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    • Which Court have you received the claim from ? Civil National Business Centre, Northampton Name of the Claimant ? CA Auto Finance UK Limited How many defendant's  joint or self ? One (self) Date of issue –  02 May 2024 Particulars of Claim What is the claim for – Unpaid car loan 1. By an agreement in writing dated 26 November 2015 and made between the Claimant and the Defendant, the Claimant loaned the Defendant a sum of money. The agreement was Regulated. 2. The Defendant failed to make payment of the sums due and the Agreement was terminated by the Claimant. 3. On the 7 February 2019 the balance due from the Defendant was £8,196,38. The Defendant has paid £0.00.       THE CLAIMANT THEREFORE CLAIMS  1. £8,196,38 2. Contractual interest to the date hereof £0.00 3. Further interest at 10.70 per annum (£0.00) per day until judgement or sooner payment. 4. Costs to be assessed. CLAIMANTS CLAIM £8,196.38                                         What is the total value of the claim? £8751.38 Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Car Loan When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In Branch Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Creditor was FCA Automotive Services UK Limited Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? No and No Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Yes Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? No Why did you cease payments? Unaffordable What was the date of your last payment? Feb 28 2018 Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? Yes (irresponsible lending and they did not supply all documents when CCA sent. The Terms and Conditions they sent as part of the request were different to the original Ts and Cs. Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No    
    • Thank you. You contacted directly with the parcel broker so your best option is to proceed directly against them for breach of contract. I hope you have read enough to understand that you will not be able to rely on the Consumer Rights Act 2015. Do you understand why? Have Parcel to Go giving you a reason for declining reimbursement? Do you have anything in writing from your customer which shows that they did not refuse delivery and which identifies the actual circumstances of the situation?
    • Which Court have you received the claim from? CIVIL NATIONAL BUSINESS CENTRE, NORTHAMPTON Name of the Claimant? LOWELL PORTFOLIO LTD How many defendant's joint or self? SELF Date of issue – 03 MAY 2024 Particulars of Claim What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim?  1.THE CLAIM IS FOR THE SUM OF £6000 DUE TO THE DEFENDANT UNDER AN AGREEMENT REGULATED BY THE CONSUMER ACT 1974 FOR A LLOYDS BANKING GROUP PLC ACCOUNT WITH AN ACCOUNT REFERENCE OF (ACCOUNT NO. 16 DIGITS LONG). 2.THE DEFENDANT FAILED TO MAINTAIN CONTRACTUAL PAYMENTS REQUIRED BY THE AGREEMENT AND A DEFAULT NOTICE WAS SERVED UNDER S.87(1) OF THE CONSUMER ACT 1974 WHICH HAS NOT BEEN COMPLIED WITH. 3.THE DEBT WAS LEGALLY ASSIGNED TO THE CLAIMANT ON (DATE) NOVEEMBER 2016 NOTICE OF WHICH HAS BEEN GIVEN TO THE DEFENDANT. 4. THE CLAIM INCLUDES STATUORY INTEREST UNDER S.69 OF THE COUNTY COURTS ACT 1984 AT A RATE OF 8% PER ANNUM FOR THE DATE PF ASSIGNMENT TO THE DATE OF ISSUE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS IN THE SUM BE OF £0.00. THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS THE SUM OF £6000. What is the total value of the claim? £6500 Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? YES, NOTICES OF CLAIM.  Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? YES  Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? NO Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? CREDIT CARD When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007?  BEFORE  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post? I DONT RECALL Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? NO  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DEBT PURCHASER.  Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? THE FIRST I RECALL WAS A LETTER FROM LOWELL SAYING THEY NOW OWNED THE DEBT.  Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? NOT THAT I RECALL OR BEEN PROVIDED WITH THROUGH CCA REQUESTS.AT LAST REQUEST THEY SAID THEY WERE AWAITING THE DEFAULT NOTICE AND NO ACTION WOULD BE TAKEN UNTIL RESPONDED WHICH TO DATE I'VE NOT HAD OR SEEN.  Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ?  NO, I RECEIEVED LETTERS OF CLAIMS   Why did you cease payments?  i was under medical care which caused me not to work. around that time lowell had wanted me to increase my payments as it would take too long to clear the debt . i had been paying them what i was paying the bank. i explained my then health & financial position and that i was unable to do so. they put a hold on my account for a few months so i cancelled my direct debit. i made a full and final offer which was rejected. when they wanted payments to resume i explained i was in a worse financial position, still undertaking treatment and now unemployed so could not start payments as they wanted. after sending my financial spreadsheet they kept sending letters asking what i was going to do. i couldn’t see a way forward i felt stressed and under pressure so wrote that i would not be corresponding with them anymore. What was the date of your last payment? NOVEMBER / DECEMBER 2018   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? NO   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? I COMMUNICATED MY FINANCIAL PROBLEMS WITH THE CREDIT CARD COMPANY, WE MADE A MONTHLY PAYMENT AGREEMENT WHICH WAS KEPT FOR SEVERAL YEARS UNTIL DEBT WAS SOLD.  
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Hi everyone,  hope you had a good weekend. 

I fired off that letter of claim via recorded delivery and also sent a copy by email.

They've a habit of saying that royal mail doesn't deliver to them and emails are never received. 

So having both should make them more likely to be considered untrustworthy. 

With regards to the ET claim, my husband is meticulously going through all the evidence and classifying them point by point.

I couldn't do this myself,  I would surely miss something (a lot).

Haven't heard from ET regarding the employer request to postpone the hearing, so fingers crossed it stays as it is.

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If they do play silly beggars and claim they don't receive post someone (probably best not you - your husband maybe?) could go round to the premises and hand deliver it.  Leave at Reception? Take a photo of themselves handing it over and then write a brief statement to confirm they delivered it @ time/date.

 

Shouldn't be necessary because as advised earlier letters sent first class are deemed by law to be delivered two days later. But belt and braces etc.

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Hi everyone, on Friday evening I received an email from the now appointed legal representative of my employer. 

They're asking the tribunal for an extension of time based on their lie that they didn't receive anything about the case.

The smart lawyer packed the response with more lies, trying to mud the waters and make the tribunal think that we're out to make money.

2 massive lies are:

1. They asked for the case to be struck out because the case was reported over the 3 months time limit. This is a lie, it was reported a week before the 3 months expired.

2. They claim that there's no description of the claim in the ET1 form, but then they go on addressing every point of the case. How did they know about all the points I submitted if they didn't receive anything???

 

I don't know if it's a tactic or this solicitor can't read, but they've rebutted my points with nonsense. 

For example,  with regards to the annual leave restrictions they introduced and I clearly marked as being against TUPE rules, they said that there's no sex discrimination in a refusal to take leave. I didn't claim sex discrimination because of the annual leave matter. 

Another example, they claimed that I lied in a witness interview when I saw a manager making inappropriate comments to a colleague,  but this on appeal was found to be true because other people had heard it.

My husband said he will oppose the extension and address each one of their lies so the tribunal is aware.

As said, we have everything documented in writing. 

The only bit missing is the flexible working agreement but we discussed that.

My feeling is that they lied to their solicitor and hid the evidence, so the solicitor has only acted based on what he's been told. 

I can't think that a solicitor would blatantly lie to a tribunal knowing that we have the evidence to back up our case.

 

What are your thoughts please?

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One comment I would make is that there may be some "posturing" going on.

I experienced this prior to my other half's tribunal. 

Just attempts to intimidate you and get you to drop your case.

 

Would it be in your interest if there was an extension, in order for your SAR to gain traction and get the documents you need?

We could do with some help from you.

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In theory yes, but they won't disclose the documents,  otherwise they'll lose hands down.

They have a hope now that as I lost the piece of paper regarding the flexible working agreement,  they could fool the judge into thinking that I went to work whenever I wanted without being challenged for 5 years.

With that document they'll just kill their chances.

So I don't think they'll ever disclose that.

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Presuming you sent your Letter of Claim on 16 March, next Thursday will be day 14 and next Friday day 15 when you should start your county court claim.

 

It would be a good idea to post up a draft of your Particulars of Claim.

 

The PoCs just need to be a few lines, and there are examples in the other SAR threads you read which you can use as a starting point.

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Hi everyone,  I received a communication from the tribunal informing me that the time extension has been accepted and the hearing "is converted to a case management hearing to consider listing of final hearing and making case management orders."

 

Question: does this mean that I do not have to disclose all evidence yet? In their last communication they'd said that I had to disclose them 7 days before the full hearing.

 

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Hi everyone,  so I spoke to the tribunal helpline and they said I still need to submit the bundle for the preliminary hearing,  but they said they're not sure about it.

So I emailed them asking for the judge directions.

Then I received an email with a "preliminary hearing agenda" form to fill, but I need help with this please.

The other side solicitor also wrote to my husband directly saying that the bundle is not needed at this point, just the agenda.

So I guess that unless the solicitor is trying to trick us into going against the procedure (unlikely I suppose), the bundle will need to be submitted before the final hearing. 

Can you help with the agenda please?

(I blanked personal infos)

 

Also, the deadline for them to reply to the data protection claim is up tomorrow,  should I start a separate thread for this with the particulars of claim?

 

Thanks

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11 hours ago, Lorenz said:

Also, the deadline for them to reply to the data protection claim is up tomorrow,  should I start a separate thread for this with the particulars of claim?

No need just yet.

 

But please post up the PoCs when you have a moment.

 

It's important the claim is started the moment the 14 days are up to show them you're not joking.

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Thanks.

This is a draft of the particular of claim for the data breach. 

 

On 3rd October 2022 I submitted a subject access request pursuant to the Data Protection Act 2018.

The Defendants breached the statutory deadline of 30 days and failed to make a full disclosure and this failure is continuing six months later.

The defendant's breach of their statutory duty and my inability to access my personal data which I need for an Employment  Tribunal case against the defendant,  has caused me serious issues and distress.

The claimant seeks damages for distress in the sum of £200.

 

what do you think?

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Looks absolutely damn perfect to me.

 

If none of the other regulars disagree, file your claim tomorrow as soon as the 14 days are up.

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You don't need to provide a reason as to why you requested access to your personal data, in the same way that if someone was holding on to your car keys you wouldn't need to justify to them why you need access to your car.

It may be in your interest not to specify the reason you requested access to your data unless later questioned by the judge.

Of course you may have to justify what serious issues not having access to your data has caused you and that may be the point at which to explain your issue with the Employment Tribunal.

However for the quantum you seek I'm not entirely sure you need to have been caused any serious issues, it may be that a judge considers that the sum of £200 would be appropriate relief for the distress and frustration caused to you by the Defendant's failure to comply with their statutory obligations in accordance with an important European instrument.

 

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On 3rd October 2022 I submitted a subject access request pursuant to the Data Protection Act 2018.

The Defendant has breached their statutory deadline to respond to my request  30 days within one month, has failed to make a full disclosure and this failure is continuing six months later.

The defendant's breach of their statutory duty and my inability to access my personal data which I need for an Employment  Tribunal case against the defendant,  has caused me serious issues and distress.

The claimant seeks damages for distress in the sum of £200.


Consider the edit I have provided.

Also has it actually been 6 months since they failed to respond?

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Thanks FruitSalad1010.

I will use your version and yes, it's been 6 months and 3 complaints to the useless ICO.

Every time I've asked for updates they've sent me a template response saying that they're dealing with my disclosure.

Then silence until I press them again.

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Hi, I'm filling the claim form online for breach of data protection.

I've done it all in my name, but I can't see any option to get my husband deal with this (he's got more time and he's a lot better organised than me).

How do I go about that?

 

Thanks

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You're the claimant so everything has to be done in your name.

 

Informally your husband can help you with stuff of course.

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Could you please look at this agenda and let me know where I've gone wrong and/or what you would add/subtract/amend?

Also, what's on point 2.1?

What do I put at 3.3 considering I'm only asking for a symbolic £1?

What about 4.2?

8.1 and 9.1???

And would you put anything at the end in the "any other matter" box?

 

Sorry for the many questions,  I truly appreciate your help!😀

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