Appeal Bundles - Civil Appeals - Parcel Delivery Firms

[jk2054]

Hello,

I'm wondering if someone can advise me on something.

I'm appealing an order and have been asked to submit an appeal bundle and the below points are required to be included:

1) transcript of the judgment of the lower court on other record of reasons. 

2) Statement of case.

I'm wondering if anyone knows that "on other record of reasons" means.

Also for statement of case would it just be a long document covering the reason for the claim, the findings of the lower court, why it was wrong and what I seek instead?

 

Thanks,

[honeybee13]

Hi.

I think we may need to know more about what has happened so far please, if you're able to tell us.

HB

[jk2054]

Its just a case against a parcel delivery firm where parcel lost and a judge didnt agree that they were liable for more then insurance ws.

 

However my question is more about what the wording on the points of the order says which I copied above

[AndyOrch]

Other case law relied upon

" On other record of reasons "

[jk2054]

Thank you.

 

Any idea on SOC

[AndyOrch]

Formal court documents setting out a party's case. They include claim form; particulars of claim; defence; reply to defence; Part 20 claims and further information under CPR Pt 18.

[jk2054]

thanks thats the sort of thing I was thinking

Edited May 4 by jk2054

[AndyOrch]

You will also be expected to submit a skeleton argument as part of your bundle.

[jk2054]

it doesnt say that anywhere but I did think so.

 

Ill pop up a draft if you can look over it?

[AndyOrch]

Certainly 

Are you seeking permission or has it been granted ?

 

 

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[jk2054]

I'm seeking permission.

I've attached the order here. 

The only slight issue is the Judge's handwriting for the original appeal is honestly near impossible to read. I've asked for the reasons in typed format but I'm awaiting a response.

 

D(0453153.SKAL) redacted.pdf

[AndyOrch]

Okay then yes it will require a Skeleton within your bundle.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/form-204-how-to-prepare-an-appeal-bundle-for-the-court-of-appeal

 

[jk2054]

Ok that says for court of appeal though and I've not received "a core bundle index".

Also as I'm not represented that form says I don't need to submit one. 

I'm guessing you think its a good thing to do as a matter of course?

[AndyOrch]

I would prepare one anyway 

[jk2054]

Thanks! Will do

[jk2054]

Hello,

 

Thoughts on this for the contents of the bundle Andy?

 

also looping in @BankFodder in case you have anything you think I should/shouldn't include

 

Thanks

Draft 1 D.(95284319.DSPS).pdf

[AndyOrch]

[jk2054]

Thanks,

I'm finishing up the skeleton and hope to have it done today.

Will look at statement of case too and get that done over the next few days.

[BankFodder]

Well I've had a look. As an index page I suppose it looks very smart but it really doesn't tell us anything. Also, we don't know anything about the case, what it's about and what you you are appealing about.

I don't think we can give any better advice than that it looks good so far.

Overall, I don't understand the need for secrecy

[jk2054]

There's not really any secrecy. A judge limited the amount I could recover to their free cover limit because I didn't buy their insurance for a parcel from ages ago.

I've been working on my skeleton and have nearly finished that.

@AndyOrch I'm wondering if you can give me some pointers for my statement of case because really It's the one thing I'm not too sure on. 

What things shoud/shouldnt be in it and what differentiates it from my POC/WX?