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you dont need one.

you've done all you can,  time to await a court date and show pers remorse to a judge.

it was only a silly mistake , i cant see you losing, for want of a different word.

stop panicking IMHO.

 

dx

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Unless they are a specialist in the field (TfL Freedom pass cases, rather than ‘criminal law’ generalist solicitor v generalist solicitor), how is a solicitor going to help? What would they add?

 

I’m minded of a response I’ve seen to similar in the past (for a non-TfL specialist solicitor) of “you’d just be paying for their ‘learning curve’ “.

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scan the letter up

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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what charges , and how many uses, just the one?

and what dates must you do things by.

 

due to your continued confusion upon what to do ll the way from day one.

 

it would be far better you scan it up please.

 

dx

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Didn’t mention anything about uses: letter reads as follows 

 

SUMMONS TO COURT 

 

Date of issue 

 

you are summonsed to attend the court sitting at 

 

you must attend the court where and when required to do so 

 

date and time 

 

Location 

 

To answer the following: 

 

Enter a compulsory ticket area on the TfL Region railway network without a valid ticket 

 

Contrary to byelqw 17(17 and 23 TFL railway byelawa made under paragraph 26 of Schedule 11 to the Greater London Authority Act 1999 and confirmed under section 67 of the Transport Act 1962 

 

reason 

 

as you or your legal representative have requested an adjournment 

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Did you request an adjournment?

 

Far better we see this letter.

 

Dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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so who requested an adjournment ?

 

dx

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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probably because i told you to tick the box to attend to plead in person.

ok answers that.

 

can't see you not simply getting a small fine with no record, he could even order an OOC . but it a while a way yet , so keep occasionally pestering and on the day.

 

how much are they after i forget 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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On 19/11/2022 at 14:52, dx100uk said:

he could even order an OOC .


Magistrates (or single district judge) can’t “order” an administrative settlement. It isn’t within their sentencing powers.

They can ‘suggest’ it to the TOC, hinting that the alternative they would be minded for is an absolute discharge, but they can’t order it.

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no you know me and words, p'haps order is the wrong one.

there are i think 2 cases here of low level misuse i remember about...

one the judge stated he would fine the person what TfL were after + victims and stated no criminal record would be recorded if it was paid on the spot. it was the judge saw the receipt and was happy.

the other, though i believe the outcome was not reported on thread but by another method.

the judge had a little chat with the TfL prosecutor and they accepted OOC.

don't know who but that's what the member told us in private i'm sure.

good luck.

god this is only one mistaken human error misuse...not a habitual 700+ multi year user and a civil servant....😎

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Went to court and it back fired tbh. 


Apparently, if I ticked guilty and do not attend I would not have got a SJPN. 
 

my advice: when the initial letter comes just plead guilty and do not tick that you want to attend court. 
 

it doesn’t look good it gives you a criminal record- which I have now. 
 

good luck- my fine was 350 

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6 minutes ago, hoteljk said:

Apparently, if I ticked guilty and do not attend I would not have got a SJPN. 

who told you this?

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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