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The claim includes statutory interest under S.69 of the County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of the issue of these proceedings in the sum of £49.15 The Claimant claims the sum of £972 What is the total value of the claim? £1112 Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? I dont know the details of the PAPDC to know if it was pursuant to paragraph 3, but I did receive a Letter of Claim with a questionaire/form to fill. Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? no Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Assigned/purchaser Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? I was aware, I'm not certain I received a 'Notice of Assignment' from Capital One but may have been informed the account had been sold without such a title on the letter? Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Yes Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Not since the debt purchase, and not from Capital One. Why did you cease payments? I can't remember - it was the tail end of the pandemic and I may not have had enough income to keep up payments - I am self-employed and work in the event industry - at that time. I also had a bank account that didn't allow direct debits and may have just forgotten payments and became annoyed at fines for late payments. What was the date of your last payment? Appears to be 20/4/2022 Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No Here is my Defence: Defence - 1. The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are vague and generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. I have in the past had an agreement with Capital One but do not recognise this specific account number or recollect any outstanding debt and have therefore requested clarification by way of a CPR 31.14 and section 78 request.. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. I am unaware of having been served with a Default Notice pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. I am unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment pursuant to the Law and Property Act 1925 Section 136(1) 5. The Defendant has sent a request by way of a section 78 pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974, for a copy of the agreement, the Claimant has yet to comply and remains in default of said request. 6. A further request has been made via CPR 31.14 to the Claimants solicitor, requesting disclosure of documents on which the Claimant is basing their claim. The Claimant has not complied and to date nothing has been received. 7. It is therefore not accepted with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant and the Claimant is put to strict proof to: a) show how the Defendant has entered into an agreement and; b) show how the Claimant has reached the amount claimed for and; c) show the nature of the breach and evidence by way of a Default Notice pursuant to sec 88 CCA1974 d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim 8. As per Civil Procedure 16.5 it is expected that the claimants prove the allegation that the money is owed 9. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of section 136 of the Law of Property Act and section 82A of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 10. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief. .................. Please note that I had to write a defence quite quickly as I hit the deadline. At the time of writing the defence, I hadn't been able to find correspondence from Capital One, but had since found default letter etc. I submitted CCA request and CPR 31.14. However, I didn't get any proof of postage or use registered post for the CPR (an oversight) but did with the CCA request. I received a pack which included a letter from Overdales, going over the defence I'd filed, as well as letters of Lowells and reprints of letters from Capital One. But I have no idea if this pack is in response to the CCA request or the CPR ! I would have expected two separate responses ... although I do know they are both the same company. Looking over the pack today, and looking through old emails .. I find some discrepancies in the Capital One default letters (notice of default and Claim of default). They are both dated *before* an email I have stating that a default can be avoided. The one single page of agreement sent (so not the full agreement) has a 16 digit number at the top in small print, next to 'Capital One' which corresponds to a number called 'PURN' printed at the top of each of the 10 pages of ins and outs of the account (they're not official statements, but a list of monthly goings) yet no mention anywhere on either of the account number. I cant really scan them at the moment - I can later tomorrow, but that will be after the mediation call I'm sure. I guess I may be on my own for this mediation ... I am not certain the CCA request has been satisfied .. or if the CPR has been . And then I appear to have evidence that the Default notices provided are fabricated ? Yet, I do have (elsewhere ... not at home) Default letters from Capital One I can check ..
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Youre welcome Jeanette

I want you to be informed well read and a winner. :)

"I am more than prepared to repay any money I have borrowed, IF they are prepared to refund any money THEIR agreement doesnt allow them to charge me." Tamadus

 

Thanks couldnt put it better myself :D

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Hi there, I have just heard fron teesside courts and they have put a stay on my claim ( hearing 11th October) but only until outcome of test case and appeal or 31st October 2008 , whichever is sooner. So they must be expecting a fairly quick verdict on this test case. I am stuck with my latest court directions, they read ( to me anyway) that I have to lodge an objection to the stay or they will dismiss my case...:eek: Good luck with your case...

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mine read the same mate so i put in an application for the stay to be lifted an was told by the clerk that it would be heard in 5 working days hahaha right o so to me we pay out for a pointless application or they dismiss our claim but they have no intension of doing it but it might get rid of a few cases if people dont apply its how it looks to me anyway good luck to you to

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Hi, I sent a PM to Michael Browne who was very helpful with my directions. I'm not going to waste any more money on applying for the stay to be lifted. But I do have to apply for the stay to be lifted before the end of October next year or until the outcome of the test case( whichever is sooner) so I thought I can wait til next year as they don't seem to be in any hurry to lift any stays. I did send an objection to the application of a stay to the judge prior to one been granted which did no good anyway.

Revenge is a dish best served cold.......

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well guys ive just got in the post this morning a date for the hearing to remove the stay,13 NOV at 12.10 teeside combined courts.

 

it reads;

 

the hearing of this case will take place by the way of a telephone conference.

 

the defendants legal representative is ordered to arrange the telephone conference.

 

please quote telephone number ************ when arranging your telephone conference.

 

time estimate for hearing must be accurate as they will not be allowed to over-run. in the event that a time estimate is insufficient then please contact the court. please note that time has been allocated for the judge to read all papers in advance of the hearing.

 

the applicant and respondants(s) must serve all documents to be relied upon at the hearing no later than 4.00pm 2 days before the hearing.

 

please mark all documents served upon the court for this hearing as telephone conference on the (date) an (time).

 

well chaps am not sure what to think at the moment dont know if im getting somewhere or not an not sure what im to do either so any thoughts on it or advice would be great nerves are kicking in a bit ill admit cheers in advance

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an just a thought rabble i know its frustrating an its seemss as if we are just chucking money away for nowt at the moment but i would put in an application to remove your stay now as collectively if everyone does it inundates the courts with them an shows that we will not go away they are relying on people not doing it to lighten the load on the courts dont let them shove you under the carpet dont give up ......we are not going away!!!!

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Hi CONALOT,

Junkimunki ere again, have just come back from bank with my son who had applied for a loan, but he has been told that there is a black mark against his name, guess where it is from, yes you have guessed correct it is from the YB, the reason for this is that he cancelled his account in march 07, and transferred to another bank , but his direct debits that were being taken out of the bank was not cancelled by the YB, and they let them apply to collect but should not have let them apply .

 

The Company that went in to collect paid the £35 back to my son but said the other moneyies cosisiting of £8 per day that had accrued should come from the banks direct debit indemnity scheme, but after contacting the YB by way of letters they refused to cancel these charges of £8 per day and because I told them they had more CHANCE of Having a baby than me handing the money over they sent it to their debt collector/ solicitor who have wrote to me and I told them the same ""go row a boat without the oars" , but the balance is now £800 + when they sent it to their solicitor, and this has now resulted in the black mark against his credit scoring .

 

This is gonna cost em money as it was their own fault and I did try and solve it by writing to them personally and explaining the situation but all they were thinking of was lining their own pockets as usual .

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my husband had an account with YB for years always keep in good order never overdrawn had loans never for large amounts only £1000 at most paid all on the nail but his firm went into liquidation an he had to use the insurance on the loan to pay the remaining payments. he went for a loan a few years later when he was back in employment an had been for a while an was turned down due to him using his insurance to pay off the previous loan he had. Insurance on the loan was YBs own for the loan given to him by them!!! is it me or is that wrong????

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Zoot is working on a bundle for removing a stay here. Keep an eye out for any updates, but I'm sure it will help your application. http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/bank-templates-library/114505-bundle-stay-hearing.html#post1134427

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Go get 'em girl! lol

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Sorry Jeanette, if you read my thread you will see the update on my case, hope you have still got some nails left...lol, I didn't know that I was getting posts!!! By the way if it helps I am a qualified nail technician, can "run" a few up for you...lol

Reclaiming £2200 from Yorkshire Bank 5.2.07

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that is good to know my acrylics are buggered at min lol im gutted for you mate i have a hearing in november am going all out to do what i can fingers crossed it does seem as if the courts are on the side of banks an sod the ordinary folk but they should underestimate the power of the ordinary folk big mistake on there part (i hope)

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Just cos it went wrong for me, doesn't mean it will be the same for everyone, I really will keep everything crossed for you, sounds like you need it to keep the tootsies in tip top condition......lol...I think at some point in the future we will get something back. question is just how much??

Reclaiming £2200 from Yorkshire Bank 5.2.07

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