my agreement is up for review today...they must realise I'm off on holiday soon and wanted to make sure I received it before I went...ah well..another one to be filed under N for no chance .. await the next one which by my reckoning should be here in December! I will continue with my token payments for the time being, but am seriously thinking of stopping them once I return from holiday, just to see what they do!

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I would have stopped them MONTHS ago.

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GM - I know I should stop them...but I'm a little afraid too..they have provided a copy application form which they say is a CCA, and which i say is an application form, but this is quite a large debt and I think they would have no hesitation in taking me to court for it, which is why I'm still making token payments...its just being brave enough to take that first step!

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well i have had a piece of paper with t&cs and a box for me to given my name addresss signature etc told that is a enforcable cca. Also c1 tried to tell loads of ppl a set of t&cs and application forms or mail drops are enforcable.

 

Bite the bullet.

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Time for an update...I had been paying Sainsbury's Bank £x per month for a couple of years now, interest and charges had ceased and a default is showing on my credit file. Today I received a letter from Cabot :( with an alleged notice of assignment. The letter states my existing payment arrangment with Sainsburys must now be paid to them...yea right! I've immediately cancelled said direct debit and have no intention of paying Cabot any pennies!

 

I sent a CCA to Sainsburys almost 3 years ago..they provided a copy of application form and a load of T&C's from various dates. I had ongoing discussions with them that they did not provide the correct documentation, they obviously stated that they had. The agreement they have sent does show a credit limit, my signature and their signature, BUT NO APR OR INTEREST RATES.

 

So..what do I do..do I now send a CCA to Cabot, or should I advise them that I sent a CCA to Sainsburys 3 years ago and as they have not provided the correct documentation the account is in dispute and should not have been sold to Cabot?

 

My thinking is that if Sainsburys thought they had the proper documentation in place they would have instigated court proceedings, as the debt is over £8K, that they have sold it off to Cabot makes me think they know it is unforceable.

 

Any help would be much appreciated. I have had dealing with Cabot before over an old goldfish account which they could not provide an agreement for, so know how persistant they can be.

 

I presume that as there is already a default showing from Sainsburys, Cabot cannot amend the date or add another one?

 

I will try and get the agreement(?) and T&C's scanned and posted up over the weekend.

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Hope this works! Copy of CCA/application/agreement from Sainsburys.

 

http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx143/DuffersMum/Sainsburys/003-1.jpg

 

Nothing on the back, they sent seperate T&C's which were downloaded by the looks of it, I will add these tomorrow.

 

Any thoughts on whether enforceable would be much appreciated.

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The following is a link to my thread about Sainsbury's Bank, for some reason its in the General Debt Section and it should really be under DCA's now.

 

Advice Please - Sainsburys Bank - Page 12 - The Consumer Forums

 

Briefly was paying Sainsbury's token £x per month for the past couple of years, I sent a CCA, they sent what I think is an application form, they says its an agreement. I've just managed to get a copy of what they sent loaded up via photobucket:-

 

Link removed...prying eyes from guests might give them clues to my identity, thank you to all who have given their opinions, will post up link again at some point in the future, if required.

 

 

This account has now been bought by Cabot :( who i've had dealings with in the past with an old goldfish account which they couldn't provide a CCA on.

 

My question on my original thread was do I just advise Cabot that I sent a CCA to Sainsburys and its still outstanding so account is in dispute, or should I actually CCA Cabot now?

 

Many thanks :)

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