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Sorry, I expressed myself badly. Most people who come here are willing to go to court, but would prefer not to if at all possible. We have a tiny minority who are terrified of court, even though we point out that a civil court hearing is no more intimidating that a job interview. I was just pointing out that the more PCNs you get, the more money is in ir for the PPC, so the greater the chances of them doing court - which of course is damn obvious! However, what we tend to see in residential parking cases is that the PPCs are reluctant to start court claims because they know about Supremacy of Contract and they know their case is weak. But then when someone collects, say, five tickets, greed takes over and they rush off to court. So i just wanted to point out that that was likely to happen. Point taken that it is very hard to avoid getting their tickets. If you do end up in court in the end - which is probable - then the number of tickets will not affect the judge's decision. Either you have Supremacy of Contract or you don't.
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To be honest, the 1st time I noticed the £20 offer was in the pack I got by email
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By Badtimes123 · Posted
Righto. I will contact them, do I ask for the named solicitor? What do you think of stating: As a means to avoid further litigation, I would like to make the following offer of settlement: A Tomlin Order for £6500 (which is the amount they randomly mentioned at the start of mediation). Lump sum of £1500 and 96 months of £52ish In the meantime, should I submit a WS for this claim given the looming deadline? -
By LouLouDev79 · Posted
Thank you so much for all of your help, I will amend my WS as you suggested and get it sent off this afternoon. Then I guess I just have to sit and wait until the hearing and hope I get a sympathetic judge on the day! -
Then that would be a point to verbally introduce at the start of the hearing when asked to speak...then go into your statement.
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The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.
Frankly I don't think that is any accident.
One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.
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