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    • in order for us to help you we require the following information:- Which Court have you received the claim from ? Canterbury If possible please scan redact and upload a full page copy of page 1 of the claim form. ( Name of the Claimant ? Moneybarn No 1   How many defendant's  joint or self ? One Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to. 29/05/24 Acknowledged by 14/06/24  Defence by 29/06/24  Particulars of Claim PARTICULARS OF CLAIM   1.  By a Conditional Sale Agreement in writing made on 25th August 2022. Between the Claimant and Defendant, the Claimant let to the Defendant on Conditional Sale. A Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi (200 P S) 4x4 Wildtrack  Double Cab Pickup 3200cc (Sep.2015) Registration No, ******* Chassis number ***************** (“The Vehicle”).  A copy of the agreement is attached   2.  The price of the goods was £15,995.00.  The Initial Rental was £8500.00.  The total charge for credit was £3575.;17 And the balance of £11,070.17 was payable by 59 equal consecutive monthly instalments of £187 63. payable on the 25th of each month.   3.  The following were expressed conditions of the set agreement,   Clause 8: Our Right to End this Agreement  8.1   Subject to sending you the notice as required by law, any of the following events will entitle us to end this Agreement: 8.1.2  You fail to pay the advance payment (if any) or any of the payments as specified on the front page of this agreement or any other sum payable under this Agreement. 8.1.3 If any of the information you have given us before entering into this Agreement or during the term of this Agreement was false 8.1.4 We consider, acting reasonably, that the goods may be in jeopardy or that our rights in the goods may otherwise be prejudiced. 8.1.5 If you die 8.1.6 If a bankruptcy petition is presented against you; if you petition for your own bankruptcy, or make a live arrangement with your creditors or call a meeting of them. 8. 1.7 If in Scotland, you become insolvent or sequestration or a receiver, judicial factor or trustee to be appointed over any of your estate, or effects or suffer an arrestment, charge attachment or other diligence to be issued or levied on any of your estate or effects or suffer any exercise, or threatened exercise of landlords hype hypothec 8.1.8 If you are a partnership, you are dissolved 8.1.9 If the goods are destroyed, lost, stolen and/or treated by the insurer as a total loss in response to an insurance claim. 8.1.10 If we reasonably believe any payment made to us in respect of this Agreement is a proceed of crime. 8.1.11 If steps are taken by us to terminate any other agreement which you have entered into with us.   Clause 9.  Effect of Us Terminating Agreement   9.1 If this Agreement terminates under clause 8 the following will apply 9.1.1 Subject to the rights given to you by law, you will no longer be entitled to possession of the goods and must return them to us to an address as we may reasonably specify, (removing or commencing the removal of any cherished plates) together with a V5 registration certificate, both sets of keys and a service record book. If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate   4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:-   a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement number 756050. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     Thw total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by Firrst class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges ]= 5.  A the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or  alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage.   Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs.   Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024   What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg
    • Now that is an interesting article which adds afew perspective that I hadn't thought significant - but on reflection of the perspectives offered ... Now Starmer is no Blair, however 'blairite he may be perceived, but the Tories aren't tories and aren't even remotely liberal   The fast 'unannounced and unexpected election call from sunack may well be explained by the opinion linked that he hoped reform would be unprepared and effectively call a chunk of Farages largely empty bluster - making him look even more of a prat, leave scope for attacks on shabby reform candidates and mimimise core vote losses to reform - while throwing the 'middle ground' (relative) tories TO THE DOGS - and with the added bonus of likely pacifying his missu' desire to jogg off to sunny cal tout suite somewhat   thumb in the air - I expect about 140ish tory seats, but can hope for under a hundred Reform - got to admit the outside possibility of 1, maybe 2 seats with about 8% of the vote - but unlikely. I think projections of over 10% of the vote for reform is nudged and paid for speculation - but possible with the expected massive drives from Russian, Chinese and far right social media bot and troll prods targeting the gullible.
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    • Even a Piers Morgan is an improvement and a gutless Farage Piers Morgan calls for second Brexit referendum WWW.THELONDONECONOMIC.COM Piers Morgan and Nigel Farage have faced off over Brexit and a second referendum in a heated reunion on BBC Question Time.   “Why don’t we have another referendum about Brexit?” he questioned. “I seem to remember when 2016 came around we were told there was going to be control of our borders and it was going to be economically beneficial to this country. And eight years later we have lost complete control of our borders… and economically it seems to have been a wilful act of self-harm.”   ... Piers missed off : after all somebody said a 48/52 decision would be "unfinished business" by a long way - was that person just bul lying (again)  
    • when did they (who) inform you there was a 'police case' and when was this attained? i will guess the debt is now SB'd as it's UAE 15yrs. have you informed the bsnk ever by email/letter of your correct and current address? you can always ignore anyone else accept the bank,  Block and bounce back all emails. Block any text messages  Ignore any letters unless it's: - a Statutory Demand - a Letter Of Claim - a Court Claimform via Northants bulk.  
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I've been reading these boards for awhile and picking up loads of great tips and advice regarding claiming back unfair bank charges and have decided to start a new thread to track my own progress.

Steps taken so far:

10.03.06 Sent DPA letter and received statements about 3 days later (no charge)

20.03.06 Sent preliminary request for repayment of charges £345 + overdraft interest.

23.03.06 Received standard response saying they won't pay back charges, must keep account in line etc....

03.04.06 Posted letter before action recorded delivery to Recovery Services department who sent me the standard letter and copied in my branch.

05.04.06 Received second letter from Lloyds refusing again to repay charges which states:

 

"Unfortunately, I am unable to add any further information to my letter dated 22nd March 2006, although I do respect your opinion about our charges.

 

This letter is the banks final response, which means that if you remain dissatisfied you may now refer your complain to the Financial Ombudsman Service."

 

I am going to file my claim just need to know from others who have already done this process whether I wait 14 days from my last letter now that I have received the response or can I make the claim immediately following their refusal?

 

I just want to make sure I follow every step correctly so that I don't get tripped up later down the line.

 

Any advice much appreciated!!

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I asked the same question.

 

If that is their response and they have stated they have nothing to add, then they have made their position clear, so no need to wait 14 days.

 

You are giving them in effect upto 14 days, and they choosen to repond sooner, put the claim in.

 

Good luck, I've just put in my LBA, so I hope they repond to mine as quickly as they did yours and don't forget to add the 8% interest as well.

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I've got a claim going against nationwide as well, and you do keep wondering if your the one they'll go to court with, but you just need to keep reading the forum and posting your progress, people are very supportive and helpful.

 

At the end of the day it's your £400.

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I've been reading these boards for awhile and picking up loads of great tips and advice regarding claiming back unfair bank charges and have decided to start a new thread to track my own progress.

Steps taken so far:

10.03.06 Sent DPA letter and received statements about 3 days later (no charge)

20.03.06 Sent preliminary request for repayment of charges £345 + overdraft interest.

23.03.06 Received standard response saying they won't pay back charges, must keep account in line etc....

03.04.06 Posted letter before action recorded delivery to Recovery Services department who sent me the standard letter and copied in my branch.

05.04.06 Received second letter from Lloyds refusing again to repay charges which states:

 

"Unfortunately, I am unable to add any further information to my letter dated 22nd March 2006, although I do respect your opinion about our charges.

 

This letter is the banks final response, which means that if you remain dissatisfied you may now refer your complain to the Financial Ombudsman Service."

 

I am going to file my claim just need to know from others who have already done this process whether I wait 14 days from my last letter now that I have received the response or can I make the claim immediately following their refusal?

 

I just want to make sure I follow every step correctly so that I don't get tripped up later down the line.

 

Any advice much appreciated!!

 

Hi

have you had replies from your branch ?

 

Krystyna

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I initially wrote to my branch and they forwarded my request to Mandy Horton in the Birmingham Recovery Sercives department. They only wrote to me a standard letter to say that my letter was being dealt with by another department. I haven't heard anything from my Branch since.

I'm going to complete my claim today so will keep you all posted.

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Okay claim is now filed for a total of £460.34 including the £50 court fees

Roll on 14 days....

It will be great if they don't reply to my claim but I have a strong feeling that they will. Right I'm going back to reading up on the What next section of the Hmcourts website!!

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Hi miss_angie1

 

At least you got one reply albeit the standard one.I posted my claim to the court,just phoned them now it will be served on Monday.The girl at the court said they were very busy, I can see why lol.All steam ahead now.Good luck with yours keep us informed with the good news.

 

Best wishes

 

Krystyna

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Claim Number 6QZ22841

Quick update I recieved my Notice of Issue from moneyclaim today which states that Lloyds will be served on the 12th April and that they have until 26th April to reply so watch this space... I will let you know if and when I hear more from Lloyds soon!!!

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Fortune favours the brave Angie.. keep us informed..

"BA Group. The World's favourite CA Group"

 

HSBC 2 claims amalgamated. £1195. settled in full prior to filing claim.

BARCLAYS settled in full 2 days prior to submission of defence by Barclays

CAP ONE settled in full on day 14 of LBA (£210)

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I'm about to start the process of claiming back my charges with Lloyds as well.

 

Good Luck.

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=4190 - Rjh v Lloyds Tsb.

Dpa Sent (13/04/06).

Statements Recevied (04/05/06).

Preliminary Letter Sent £775 owed! (12/05/06).

Received Standard Reply from Lloyds. (17/05/06).

Posted LBA (31/05/06).

Received Lloyds "Final Response" Letter (03/06/06).

Filed Claim with Moneyclaim for £775+£192.19 interest. (21/07/06)

Lloyds defend claim (23/08/06)

**Lloyds pay up, at last. £1078 (14/11/06)**

 

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Claim Number 6QZ22841

Quick update I recieved my Notice of Issue from moneyclaim today which states that Lloyds will be served on the 12th April and that they have until 26th April to reply so watch this space... I will let you know if and when I hear more from Lloyds soon!!!

Looks as though we're on exactly the same time scale Angie. I got a letter yesterday with the same dates on. Wouldn't it be wierd if we ended up at the same court.

 

All the best. Let's get our money back.

 

HD

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Thanks for all of your support guys. Have you got a thread going too HD? I will keep track of yours too as we should hopefully get the same FAVOURABLE response for our claims at the same time!!

See you've found it:D

I'm expecting it to be on the steps of the court. We should hear what they intend to do soon.:D

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Quick update - I have received a Notice that Acknowledment of Service for my claim has been filed. It states that Lloyds intends to defend all of the claim. They now have 28 days from the 13.04.06 to file a defence so watch this space....

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The way I understand it, you should shortly recieve a Court Allocation Questionnaire, and as outlined in the FAQ:

 

Fill this in (very simple and very quick) and return it to the court (you must do so within 7 days of receiving it). Pay any additional fees (mentioned earlier) at this point. Send a photocopy of the questionnaire to the bank - it is debatable whether you need to do this or not, but it's better to be safe than sorry over the price of a stamp.

 

The FAQ goes on to suggest that the Bank will more likely than not fold before they actually come to defend their case. However, the court will then set a date. You're best off reading through the related threads here.

 

Hope this helps some!

reload vs Lloyds - £2703.11 Settlement Reached 14/07/06.

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reload's mum vs Barclays - £745 owed. £375 partial settlement reached 17/10/06.

Lloyds Bank - The Template Response Letters!

 

Advice & opinions of reload are offered informally, without prejudice and without liability. Please use your own judgment. Seek advice of a qualified insured professional if you have any doubts.

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Okay I've received my Court Allocation Questionnaire which has to be returned by 27.05.06. Must admit getting a bit nervous now but am still prepared to take it the whole way. I am seriously out of my comfort zone now. eek!!!

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Chin up Angie, just keep it in mind, you are in the right, the banks are not !!

Data Protection Act Request sent 22nd April 2006 (recorded delivery) to Penny Berryman 40 days up on 1st June 2006.

 

Statements recieved 5th May 2006

Claiming back = £3913.65

 

Preliminary Letter Sent 5th May (recorded delivery) to Customer Care, Birmingham. Told me to sod off on the 9th May

 

Letter Before Action Sent 9th May (recorded delivery) to Customer Care, Birmingham. Told me to sod off on the 12th May

 

Moneyclaim filed issued 6th June (14 days to reply) Time up on 20th June.

 

Acknowledged 15th June (28 days to defence)

Time up on 13th July.

 

Defence Recieved 7th July

 

Going Before the Judge 15th September

 

Court Date 5th December

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